Cop abuse incident in Texas

[Linux23]

and wtf is that fat fuck in the shorts doing there? trying to protect the cop? he should have been reasoning with the cop to try and deescalate the situation. ridiculous. sorry if i see a cop use unnecessary force on a teen then i'm going to say something.

 

[Subyman]

and wtf is that fat fuck in the shorts doing there? trying to protect the cop? he should have been reasoning with the cop to try and deescalate the situation. ridiculous. sorry if i see a cop use unnecessary force on a teen then i'm going to say something.

I think that guy knew the cop was going ape shit and was trying to keep a buffer up to help the kids. A lot of the time he had his back to the children and was facing the cop, which means he was not afraid of the kids but wanted to keep an eye on the officer and keep himself between the children and cop. Hard to tell exactly, but I do think he helped it from getting worse.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

This incident absolutely disgusts me. How can we have this kind of law enforcement in the USA? If you were to show this video but say it was in Iran people would be up in arms at how poorly the people there are treated by the barbaric police.

Can we add a poll on what people think? American approve/disapprove, Non-Americans approve disapprove of the officers behavior?

Honestly? If ALL I SAW was the video that the media LOOOOVES showing (You know, the one where the officers arrive AFTER much of the incident has already occurred). Then I would be all over dumping on the officers. But after reading all the information of the incident, including all the other people present at the ACTUAL INCIDENT that caused the police needing to be called.... My answer is simply that I approve overall of the officers being there and enforcing. I do not approve of all of the actions performed by one officer, but I still approve of him being there and enforcing. Not everyone is perfect and can perform the EXACT perfect actions in the heat of the moment.

I know you folks LOOOVE to watch one video from one person from one angle, but that's not how it all goes down in life kiddos.

 

[doubledeluxe]

Honestly? If ALL I SAW was the video that the media LOOOOVES showing (You know, the one where the officers arrive AFTER much of the incident has already occurred). Then I would be all over dumping on the officers. But after reading all the information of the incident, including all the other people present at the ACTUAL INCIDENT that caused the police needing to be called.... My answer is simply that I approve overall of the officers being there and enforcing. I do not approve of all of the actions performed by one officer, but I still approve of him being there and enforcing. Not everyone is perfect and can perform the EXACT perfect actions in the heat of the moment.

I know you folks LOOOVE to watch one video from one person from one angle, but that's not how it all goes down in life kiddos.

There are multiple videos online. There is no excuse for the cops behavior. None.

Been to enough parties to know that rational cops do not act like this. This is not how they disperse a crowd. This is how they cause problems or kill someone.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yep, nothing like having a neighborhood graduation party and have 100 or more uninvited/unruly guests crash the party.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

There are multiple videos online. There is no excuse for the cops behavior. None.

Been to enough parties to know that rational cops do not act like this. This is not how they disperse a crowd. This is how they cause problems or kill someone.

What would you have done?

An Incident has occurred. A woman has been assaulted. Cars have been vandalized, etc... from this flash mob group. The Security of the neighborhood pool that was trying to disperse the crowd has been disobeyed/assaulted as well. What would you do walking on this scene of a shitload of hoodlums and juveniles Mr. Perfect? Please enlighten us on your skills of managing a mob scene of disobedient teens.

 

[doubledeluxe]

What would you have done?

An Incident has occurred. A woman has been assaulted. Cars have been vandalized, etc... from this flash mob group. The Security of the neighborhood pool that was trying to disperse the crowd has been disobeyed/assaulted as well. What would you do walking on this scene of a shitload of hoodlums and juveniles Mr. Perfect? Please enlighten us on your skills of managing a mob scene of disobedient teens.

Hoodlums? Why are they hoodlums?

You're telling me that the 14 year old girl is a hoodlum and part of a mob?

What fantasy world do you live in?

 

[Nebor]

Can we talk about how many of these kids lives were saved from drowning by keeping them away from the pool?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Hoodlums? Why are they hoodlums?

You're telling me that the 14 year old girl is a hoodlum and part of a mob?

What fantasy world do you live in?

She was part of the 100 plus mob that crashed the neighborhood graduation pool party. Are you really that ignorant to what occurred prior???

 

[doubledeluxe]

I've been to parties with 1000 people. With drugs. With Alcohol. Drunk drivers. People having sex in public. Fighting. Etc.

NEVER HAVE I SEEN THE COPS ACT LIKE THIS.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Hoodlums? Why are they hoodlums?

You're telling me that the 14 year old girl is a hoodlum and part of a mob?

What fantasy world do you live in?

