Cop charged with murder after shooting

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emperus

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It's not massaging the statistics. Apparently, you've never taken a course in statistics in your life. Don Vito made his point, and nothing you have said has refuted his point.

That may mean something if you actually understood what the point was.
 

emperus

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I can't speak for anyone else, but to me, the most remarkable and chilling thing about this incident is that the officer clearly thought he was going to get away with it. In front of another officer, in front of witnesses. It is absolutely horrifying if is any kind of suggestion of what other cops think they can get away with.

That is the clear takeaway for any rational person who saw the video. Again, Dr. Pizza obviously has his reasons for trying to diminish this incident.
 

DrPizza

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That is the clear takeaway for any rational person who saw the video. Again, Dr. Pizza obviously has his reasons for trying to diminish this incident.
wtf are you talking about. It's clearly a murder. There's no controversy about it being a murder. All the physical evidence points to murder. Even if the cops were stupid enough to think they could get away with it, the physical evidence that would come out during the autopsy - he was shot repeatedly in the back - would lead to murder charges.

People apparently think that without the video, the police would have gotten away with it, because, uh, Ferguson or something. I disagree. If there had been video at Ferguson, it wouldn't have made the news.
 

Gizmo j

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg3GrfR2wiQ

I believe that the cop should be jailed for murder but I don't hear anyone mention this.

If you download the video and watch it frame by frame on a media player, you can see that Walter grabs the cops tazer and pulls it out of his hands then drops it.

Its true that the cop went back to pick the tazer up and planted it near his body but I constantly hear that the cop "lied" about him going after his tazer.

Just thought it should be mentioned.
 

Carson Dyle

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People apparently think that without the video, the police would have gotten away with it, because, uh, Ferguson or something. I disagree. If there had been video at Ferguson, it wouldn't have made the news.

I think that without the video, he may very well have gotten away with it. Even with it, he still may.

At the very least, it would have taken months before more than a backpage news story surfaced. Cop kills man in struggle. Feared for his life, was threatened, fought for his weapon, etc. On administrative leave, blah, blah, blah. Happens just about every day now in this country. -Maybe- the investigation turns up something fishy in his story.
 

Ns1

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Its true that the cop went back to pick the tazer up and planted it near his body but I constantly hear that the cop "lied" about him going after his tazer.

Who said that?
 

Carson Dyle

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Ok, Officer Slager, let's do this again. We're going to keep practicing until it's perfect.

"After the foot chase, Mr. Scott refused to comply with my command to get on the ground. I deployed my taser and Mr. Scott reached for the taser and it was wrenched from my hand. At that point I thought Mr. Scott had the taser in his possession and I feared that it might be used against me, so I drew my service weapon. When Mr. Scott failed to heed my repeated commands to stop, I fired.

Once Mr. Scott, who was alive at the time, was securely in handcuffs and the second officer showed up on the scene, I saw that Mr. Scott did not have my taser, so I went back to the spot where we struggled and found the taser, then went back to where Mr. Scott lay. I don't recall either dropping the taser in that area nor picking it up again."

Very good. One more time...
 
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Svnla

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the only problem here is ya'll are racists. and stats. them stats are hella racist too, probably because they were created by racists.

and if you cite stats, you could be call a racist too.
 

DrPizza

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I think that without the video, he may very well have gotten away with it. Even with it, he still may.

At the very least, it would have taken months before more than a backpage news story surfaced. Cop kills man in struggle. Feared for his life, was threatened, fought for his weapon, etc. On administrative leave, blah, blah, blah. Happens just about every day now in this country. -Maybe- the investigation turns up something fishy in his story.
Oh please. Find even 10 cases where the victim was shot in the back.
 

Blackjack200

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Ok, Officer Slager, let's do this again. We're going to keep practicing until it's perfect.

"After the foot chase, Mr. Scott refused to comply with my command to get on the ground. I deployed my taser and Mr. Scott reached for the taser and it was wrenched from my hand. At that point I thought Mr. Scott had the taser in his possession and I feared that it might be used against me, so I drew my service weapon. When Mr. Scott failed to heed my repeated commands to stop, I fired.

Once Mr. Scott, who was alive at the time, was securely in handcuffs and the second officer showed up on the scene, I saw that Mr. Scott did not have my taser, so I went back to the spot where we struggled and found the taser, then went back to where Mr. Scott lay. I don't recall either dropping the taser in that area nor picking it up again."

Very good. One more time...

Mr. Scott moved aggressively toward the other officer, who was not in position to defend himself. I drew my service weapon and ordered Mr. Scott to the ground. At that point Mr. Scott continued to move aggressively toward the other officer and I fired to protect his life.

