Cop charged with murder after shooting

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Lifer
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Based on a mountain of previous examples, yes, I can say with absolute confidence that I can very easily predict the outcome of the case had there not been video evidence.

Then I bow to your excellence and crystal ball.
/sarcasm
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Div


LOL. Diverting again I see. Go away now I'm finished with you.

Body Cams? I never mentioned them. I don't think Michael Slager had one on
of course, you cant address anything with actual substance. others are just mean and stupid.

fact still remains, LEO's literally get away with murder more than anyone with a shred of integrity cares to admit.

Public video, body cams, security cams, whatever.....thats the only way LEO's will get prosecuted.

But dont let that stop ya from believing in whatever you want, you know god exists because it feels good, you just "know"....compared with knowing LEO's wont suffer legal consequences without video footage....well, obvious isnt it.
 

Puffnstuff

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Then I bow to your excellence and crystal ball.
/sarcasm
Are you a gypsy?


of course, you cant address anything with actual substance. others are just mean and stupid.

fact still remains, LEO's literally get away with murder more than anyone with a shred of integrity cares to admit.

Public video, body cams, security cams, whatever.....thats the only way LEO's will get prosecuted.

But dont let that stop ya from believing in whatever you want, you know god exists because it feels good, you just "know"....compared with knowing LEO's wont suffer legal consequences without video footage....well, obvious isnt it.
Yepper.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Just following your lead. Anyway I'm done.
my lead? my original post was a valid question....which you didnt want to answer...and you stem on the word "know", and when challenged, you simply choose not to admit the similarity amd instead descend into pointless drivel basically consisting of childish retorts.

thats twice youve said your done. so fine, ill get off your imaginary lawn.
 

VRAMdemon

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Wow!, that video is disturbing..It is somehow lawful to subject a nonviolent person to a deadly game of Simon Says with an assault rifle aimed at him. That video clip looked like a Quentin Tarantino revenge slaughter flick. He couldn’t simply walk over to the guy and see if he had a weapon on him or have another cop come up the other stairway and cuff him from behind or have the guy turn slowly around to get cuffed. He has to emasculate the man and force him to perform tricks like a dog. One of the cops in the video was having trouble following instructions, and he didn't have a gun pointed at him. wtf!..That's the part that really gets me: civilians, with guns pointed at them, are are expected to act calm, cool, and collected at all times. Meanwhile, the ones who are supposedly trained for this are allowed to be scared shitless and nervous. Anyone other than police and they'd be locked up for shooting a man like that. As long as cops keep getting acquitted of murder, they will continue to needlessly kill people in that manner.
 

WaTaGuMp

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Wow!, that video is disturbing..It is somehow lawful to subject a nonviolent person to a deadly game of Simon Says with an assault rifle aimed at him. That video clip looked like a Quentin Tarantino revenge slaughter flick. He couldn’t simply walk over to the guy and see if he had a weapon on him or have another cop come up the other stairway and cuff him from behind or have the guy turn slowly around to get cuffed. He has to emasculate the man and force him to perform tricks like a dog. One of the cops in the video was having trouble following instructions, and he didn't have a gun pointed at him. wtf!..That's the part that really gets me: civilians, with guns pointed at them, are are expected to act calm, cool, and collected at all times. Meanwhile, the ones who are supposedly trained for this are allowed to be scared shitless and nervous. Anyone other than police and they'd be locked up for shooting a man like that. As long as cops keep getting acquitted of murder, they will continue to needlessly kill people in that manner.


The guy was on the ground with his hands locked behind his head, why they didn't approach and cuff him is beyond me. The jury should have been shown the video, it would have been a slam dunk for murder. The system and a lawyer, protected a guilty cop.
 
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VRAMdemon

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^^^ Yeah, hard to fathom. Of course the state sits in judgement of itself. Watching the victim crawl, helpless, crying, while being screamed at - apparently the cops are the only ones allowed to go home alive at the end of the day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/cleared-murder-fatally-shooting-unarmed-man-article-1.3685074

“He didn’t want to harm Mr. Shaver... The circumstances that night that were presented led him to conclude that he was in danger. Try to make a decision in one second, life or death. It’s pretty hard.”

You WERE in COMPLETE control of the circumstances. If you control the circumstances, you don't get to complain about them...
 

Sunburn74

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Honestly who are these people who end up on juries? It's almost as if they have absolutely no compassion for victims or cannot see that it could just as easily have been them in that situation.
 

Sunburn74

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Maybe all police shootings should go to military court instead or something. I just don't know what the solution is.
 

Genx87

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Maybe all police shootings should go to military court instead or something. I just don't know what the solution is.

Disbanding the cop unions would be a great start. They have erected a system that protects bad cops from consequences. And a special prosecutor when it is time to prosecute cops. Prosecutors are reluctant to go after the people they require to get convictions.
 

WaTaGuMp

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Watching Cops right now, the previous episode they got a call of a man with a shotgun. They show up, the gun is right there leaning against a tree. They have everyone there walk back to the sound of the cops voice with their hands behind their head and fingers linked. I have seen this procedure countless times on these shows, these are older shows, so how can the procedure of the cop making a guy crawl towards them be proper?
 
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The fact that the PD withheld the bodycam footage until after the verdict is appalling which I believe is an obstruction of justice. That cop clearly executed Daniel Shaver and this case needs to be reviewed by the state Supreme Court and if that doesn't do it then SCOTUS needs to get involved. The widow and kids should never have to worry about money for the rest of their lives.

Actually this case deserves its own thread.


That was pretty much an execution. I'm sorry that I watched it, should have simply read about the case.
 

Darwin333

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Then I bow to your excellence and crystal ball.
/sarcasm

It's not a crystal ball nor does it require excellence, at least not for me but I guess it does for you. It simply requires evaluating historical evidence, of which there is a pile of, and coming to a common sense conclusion. You'd have to be a complete fool to come to any other conclusion.

Hell there is a perfect example in this very thread of Philip Brailsford being found not guilty despite HAVING video of him shooting a scared shitless unarmed man trying his level best not to get shot.
 

Darwin333

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The fact that the PD withheld the bodycam footage until after the verdict is appalling which I believe is an obstruction of justice. That cop clearly executed Daniel Shaver and this case needs to be reviewed by the state Supreme Court and if that doesn't do it then SCOTUS needs to get involved. The widow and kids should never have to worry about money for the rest of their lives.

Actually this case deserves its own thread.


Out of curiousity what can SCOTUS do about this case, isn't he protected by double jeopardy? Is it still possible for the Feds to go after him for civil rights violations?
 

Sunburn74

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I'm sure there are other charges that can be drummed up. Whether the political will is there, who knows.
It just is so strange to me that this is the quality of policing we accept in this country.
Whatever happened to the minnesota case where the australian woman was shot by the "scared" cop?
 

Puffnstuff

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Out of curiousity what can SCOTUS do about this case, isn't he protected by double jeopardy? Is it still possible for the Feds to go after him for civil rights violations?
They have to power to overrule lower courts which is not a new trial but vacating and remanding a verdict. Watching him being executed by a raging cop make me sick inside knowing that so many people in power have tried to protect the cop.
 
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