Cop kicks motorcyclist in chest

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Darwin333

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me as a motorcycle rider, that guy deserved it for riding like a asshole and riding like the public road is his personal private track. was waiting for him to hit that yellow paint on his high speed leans and wipe it.

Sweet, so we can get rid of those expensive ass courts and bullshit like due process. Cop should have just shot the fucker and be done with him!
 

Darwin333

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The cop said so himself. He said the guy complied with all of his instructions. That he ran over the bike due to "brake fade" and that he kicked the biker because "his leg muscles had already fired" by the time he realized he was complying.

Wow, when Nebor is against the cops you know they royally fucked up.
 

Darwin333

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How do you know this? He said so?

I think cop's actions were perfectly justifiable if there was reasonable reason to believe he was evading a pullover.

He was trying to evade a pullover when he................ pulled the fuck over?

How in the hell does anyone reach that conclusion?
 

Blanky

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Not much sympathy for the guy on the bike actually, unless the car chasing him was unmarked but also completely devoid of lights (making him think it was just a race).
 

Jimzz

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Not much sympathy for the guy on the bike actually, unless the car chasing him was unmarked but also completely devoid of lights (making him think it was just a race).


The car chasing him was a un-marked Camaro with only small lights on the lower dash and behind the grill. The cop also did not turn the siren on so at the speeds and attention being given to the road I do not think the motorcycle was fleeing.


The cop should be fired, yet he was promoted.
 

buckshot24

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The car chasing him was a un-marked Camaro with only small lights on the lower dash and behind the grill. The cop also did not turn the siren on so at the speeds and attention being given to the road I do not think the motorcycle was fleeing.
I agree here, I don't think he was fleeing either but if the cop had a reasonable belief that he was wouldn't that change the rules of engagement?
 

Darwin333

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Looked like he stopped at a light to me. After being chased for 2 or 3 minutes.

Well since even the cop says that he was complying with orders and that he didn't mean to hit him and blamed it on some bullshit "brake fade", which last I checked is his fault for not maintaining control of his vehicle, I'm going to disagree with you.
 

buckshot24

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Well since even the cop says that he was complying with orders and that he didn't mean to hit him and blamed it on some bullshit "brake fade", which last I checked is his fault for not maintaining control of his vehicle, I'm going to disagree with you.
What does that have to do with whether he stopped at a light or pulled over?
 

HumblePie

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Had the motorcycle actually been fleeing, the cop would never have caught him. Any cyclist that knows the roads and has pretty much open roads to drive top speeds on is going to leave any cop car in the dust. End of story on that.
 

HumblePie

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It looks that way to me as well but was there a reasonable belief that he was fleeing? I think there was.

Oh yah, but the truth of the matter that anyone with brains will know that the person on the bike could have left the cop in the dust had that been his intention. He was just coming to a stop at an intersection and didn't even know a cop had been following him the previous 3 minutes. Dashcam pretty much proves that. But I know a bunch of cops that get fired up at a chase like that.
 

HeXen

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Cops is like a brotherhood, they function no differently socially than the Union or any other such group. In fact most if not all here would function the same in such band of brothers social circles. Some brotherhoods are just tighter than others.
 

Darwin333

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I agree here, I don't think he was fleeing either but if the cop had a reasonable belief that he was wouldn't that change the rules of engagement?

Yet you just said:

Looked like he stopped at a light to me. After being chased for 2 or 3 minutes.


And I'm sorry but 2 or 3 minutes without using his siren while pursuing someone on a motorcycle who very obviously is focusing all of his attention forward in an unmarked car with very small lights does not a reasonable suspicion of fleeing make.
 

buckshot24

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Oh yah, but the truth of the matter that anyone with brains will know that the person on the bike could have left the cop in the dust had that been his intention. He was just coming to a stop at an intersection and didn't even know a cop had been following him the previous 3 minutes.
I completely agree, it looked to me like the cop thought otherwise.
 

buckshot24

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And I'm sorry but 2 or 3 minutes without using his siren while pursuing someone on a motorcycle who very obviously is focusing all of his attention forward in an unmarked car with very small lights does not a reasonable suspicion of fleeing make.
Looks like the cop thought otherwise. And you're right, I changed my mind, he probably wasn't fleeing but he definitely didn't pull over as was claimed. I can see how the cop thought he was fleeing while not agreeing with him.
 