.... Read it again... They ASSAULTED a woman with 3 kids. They threw beer bottles and shit at peoples cars and FORCED there way into a private pool. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure plenty came there innocently to jump in the pool. The point being, yes, there were definitely bad apples among the group.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I've been to parties with 1000 people. With drugs. With Alcohol. Drunk drivers. People having sex in public. Etc.

NEVER HAVE I SEEN THE COPS ACT LIKE THIS.

What does that have to do with people who were crashing a party they were not invited??? The police were called to remove the uninvited mob.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

.... Read it again... They ASSAULTED a woman with 3 kids. They threw beer bottles and shit at peoples cars and FORCED there way into a private pool. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure plenty came there innocently to jump in the pool. The point being, yes, there were definitely bad apples among the group.

According to one person who was there, she was one of the most obnoxious ones.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...pushing-teen-to-the-ground-friday-night.html/

“This is not a racist neighborhood,” said Benét Embry, a local radio personality who witnessed the incident. “There are a lot of good people in this community. It’s unfortunate that an event like this brings the spotlight.”

Embry, who is black, said he appreciated the police officers’ speedy response in calming a rowdy situation.

“That’s what they are supposed to do, protect us. I don’t know any other way he could have taken her down or established order,” he said.

Embry said that the teenagers started jumping over the fence into the party and causing a disturbance. He said the teenage girl seen in the video was talking back to Casebolt.

“She’s bringing more stress into an already volatile situation,” Embry said. “Out of a hundred kids, you probably had seven who are acting the fool. They totally spoiled it for everybody else.”

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

What does that have to do with people who were crashing a party they were not invited??? The police were called to remove the uninvited mob.

In a PRIVATE location. A beach is a public location (usually) which is usually where those types of parties occur.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Stupid kids doing stupid things then whining when cops get called. Yes, it seems the cop overreacted. But typical idiots that won't call out the stupid kids. Don't crash parties; don't beat people up; don't hassle cops when they tell you to leave.

New flash - you don't have the right to break the law with impunity. Grow up.

Manhandling the girl is questionable and with out a doubt pulling his weapon/pointing it at the teens was overboard.

Though just imagine had these 100+ youths not crashed a party and assaulted people, there would have been no need for the police.

 

[CitizenKain]

I've been to parties with 1000 people. With drugs. With Alcohol. Drunk drivers. People having sex in public. Fighting. Etc.

NEVER HAVE I SEEN THE COPS ACT LIKE THIS.

Was the crowd mostly white? There is your answer.

Shit, that girl is lucky that the pig didn't drag her behind his car, that seems to be a big Texas thing.

 

[Darwin333]

Maybe they were new to the scene. Just got out of doing nothing but parking tickets. Who would they be to stop him during an incident?

Not defending them, I'm just saying... before you go throwing all the officers into a ring of fire.

Based on how much the guy sucked balls at bringing the girl down, yeah, he looks improperly trained.

That's primarily the part that I'm talking about. After he "took down" the girl the first time she was sitting and NOT resisting anything. He could have cuffed her right there but then he picks the girl up onto her feet just so he can slam her down again with her ending in a position that could have been achieved by pushing her sideways while she was sitting.

I don't see how the initial "take down" was justified but whatever, I'll give that one to him. When he picks her up just to slam her down again, one of the fellow officers should have "protected and served" the community by removing that cop from the scene. He obviously couldn't handle the situation and at that point in time HE was the one that was endangering the public. Lets not forget that this is well after two other cops observed him going overboard once before when he drew his gun. We know that the officers in fact perceived it as overboard by their actions in the video (grabbing the officer shortly after he drew his gun).

 

[doubledeluxe]

Beach parties: Rangers show up, inform everyone that they can or cannot continue to party, give safety tips on avoiding being raped due to the sound of the breaks masking most sounds, and then put a cop or two on the road to monitor for drunk drivers.

House parties: A handful of cops show up to your front door. They put patrol cars on both sides of the road and monitor all exits for drunk drivers.

Field parties. Same as house parties but no door to go up to.

If a fight breaks out they deal with those people. They do not go after the whole crowd.

Generally speaking the crowd disperses on it's own in less than 20 minutes. I have never seen cops need to run around doing barrel rolls, tackling 14 year old girls, or pulling weapons.

Once went to a party where two guys pulled weapons. One went to prison. Cops dealt with them without even breaking up the party.

 

[Darwin333]

There are multiple videos online. There is no excuse for the cops behavior. None.

Been to enough parties to know that rational cops do not act like this. This is not how they disperse a crowd. This is how they cause problems or kill someone.

It's also how you escalate a situation and have people who were nonviolent and intended to stay nonviolent into doing violent shit. It only takes one or two people to start acting defensive (which is human instinct) to damn near incite a riot putting everyone at far greater risk.

