Considering the warrant for the deceased was over not paying child support give the settlement money to his kid(s) and maybe this can have a happy ending.
Last I knew he had a child support warrant. Car was not stolen.
Considering the warrant for the deceased was over not paying child support give the settlement money to his kid(s) and maybe this can have a happy ending.
Considering the warrant for the deceased was over not paying child support give the settlement money to his kid(s) and maybe this can have a happy ending.
It seems like you jumped into a conversation without understanding the conversation. You may want to go back and reread from the beginning.
You are still attempting to massage the stats.
To begin, the so called bogus stats came from Fbi.gov or the FBI. They are the ones who categorized the stats and left the "unknown" portion. Attempting to make assumptions about what comprises the unknown category and then attempting to use it in some meaningful way to compare to the DOJ study actually defies logic. There are so many questions you couldn't possible have the answer to. Like, what were the demographic changes in that time period. ex. Did the Hispanic population increase and were responsible for more murders, did the Asian population increase and were they responsible for more murders? Also, how did the DOJ study account for the "unknown" portion in the FBI study. Were they initially counted, were they excluded? It seems like you've already settled on ur conclusion and are now trying to massage the stats to that conclusion.
Like I said you seem to have a preconceived notion on this subject which you are trying to massage the numbers to fit with. You should probably try this, If you have black friends(male), ask them how many unplanned police encounters they have had in their lives and compare that to your white friends in that same socio-economic circle.
That's true, the irony is now the children will actually get money. Well more like the wife will get the money, will the children see it, who knows.
So, again, how can a problem be fixed if the people most affected by that problem won't even admit that it's a problem??
the only problem here is ya'll are racists. and stats. them stats are hella racist too, probably because they were created by racists.
The stats are a result of past and present injustices. As I pointed out - the stats for unsolved murders of black males is much higher than for murders of white males. That's entirely due to endemic racism within the leadership in many cities. Those males aren't seen as having been as important to justify the time and expense of investigating their murders more thoroughly. I also think that exacerbates the problem. In some cities, community leaders go door to door, trying to get people to help. Apparently, they've broken down the "snitches get stitches." But, in other communities, they don't bother trying, and things like the snitches get stitches become more ingrained.the only problem here is ya'll are racists. and stats. them stats are hella racist too, probably because they were created by racists.
The stats are a result of past and present injustices. As I pointed out - the stats for unsolved murders of black males is much higher than for murders of white males. That's entirely due to endemic racism within the leadership in many cities. Those males aren't seen as having been as important to justify the time and expense of investigating their murders more thoroughly. I also think that exacerbates the problem. In some cities, community leaders go door to door, trying to get people to help. Apparently, they've broken down the "snitches get stitches." But, in other communities, they don't bother trying, and things like the snitches get stitches become more ingrained.
Anyway, I can't figure out why this news is such popular news. Clear cut murder - open and shut case, and nothing at all like the other recent widely covered incidents. He'll be found guilty; I'm not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. I.e, in this case, "they shot him in the back!" Yep. In the Ferguson case, "they shot him in the back!" Nope. And all the physical evidence, as well as credible witnesses corroborated the officer's story, making it a very justified shooting.
Anyway, I can't figure out why this news is such popular news. Clear cut murder - open and shut case, and nothing at all like the other recent widely covered incidents. He'll be found guilty; I'm not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. I.e, in this case, "they shot him in the back!" Yep. In the Ferguson case, "they shot him in the back!" Nope. And all the physical evidence, as well as credible witnesses corroborated the officer's story, making it a very justified shooting.
I understood your conversation with Don Vito quite well. Of the solved murders, black males committed murders at a far higher rate than white males according to Don Vito - and he has the stats to back that up. You're pointing out that because nearly 1/3 of murders aren't solved, that maybe whites are the ones getting away with murder, or maybe it's Hispanics, or maybe it's Asians. Thus, he's not necessarily correct. That is simply wishful thinking on your part, and a failure to face reality. The link I pointed out above answers the question for you. While nearly 1/3 of murders aren't solved, that article explains two things: one, where many of those unsolved murders are committed (hint, it's not in Asian neighborhoods) and two, why so many of them are unsolved (unfortunately, that's due to racist policies.) The percentage of murders of white men that go unsolved is far less than the percentage of murders of black men. One of the theories in the article I linked was that in gang areas, investigators see the black men not only as victims, but also as deserving it for likely also being violent men. Another theory is that they don't try as hard because when they do, it's too difficult to break the "snitches get stitches" culture. The article also points out that both are a result of poor leadership - I agree.
So, to summarize
Don Vito's Statistics: black males commit murders at a far higher rate than white males.
Your view:
That's not necessarily true, because nearly 1/3 of murders are unsolved.
Problem with your view: murders are unsolved in predominantly black neighborhoods at a higher rate.