HumblePie

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I will say that I had a ton of friends with sports bikes I used to hang with since we all worked together. Cops here basically don't chase you if yo are doing over 200 on a bike down the road. They may flip their lights for a second letting you know they see you, but that's about the extent of it.

Even the cop friends I know say they rarely ever catch bikers unless they have something they can radio ahead to in order to stop them. Part of the reason many bikers I know are as cocky as they are while driving on the road.
 

Nebor

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I will say that I had a ton of friends with sports bikes I used to hang with since we all worked together. Cops here basically don't chase you if yo are doing over 200 on a bike down the road. They may flip their lights for a second letting you know they see you, but that's about the extent of it.

Even the cop friends I know say they rarely ever catch bikers unless they have something they can radio ahead to in order to stop them. Part of the reason many bikers I know are as cocky as they are while driving on the road.

Over 200? Yeah ok.
 

realibrad

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Over 200? Yeah ok.

Bikes can do over 200 on a highway. I live in southern FL and I can tell you I have seen it many times where they blow by me at over 180. You can hear them coming behind you and you just hope they see you.

Here is a vid of some guys doing 180+mph on street bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVMOr7TIrc

http://www.fox4news.com/news/1631780-story

I can tell you I have seen many cops not chase bikes on Highway 95 here. They dont even try because they would never catch them, and it would be more dangerous to chase them and cause a crash.
 

HumblePie

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Bikes can do over 200 on a highway. I live in southern FL and I can tell you I have seen it many times where they blow by me at over 180. You can hear them coming behind you and you just hope they see you.

Here is a vid of some guys doing 180+mph on street bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVMOr7TIrc

http://www.fox4news.com/news/1631780-story

I can tell you I have seen many cops not chase bikes on Highway 95 here. They dont even try because they would never catch them, and it would be more dangerous to chase them and cause a crash.

Yah someone doesn't know the power and speed of good speed bikes. Straight highway at night with very little traffic is what my friends loved back in the day. Just blow down the highway hitting 200 or more and watching cops flip their lights on and off as they pass. Cops don't chase them nor even bother to try.
 

TheSlamma

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I love people who side with cops in situations like this, did you guys read about the NKVD and say.. you know, that sounds so awesome?
 

JulesMaximus

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Looked like he stopped at a light to me. After being chased for 2 or 3 minutes.

In all fairness, he said he didn't know this guy was behind him and trying to pull him over. Have you ever ridden a motorcycle? Granted, he was riding like an asshole, when you're riding like that you are focusing on what is in front of you, not what is behind you. Motorcycle mirrors are notoriously bad and it is difficult to make out what is behind you unless you are cruising along at 10mph and what is behind you is less than 20' behind you. Also, the faster you go the more wind noise you get. Even at 60mph it is a roar in your helmet which is why many riders wear ear plugs. Honestly, I find the motorcyclist's story quite plausible.
 

JulesMaximus

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Bikes can do over 200 on a highway. I live in southern FL and I can tell you I have seen it many times where they blow by me at over 180. You can hear them coming behind you and you just hope they see you.

Here is a vid of some guys doing 180+mph on street bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmVMOr7TIrc

http://www.fox4news.com/news/1631780-story

I can tell you I have seen many cops not chase bikes on Highway 95 here. They dont even try because they would never catch them, and it would be more dangerous to chase them and cause a crash.

No, they really can't. Bike speedos are notoriously inaccurate and I've seen it as bad at 9% error (reading faster than you are really going). So, at 200mph indicated that's as much as 18mph off (higher than you are actually going). A typical 1000cc sportbike should be able to hit 186mph, which is very fast, but not much more than that. It takes quite a bit more power to get tiny gains at that speed. You simply aren't going to see 200mph+ speeds even on a modern sportbike.
 
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