Cop kills a man, family is thinking about suing

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thraashman

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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You guys know that despite your natures, it is possible on occasion to be a human being. Whether or not it's a stupid lawsuit and the kid is at fault. A human life was still lost. Any person that wants to call themselves a human should care about all human life. The kid was stupid, he was at fault, and I fully understand the cop shooting him and would find no fault with his actions. However, the family lost someone important to them. They're sad and hurt and feel the need to blame someone because it's hard to speak ill of the dead, especially when they're close to you. I really don't understand how all of you can seem to not care at all about the fact that a human life was lost. I don't doubt the cop feels bad and that he wishes he'd never shot the kid even though he knows deep down it had to happen. Because odds are unlike all of y'all, that cop is a human being with human emotions.
 

vood0g

Golden Member
Mar 5, 2004
1,442
1
0
Originally posted by: thraashman
You guys know that despite your natures, it is possible on occasion to be a human being. Whether or not it's a stupid lawsuit and the kid is at fault. A human life was still lost. Any person that wants to call themselves a human should care about all human life. The kid was stupid, he was at fault, and I fully understand the cop shooting him and would find no fault with his actions. However, the family lost someone important to them. They're sad and hurt and feel the need to blame someone because it's hard to speak ill of the dead, especially when they're close to you. I really don't understand how all of you can seem to not care at all about the fact that a human life was lost. I don't doubt the cop feels bad and that he wishes he'd never shot the kid even though he knows deep down it had to happen. Because odds are unlike all of y'all, that cop is a human being with human emotions.

humanity can do with less pieces of sh!t in the world.
 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
8,403
1
0
Originally posted by: thraashman
You guys know that despite your natures, it is possible on occasion to be a human being. Whether or not it's a stupid lawsuit and the kid is at fault. A human life was still lost. Any person that wants to call themselves a human should care about all human life. The kid was stupid, he was at fault, and I fully understand the cop shooting him and would find no fault with his actions. However, the family lost someone important to them. They're sad and hurt and feel the need to blame someone because it's hard to speak ill of the dead, especially when they're close to you. I really don't understand how all of you can seem to not care at all about the fact that a human life was lost. I don't doubt the cop feels bad and that he wishes he'd never shot the kid even though he knows deep down it had to happen. Because odds are unlike all of y'all, that cop is a human being with human emotions.

I'm going to be a cold-hearted bastard for a moment here.

No, I don't care that this kid's life was lost. That's between him and a higher being at this point. Whatever redeeming qualities he might have possessed are grossly overshadowed by the fact that he tried to kill a cop.

Frankly, I'm glad he was removed from circulation before he learned how to accurately fire a weapon at someone.

That said, if I were his parents, I would certainly be mourning the loss of my son. But I would also be ashamed of his actions. You can mourn the loss and still be capable of recognizing that the only person here at fault was, in fact, your son. This really isn't any different (though is more severe) than some twat slipping on a sheet of ice right after it's snowed and suing someone because it's slippery outside. The parents' son shot at a cop. He shot back. Consequences, actions.

Cliffs:
1. My son shoots at a cop who was trying to arrest him for breaking the law. Cop shots back.
2. I mourn the loss of my son, though am ashamed of his actions
3. I may have a natural disdain for the cop, but recognize that it's not a rational one and is driven by my emotions. See #1.
 

OdiN

Banned
Mar 1, 2000
16,431
3
0
Originally posted by: thraashman
You guys know that despite your natures, it is possible on occasion to be a human being. Whether or not it's a stupid lawsuit and the kid is at fault. A human life was still lost. Any person that wants to call themselves a human should care about all human life. The kid was stupid, he was at fault, and I fully understand the cop shooting him and would find no fault with his actions. However, the family lost someone important to them. They're sad and hurt and feel the need to blame someone because it's hard to speak ill of the dead, especially when they're close to you. I really don't understand how all of you can seem to not care at all about the fact that a human life was lost. I don't doubt the cop feels bad and that he wishes he'd never shot the kid even though he knows deep down it had to happen. Because odds are unlike all of y'all, that cop is a human being with human emotions.

I would feel sad if there was an actual loss involved.

But this degenerate, sorry excuse for a human....that is no loss.

Police are to be respected. They put their lives in danger to protect the citizens in their community. Some are dicks, but I would say that most that are out doing patrols are not. It sucks when we get pulled over, but we usually deserve the ticket we get. Even if we don't, there are probably many many times where you did, but were not caught.

So maybe we don't agree with being ticketed - being an asshole to the cop is not the way to go about fixing it. The place to contest your ticket is the courtroom. The reason why cops can be dicks is probably because they have to deal with endless ammounts of assholes.