Given the statistics of when murders are solved, the only thing that would make Don Vito's point false is if KKK members or Asians are sneaking into black neighborhoods, and getting away with nearly 100% of their murders. No one seems to be seeing or catching these KKK murderers or Asian murderers of black males.
So, again, how can a problem be fixed if the people most affected by that problem won't even admit that it's a problem??
First of all,
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/02/why-are-american-cops-so-bad-at-catching-killers
Please point out anything that allows you to infer that whites are getting away with murder at a higher rate than blacks - anything that would shift the statistics of known murders in one direction or another significantly.
I was being sarcastic btw, was not expecting a real reply
related to snitches get stitches:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/stop-snitchin/
Then why don't you explain it? Or, would you rather I put together a series of quotes to demonstrate how disingenuous you're being?Again, that is not what I said nor what the discussion was about. You should probably go through the conversation some more carefully.
You started out as the post being your understanding of the convo.
Now it's morphed into what you typed above. Unfortunately, reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
Anyway, I can't figure out why this news is such popular news. Clear cut murder - open and shut case, and nothing at all like the other recent widely covered incidents. He'll be found guilty; I'm not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. I.e, in this case, "they shot him in the back!" Yep. In the Ferguson case, "they shot him in the back!" Nope. And all the physical evidence, as well as credible witnesses corroborated the officer's story, making it a very justified shooting.
Then why don't you explain it?
Here, let me quote you and answer you:Btw, you should probably go tell the FBI that African Americans account for the majority of "unknown" offenders, because somehow you clearly know something they don't.
And, the FBI knows this. But, again, since you don't comprehend this, unless the case is solved, it's listed as "unknown."emperus said:African Americans account for the majority of "unknown" offenders
Here, let me quote you and answer you:
It's marked unknown, unless the case is solved. If there was a murder, and 10 witnesses say, "it was a black male, about 5 feet 10 inches, wearing a blue shirt and blue pants, and brown shoes." Unless the case is solved, it's still "unknown." The links I provided to you, had you bothered to read them (or maybe it's YOU who has the problem with reading comprehension) indicate that YES, And, the FBI knows this. But, again, since you don't comprehend this, unless the case is solved, it's listed as "unknown."
Anyway, I can't figure out why this news is such popular news. Clear cut murder - open and shut case, and nothing at all like the other recent widely covered incidents. He'll be found guilty; I'm not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. I.e, in this case, "they shot him in the back!" Yep. In the Ferguson case, "they shot him in the back!" Nope. And all the physical evidence, as well as credible witnesses corroborated the officer's story, making it a very justified shooting.
I can't speak for anyone else, but to me, the most remarkable and chilling thing about this incident is that the officer clearly thought he was going to get away with it. In front of another officer, in front of witnesses. It is absolutely horrifying if is any kind of suggestion of what other cops think they can get away with.
Again, you're so blinded by your bias in regards to this you haven't even taken a step back and looked at to what we were discussing. You can again go back and reread from the beginning and figure it out.
Now, I don't care if you believe that the 100% of the unknowns are African Americans, for the sake of the FBI study, they are just that unknowns. And to try to use the FBI study and somehow try to manipulate the unknowns one way or the other is just that massaging the stats.
I understood your conversation with Don Vito quite well. Of the solved murders, black males committed murders at a far higher rate than white males according to Don Vito - and he has the stats to back that up. You're pointing out that because nearly 1/3 of murders aren't solved, that maybe whites are the ones getting away with murder, or maybe it's Hispanics, or maybe it's Asians. Thus, he's not necessarily correct. That is simply wishful thinking on your part, and a failure to face reality. The link I pointed out above answers the question for you. While nearly 1/3 of murders aren't solved, that article explains two things: one, where many of those unsolved murders are committed (hint, it's not in Asian neighborhoods) and two, why so many of them are unsolved (unfortunately, that's due to racist policies.) The percentage of murders of white men that go unsolved is far less than the percentage of murders of black men. One of the theories in the article I linked was that in gang areas, investigators see the black men not only as victims, but also as deserving it for likely also being violent men. Another theory is that they don't try as hard because when they do, it's too difficult to break the "snitches get stitches" culture. The article also points out that both are a result of poor leadership - I agree.
So, to summarize
Don Vito's Statistics: black males commit murders at a far higher rate than white males.
Your view:
That's not necessarily true, because nearly 1/3 of murders are unsolved.
Problem with your view: murders are unsolved in predominantly black neighborhoods at a higher rate.
Given the statistics of when murders are solved, the only thing that would make Don Vito's point false is if KKK members or Asians are sneaking into black neighborhoods, and getting away with nearly 100% of their murders. No one seems to be seeing or catching these KKK murderers or Asian murderers of black males.
So, again, how can a problem be fixed if the people most affected by that problem won't even admit that it's a problem??