As stated initially, i'm simply wondering if anything like what HuffPo claims would have happened, actually happened from any non fringe site, before the video surfaced.
How long before the video surfaced?, did any original stories about this encounter, written before the video was released, appear to draw anything near what your linked article is trying to pass off?
The cop was clearly attempting to deceive about what occurred and thankfully the video shut's that attempt down. But your linked article appears to be bait.
Real discussion needs to be had about whats going on with Police in America. They are not only killing black men with impunity (again this case the Cop is going down). I think this says something larger than "Racism" to be honest. If there is a bigger picture, missing it is going to be a big problem going forward.
Yea, because its isn't like there hasn't been a series of black people murdered by cops recently. Many of which ended with 0 repercussions for the pig who did the shooting.
I have a feeling if it wasn't for the video, you'd be cheering for the cop.
unarmed individual murdered by cops for no reason. Sounds like they're playing the same game to me.
Yes because in your mind 50-1 means "It happens on both sides"
You're am idiot of you think this is the same thing as Garner. He died from being fat and out of shape. Not from a gunshot wound. You really are a special kind of stupid if you think they're the same.
You're am idiot of you think this is the same thing as Garner. He died from being fat and out of shape. Not from a gunshot wound. You really are a special kind of stupid if you think they're the same.
Here is the local story before the video was released. Its about whats to be expected.
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150406/PC16/150409558/1005/lawyer-officer-reacted-to-threat
Here is the local story before the video was released. Its about whats to be expected.
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150406/PC16/150409558/1005/lawyer-officer-reacted-to-threat
He has been arrested about 10 times in his lifetime, mostly for failure to appear for court hearings and to pay child support.
The only indicator of violence in his past came with his first arrest in 1987 on an assault and battery charge.
The man, who has a history of violence and a long arrest record, died on the scene as a result of the encounter, despite officers performing CPR and delivering first aid, according to police reports.
Thanks.
This mirrors emperus link in many ways, though I think HuffPo takes some liberty when massaging available information unrelated to the video.
For instance, from your link describing the victim.
To the below hyperbole contained in the HuffPo piece dramatizing how the media would have spun the victim's history would a video not have been made availabe,
Dramatized by HuffPo for effect. Which is how most of the article came across to me. With all the folks walking around with a few screws loose on these issues i'm not a huge fan of HuffPo's adding fuel to these situations.
So why aren't both officers both charged with falsifying a report? One or both officers clearly lied in that report, and that is a crime isn't it?
Why isn't the 2nd officer getting charged?
Sounds like they caught him moving the taser after the shooting and placing it next to the victim.
Normally, evidentiary rules would not allow the officer to do such a thing.
If there wasn't a video, does anyone believe we'd be getting such a charge from the DA?
Here is the local story before the video was released. Its about whats to be expected.
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150406/PC16/150409558/1005/lawyer-officer-reacted-to-threat
Thanks.
This mirrors emperus link in many ways, though I think HuffPo takes some liberty when massaging available information unrelated to the video.
For instance, from your link describing the victim.
To the below hyperbole contained in the HuffPo piece dramatizing how the media would have spun the victim's history would a video not have been made availabe,
Dramatized by HuffPo for effect. The real article indicates limited violence from the Victim and downplays it as a factor, the spin from HuffPo tries to indicate the media said otherwise. Which is how most of the article came across to me, a bit fast and loose. With all the folks walking around with a few screws loose on these issues i'm not a huge fan of HuffPo's adding fuel to these situations.
Many more white people are killed by police than black people (according to the Center for Juvenile and Criminal Justice, 326 white people were killed by police with guns in 2012, versus 123 black people). There have certainly been a number of high-visibility instances of black suspects being killed by white police in recent years, but to me this has as much to do with the media's editorial choices as it does to do with the reality of the situation. I thought the killing of Kelly Thomas, for example, was as sad as anything I have heard of in years, but because he was white, it received little or no national media attention.
If he had a history of use of force issues both he and the department are even more screwed.
Of the two complaints in his file, one dealt with a resident’s allegation of unnecessary use of force.
Slager went to the man’s Delaware Avenue home in September 2013 to investigate a burglary. When the resident opened the door for Slager, the burglary victim yelled that he wasn’t the suspect, the documents stated.
The man also insisted that he wasn’t the perpetrator, but he later told internal investigators that Slager threatened to use a Taser against him if he didn’t come outside. When the man followed the order and stepped outside, he said Slager “Tased (him) for no reason and ... slammed him and dragged him.”
Isnt that wonderful? Without the video this murder would had been chalked up to another hero cop firing his weapon in self defense.
It will be an interesting case. From what I understand, if you take a cops TASER they will use lethal force on you to get it back. This case could define a clear line of when the lethal force specifically drops off after the TASER is dropped.
So basically, if someone steals your TASER, then runs away, are you legally justified in using lethal force? What if the person runs away, clearly, without the TASER? I could see them clearly saying NO not justified.
What if someone steals your gun, points it at you, then drops it and runs away, are you still justified in using lethal force as that person runs away? I think most of us would say YES, but a case like this might tell cops NO it isn't.
A more clear cut scenario would be, someone stabs you with a knife and says they want to kill you. You pull your gun, they drop the knife and run away. Are you justified in shooting the person before they get away? I would think most of us would say yes. However, a case like this depending on how they rule it, might find you guilty of murder.
Anyone who CCW's should watch this case very closely, not because of similar circumstances, but because a ruling on this case could very well be case-law for civilian self-defense.
if there was no video this would have turned completely different. it's like I'm watching a real episode of Chicago Blue.
Many more white people are killed by police than black people (according to the Center for Juvenile and Criminal Justice, 326 white people were killed by police with guns in 2012, versus 123 black people). There have certainly been a number of high-visibility instances of black suspects being killed by white police in recent years, but to me this has as much to do with the media's editorial choices as it does to do with the reality of the situation. I thought the killing of Kelly Thomas, for example, was as sad as anything I have heard of in years, but because he was white, it received little or no national media attention.
As to the case at hand, it looks bad for the officer. The video provides very little information about the context of the shooting, but he didn't do himself any favors by planting his Taser on the body of the suspect. We have not seen all the evidence by any means, but based on what we have seen this looks like murder or, at least, voluntary manslaughter.
The CDC's cause-of-death data, based on death certificates collected at the state level, also reveals a profound racial disparity among the victims of police shootings. Between 1968 and 2011, black people were between two to eight times more likely to die at the hands of law enforcement than whites. Annually, over those 40 years, a black person was on average 4.2 times as likely to get shot and killed by a cop than a white person. The disparity dropped to 2-to-1 between 2003 and 2009, lower than the 4-to-1 disparity shown in the BJS data over those same years. The CDC's database of emergency room records also shows similar racial disparities among those injured by police.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-ferguson-race-data
agreed. ref: eric garner