Cop charged with murder after shooting

[TheSlamma]

It was a joke.

Maybe next time work on a better one and he might take it as one

 

[PricklyPete]

Maybe next time work on a better one and he might take it as one

Based on feedback, I certainly should stick to my day job.

 

[rudeguy]

Based on feedback, I certainly should stick to my day job.

 

[Attic]

I guess I was a little harsh on those defending the officer. Let me put it another way, you would be fine with yourself or your kid being killed by the police after doing something stupid and getting caught?

Has anyone defended the officer?

 

[rudeguy]

Has anyone defended the officer?

Mizzou should be here any time.

 

[emperus]

Interesting read. Now I have a better understanding of what the wording "It was during that scuffle that the officer fired his service weapon" could possibly mean. Like "shot in the back 15 feet away while slowly running".

Here's A News Report We'd Be Reading If Walter Scott's Killing Wasn't On Video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/walter-scott-shooting-without-video_n_7024404.html

 

[boomhower]

I can't imagine what was going through this guys head. Takes the taser, lethal force is justified. Guy drops taser and runs away that is off the table. Even if he is running away with the taser lethal force still isn't justified unless he catches him and the guy tries to use it. Short of Texas SC is about as close to the wild west as you can get law wise. I don't see this guy getting executed, proving predated murder is going to be hard at best. Pretty clear cut second degree though. His personal file is going to be crucial piece of the charging and coming civil suit to the department. If he had a history of use of force issues both he and the department are even more screwed.

That was my thought too after the WTF is this cop doing reaction. Perhaps he saw the other cop off camera and knew he would not let that happen. If South Carolina doesn't want an LA style riot, they damn well better not let this cretin off. They would do well to actually execute him because he would meet a harsher ending at the hands of inmates.

He'll spend the rest of his life in isolation. They won't put him in general pop, it's pretty clear what will happen to him and the prison would be sued for negligence. If they execute him that's one thing, putting him in a situation where he'll get shanked is another.

I was under the impression you never EVER shoot someone in the back if you plan on getting away with a good shoot. Rookie mistake.

Not always the case, there is an exception to every rule. The circumstances for shooting someone in the back and it being a good shoot are pretty slim. i.e. guy kills someone and is running towards a school with the gun. That would be a good shoot in the back. Pretty much they have to be an immediate threat to others if not stopped. But the circumstances are slim.

 

[WackyDan]

Except that story falls to pieces when the cop runs back to his taser to grab it.

No shit.

Tampering with evidence/crime scene.

If the guy had the taser he would be a threat to the cop, but not to the public... and he only had a warrant on him for child support... Certainly not a threat to the public.

If the cop had left the taser where it fell, he probably wouldn't be facing murder charges this fast, but would eventually get nailed for excessive force or man slaughter.

 

[sm625]

Not unexpectedly, the word solution does not appear in this thread. This is a big problem. The simplest solution is to completely decriminalize drugs. That will reduce the size and scope of law enforcement agencies since there will not be as high of a budgetary justification.

 

[emperus]

Not unexpectedly, the word solution does not appear in this thread. This is a big problem. The simplest solution is to completely decriminalize drugs. That will reduce the size and scope of law enforcement agencies since there will not be as high of a budgetary justification.

Easier solution is to require body and car cameras that are easily attainable by whoever asks for them. Also make it a fireable (without pension) offense for purposefully messing with them.

 

[Attic]

Interesting read.

How long before the video surfaced?, did any original stories about this encounter, written before the video was released, appear to draw anything near what your linked article is trying to pass off?


The cop was clearly attempting to deceive about what occurred and thankfully the video shut's that attempt down. But your linked article appears to be bait.

Real discussion needs to be had about whats going on with Police in America. They are not only killing black men with impunity (again this case the Cop is going down). I think this says something larger than "Racism" to be honest. If there is a bigger picture, missing it is going to be a big problem going forward.

 

[Attic]

Easier solution is to require body and car cameras that are easily attainable by whoever asks for them. Also make it a fireable (without pension) offense for purposefully messing with them.

In my opinion the answer is more rights for the people, less for the police. Cameras give indication of what occurred, but it doesn't address what I perceive as a power shift away from the people and to government agencies that is currently occurring at many levels. What would make this officer think it's at all ok to do what he did?, can we reasonably expect there are numerous other officers with a similar idea of their position in these encounters? Officers are highly protected and officer abuse has gone on for decades. Not all officers are bad, but the ones who are enjoy ridiculous priorities of rights over citizens.

Cameras do not fix the messed up legal and justice system that disproportionately hampers poor people and minorities who are the ones most likely to be taken advantage of by folks in position of power.

Fix needs to be made at a more foundation level IMO. Decriminalize stuff, tone down the police force in prudent ways. Stop attacking the people at every level (physically, financially, emotionally) while deceiving them about their rights and priorities in the eyes of the establishment.