I'm not arguing that the cops shouldn't have been called or that crimes had not taken place, I'm simply talking about the actions of that single officer. Actions that could have easily caused the situation to spiral WAY out of control.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

What would you have done?

An Incident has occurred. A woman has been assaulted. Cars have been vandalized, etc... from this flash mob group. The Security of the neighborhood pool that was trying to disperse the crowd has been disobeyed/assaulted as well. What would you do walking on this scene of a shitload of hoodlums and juveniles Mr. Perfect? Please enlighten us on your skills of managing a mob scene of disobedient teens.

I think step one is to properly identify the troublemakers so that you can assess who is a threat and who is not. If you need to pull a weapon on an unarmed teenage girl in a bikini you've failed right from the get go.

 

[doubledeluxe]

In a PRIVATE location. A beach is a public location (usually) which is usually where those types of parties occur.

Little known fact apparently but if you have a house party and the cops cannot see onto the property, then they cannot enter that property without your permission. I used to be able to have lots of giant parties this way.

However when things got out of control, which they did on a few occasions, I would ask the cops to come in and break things up. The most I ever had was 14 cops storm my property. They got everyone out, a little less than 700 people at the time, in less than 15 minutes. No insanity needed. Just because there had been a fight and people were throwing bottles everywhere, which was why I broke up the party, did not mean that they ran around chasing people and going nuts. No, they had no way to get the people fighting since they didn't know who they were, and simply broke up the party by telling everyone to leave. They then had cops stopping everyone to make sure they threw away their drugs and didn't drive drunk. They then asked me to clean up the mess since there were beer bottles everywhere. I didn't even get a ticket.

This is rational. Sure they could have come in with guns drawn, done some barrel rolls, tackled some minorities, cuffed 14 year olds, and burned my house down for good measure but no, they were able to break up the party in a calm and cool 15 minutes using some nifty crowd control techniques in the way they moved through my property as a unit and had one cop car on the loud speaker telling everyone to leave.

 

[CitizenKain]

Well if the local neighbor racists hadn't started shit, this wouldn't have happened.

Also this party was advertised on twitter, so this isn't a flash mob like the racists on here are screaming about.

 

[Nebor]

Well if the local neighbor racists hadn't started shit, this wouldn't have happened.

Also this party was advertised on twitter, so this isn't a flash mob like the racists on here are screaming about.

So it's a terminology issue? Fine, it wasn't a flash mob, it was a hoodlum hootenanny.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Uninvited you say?

One of the three people who apparently hosted the party had this to say:

Racist comments prompted McKinney pool party fight, host says

"A 19-year-old woman said racist comments at her McKinney pool party sparked the fight that led to a police confrontation caught on video that’s gone viral. The officer in the video has been placed on leave.

Tatyana Rhodes, who is black, told a photojournalist that another woman, who is white, told her to return to her public housing before slapping her in the face. Rhodes said she, her mother and sister live in the Craig Ranch subdivision and hosted the party there.

“She was saying things such as, ‘black F-er,’ and ‘That’s why you live in Section 8 homes,’” Rhodes said in a video posted to Youtube.

That woman and another woman “attacked me,” Rhodes said. Rhodes spoke in a video that was posted to YouTube by Elroy Johnson, who identifies himself on LinkedIn as social media manager for Jambalaya Magazine.

Rhodes’ mother, LaShana Burks, also says in the video that the party attendees were her daughters’ classmates.

The fight prompted calls to 911 that led to police responding to the pool party."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...ted-mckinney-pool-party-fight-host-says.html/

 

[Nebor]

Uninvited you say?

One of the three people who apparently hosted the party had this to say:

Racist comments prompted McKinney pool party fight, host says

"A 19-year-old woman said racist comments at her McKinney pool party sparked the fight that led to a police confrontation caught on video that’s gone viral. The officer in the video has been placed on leave.

Tatyana Rhodes, who is black, told a photojournalist that another woman, who is white, told her to return to her public housing before slapping her in the face. Rhodes said she, her mother and sister live in the Craig Ranch subdivision and hosted the party there.

“She was saying things such as, ‘black F-er,’ and ‘That’s why you live in Section 8 homes,’” Rhodes said in a video posted to Youtube.

That woman and another woman “attacked me,” Rhodes said. Rhodes spoke in a video that was posted to YouTube by Elroy Johnson, who identifies himself on LinkedIn as social media manager for Jambalaya Magazine.

Rhodes’ mother, LaShana Burks, also says in the video that the party attendees were her daughters’ classmates.

The fight prompted calls to 911 that led to police responding to the pool party."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...ted-mckinney-pool-party-fight-host-says.html/

Is it possible that there's a section 8 house in the Craig Ranch subdivision? I've heard of the government forcing section 8 housing into nice neighborhoods before.