Goddamn, I bet that's what it would have been.
 

umbrella39

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Checkmate. You weren't citing any stats, just walking the same path your MO leads you down every time. Your reputation precedes you, always has, always will. Protest some more lady...
 
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Svnla

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Checkmate. You weren't citing any stats, just walking the same path your MO leads you down every time. Your reputation precedes you, always has, always will. Protest some more lady...

Ladies and gentlemen. Exhibit #2 (for my post #408).

Keep digging deeper while pulling the 'but...but..but...sooooooooooooo rrrrrrrracccccciiisssst" card. Never getting old. Same ole tired trick from the simple minded simpleton.
 
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himkhan

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I think the cop could have walked and caught up with him. Shooting and killing seems very excessive.
 

Brian Stirling

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This is why when I get pulled over by a cop I stay in the car and follow the instructions. No way I want to go stupid and fuck with the guy wearing the badge and holding the gun.

I just take my ticket hand it to my attorney and live another day.


Exactly, as a middle aged white guy not living in an urban environment I'm not high on the list of probable suspects in wrong doing but when I'm pulled over the first thing I do is put my wallet in my lap then leave both hands on the steering wheel. I don't want to have to reach anywhere for my wallet and I keep my hands on the wheel so the cop can see them. Failure to think this way could trigger the cop to do something stupid and I'd rather not be on the receiving end of his stupidity.

Sadly, in just about all these white cop black victim cases the victim did something I would not do. WTF do people act stupid and trigger there own demise? If Scott had stayed in his car and awaited the arrest that was probably going to happen for the open warrant and had he not resisted he would likely still be alive. Instead, he ran, was caught, some form of struggle took place and then the cop shot him in the back.

The end result is one man is dead and his family is devastated. At the same time a cop is looking at years or decades in prison.


Brian
 

Venix

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I think that without the video, he may very well have gotten away with it. Even with it, he still may.

Agreed. I don't think that a conviction is as guaranteed as people are hoping. The victim did flee and violently resist a lawful arrest, and I wouldn't be surprised if those actions help the defense secure an acquittal.

Consider the Ivory Webb case. The victim was lying on his stomach when Webb demanded that he stand up. The victim began standing and Webb shot him in the back three times, then filed a report claiming that the victim had "charged him." The incident was captured on video, and the recording plainly contradicted Webb's recollection of the event. He was still acquitted.
 

Druidx

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LOl empurus arguing with DVC? yeah..that's fair.
I wonder if once he is proven wrong AGAIN, will he cry about how racist the forum is, swearing that he will never post here again. The same way he did when it was obvious the he was wrong about the Zimmerman verdict. After all this is the same guy who argued for two weeks that a Target Grocery store wasn't a REAL grocery store, so he could claim Zimmerman was lying. This is the same person who stuck by his claim that Detective Serino said the case was racial even after Serino's FBI interview was posted, which said the exact opposite.
Some people never learn, or admit when they are wrong.
LMAO
 

Genx87

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Exactly, as a middle aged white guy not living in an urban environment I'm not high on the list of probable suspects in wrong doing but when I'm pulled over the first thing I do is put my wallet in my lap then leave both hands on the steering wheel. I don't want to have to reach anywhere for my wallet and I keep my hands on the wheel so the cop can see them. Failure to think this way could trigger the cop to do something stupid and I'd rather not be on the receiving end of his stupidity.

Sadly, in just about all these white cop black victim cases the victim did something I would not do. WTF do people act stupid and trigger there own demise? If Scott had stayed in his car and awaited the arrest that was probably going to happen for the open warrant and had he not resisted he would likely still be alive. Instead, he ran, was caught, some form of struggle took place and then the cop shot him in the back.

The end result is one man is dead and his family is devastated. At the same time a cop is looking at years or decades in prison.


Brian

Maybe if you were a black guy in an urban area where relations with cops is not so great your reactions would be different.

Second he would still be alive regardless of fleeing if the cop wasn't a psychopath.
 

rudeguy

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Maybe if you were a black guy in an urban area where relations with cops is not so great your reactions would be different.

Second he would still be alive regardless of fleeing if the cop wasn't a psychopath.

The cop had his ID. Wasn't like the guy was going to get away with anything.
 

LTC8K6

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg3GrfR2wiQ

I believe that the cop should be jailed for murder but I don't hear anyone mention this.

If you download the video and watch it frame by frame on a media player, you can see that Walter grabs the cops tazer and pulls it out of his hands then drops it.

Its true that the cop went back to pick the tazer up and planted it near his body but I constantly hear that the cop "lied" about him going after his tazer.

Just thought it should be mentioned.

The Taser is well behind Slager.

 
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