Cliffs: Fixing "racism" does not fix the bigger problem here IMO, I hope we don't fall down the chasm of racism on this one.

 

[trenchfoot]

Makes me wonder how often attempted cover ups like this happen. The way the LEO tried to plant evidence seemed like it was just a matter of cold blooded common practice, keeping in mind that in any sane sense of the matter how traumatic it is to kill another person. Yet, he had the situational awareness and presence of mind to immediately try to cover up his actions after the put down.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Bet the police union pays for a fleet of lawyers for this dude.

Well, as much as it's obvious to me and most others that he is guilty, this is the US, and he deserves all the rights he is entitled too. He is still innocent (in a legal sense) until proven guilty in court.

So if the union is supposed to defend their members, they should do so in this case as well.

 

[Attic]

Do we know if this officer has been involved in other officer involved shootings that resulted in the death or injury of someone?

 

[Ns1]

I'm sure he regretted it almost instantly.

When do you think he started regretting his actions? Before he planted the evidence? After? Or maybe while he stood there while the dude was dying?


Nah, he probably didn't regret shit until the video came out.

 

[Sonikku]

Maybe he shouldn't have had kids if he couldn't afford to support them.

 

[BoberFett]

I was thinking what will get the officer off is the fact that it happened in the south.

Oh, so Eric Garner's killer is in prison now?

Shutup you douchebag.

Also, there's another thread on this.

 

[emperus]

How long before the video surfaced?, did any original stories about this encounter, written before the video was released, appear to draw anything near what your linked article is trying to pass off?


The cop was clearly attempting to deceive about what occurred and thankfully the video shut's that attempt down. But your linked article appears to be bait.

Real discussion needs to be had about whats going on with Police in America. They are not only killing black men with impunity (again this case the Cop is going down). I think this says something larger than "Racism" to be honest. If there is a bigger picture, missing it is going to be a big problem going forward.

What are your issues with the report in the link? What do you think seems out of the ordinary for one of these shooting?

 

[emperus]

Cliffs: Fixing "racism" does not fix the bigger problem here IMO, I hope we don't fall down the chasm of racism on this one.

Yes, Racism is not your problem. So, I can understand why you want to shift it away from Racism.

There are more fundamental problems with this issue. Race is one of them. And a start is requiring body cameras so we can have better discussion and an understanding of Police, citizen interactions. We don't even know how large the problem is because police lie. And it shouldn't be lost on you that the reason we are having more and more of these discussion is because of cameras. Or do you think that this is new behavior that happened overnight.

 

[MetalMat]

Gotta give the guy who shot that video some props for getting closer after the shooting. If I had evidence of a cop murdering someone that blatantly and then planting a weapon on him I'd be running away before he shot me too. Cop is willing to murder one person and try to cover it there's no reason for him not to murder a second person too.

Dude I was thinking the same thing. It's not like he was hiding either, he was just straight out in the open recording. That guy has some brass balls

 

[Blackjack200]

In my opinion the answer is more rights for the people, less for the police. Cameras give indication of what occurred, but it doesn't address what I perceive as a power shift away from the people and to government agencies that is currently occurring at many levels. What would make this officer think it's at all ok to do what he did?, can we reasonably expect there are numerous other officers with a similar idea of their position in these encounters? Officers are highly protected and officer abuse has gone on for decades. Not all officers are bad, but the ones who are enjoy ridiculous priorities of rights over citizens.

Cameras do not fix the messed up legal and justice system that disproportionately hampers poor people and minorities who are the ones most likely to be taken advantage of by folks in position of power.

Fix needs to be made at a more foundation level IMO. Decriminalize stuff, tone down the police force in prudent ways. Stop attacking the people at every level (physically, financially, emotionally) while deceiving them about their rights and priorities in the eyes of the establishment.

Cliffs: Fixing "racism" does not fix the bigger problem here IMO, I hope we don't fall down the chasm of racism on this one.

I agree, I have fucking had it with the police shit in this country. Whether it's shooting black people, SWAT tactics and MRAPs, or just the general nastiness in their behavior.

Liberalize drug (and other) laws, scale back police forces, weaken the unions, and try to return some sanity to the criminal justice system in this country.

 

[OutHouse]

Fox still not opening for comments. Come on let's hear what your loyal viewers think. You know all those people who support the #1 network in cable news.

your obsession with fox is unhealthy

 

[OutHouse]

unarmed individual murdered by cops for no reason. Sounds like they're playing the same game to me.

just stop posting.

 

[Attic]

What are your issues with the report in the link? What do you think seems out of the ordinary for one of these shooting?

As stated initially, i'm simply wondering if anything like what HuffPo claims would have happened, actually happened from any non fringe site, before the video surfaced.