Respect the police and they will treat you well (yes...there are a few exceptions I'm sure). Maybe you will still be ticketed, but whatever.

Part of the problem in this case was most likely the parents and lack of parenting.
 

coomar

Banned
Apr 4, 2005
2,431
0
0
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Originally posted by: Sunbird
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?

I think State Troopers patrol alone (if I think to about all the movies with State Troopers in them)... that should be reviewed I think.

I dunno about other states, but in ohio they are alone. Most police are too.

thats just plain dumb, should be there for backup, both for themselves and for the other people around them

edt.
And even in Iceland a cop cant even pull you over if they are alone in the car


the man was intoxicated, he could have killed someone if he stayed on the road

this is one of those times where extreme actions by a cop is justified
 

DanTMWTMP

Lifer
Oct 7, 2001
15,907
13
81
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: Yossarian
fvck him. you pull a gun on a cop and you are asking to die.

exactly.

the parents have some nerve to pull some sort of lawsuit, even mentioning one. I hope no lawyer will represent them. Actually, I hope one does, forces them to spend a crapload of money for the lawyer, judge dismisses the case, and lawyer doesn't ask for refunds.

If a case does go through, then phok, they should lose, and the family should pay for all court fees.
 

Fingolfin269

Lifer
Feb 28, 2003
17,948
31
91
I just wanted to throw a ROFL out at the 'shoot to wound' libs. Thanks for the laugh guys. Maybe he should have shot the kid in his gun hand! OR, he could have shot the kid's GUN and it would have went flying off of the screen. Oh wait, that was a video of REAL stuff not something from '24'.


 

Stuxnet

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2005
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1
0
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I just wanted to throw a ROFL out at the 'shoot to wound' libs. Thanks for the laugh guys. Maybe he should have shot the kid in his gun hand! OR, he could have shot the kid's GUN and it would have went flying off of the screen. Oh wait, that was a video of REAL stuff not something from '24'.

Fsck that dude. What the cop SHOULD have done was stop the bullets Bullet-Time style so he didn't even have to shoot back. That would have been the most humane thing to do.

Plus the video would have kicked ass.
 

swimscubasteve

Senior member
Jun 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Ramma2
I don't know, it looked like he was on top and was nearly in control. Was a shot to the head justified? Why not shoulder/arm etc.

YOU DON'T SHOOT TO WOUND.

Like they say, if it's worth shooting at once, it worth emptying 2 magazines at.
 

FallenHero

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sunbird
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?

I think State Troopers patrol alone (if I think to about all the movies with State Troopers in them)... that should be reviewed I think.

You willing to pay extra taxes to partner up troopers?
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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616
126
for you morons who support the family and say this is a good lawsuit. im sure that if the trooper was your dad who you loved and some piece of sh*t tried to cap your dad, you would be singing a different tune.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ronstang
The gene pool has been cleansed. .
Well that's one less black guy you'll have to worry about trick or treating in your neighborhood there Tex.
 

Sunbird

Golden Member
Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: FallenHero


You willing to pay extra taxes to partner up troopers?

We dont have State Troopers in South Africa, but cops always double or triple or quadruple up cause way more cops than there are cars
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
16,129
2
0
The guy deserved to die.

If I was the cop and the suspect had a gun I wouldn't think twice about doing it.

I would think about my family.
 

FallenHero

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: Sunbird
Originally posted by: FallenHero


You willing to pay extra taxes to partner up troopers?

We dont have State Troopers in South Africa, but cops always double or triple or quadruple up cause way more cops than there are cars

In the states its a bit different. Wide areas are being covered and 1 person patrol cars are the norm, not the exception. The public wants a quick response and this is probably the only way to get them a quick response. If we double up patrol cars, that means we would have to do one of 2 things: 1) Hire twice as many police officers. 2) Cut the patrol fleet in half. Either way, the public would NOT be happy. Its either higher taxes or slower response time.
 

SarcasticDwarf

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Originally posted by: Sunbird
Originally posted by: Czar
definetly should go to court


but... shouldnt there be two officers in the car?

I think State Troopers patrol alone (if I think to about all the movies with State Troopers in them)... that should be reviewed I think.

I dunno about other states, but in ohio they are alone. Most police are too.

thats just plain dumb, should be there for backup, both for themselves and for the other people around them

edt.
And even in Iceland a cop cant even pull you over if they are alone in the car


ohhhh, ok. So we now need to near double to size of the US police force. Fantastic.
 

SarcasticDwarf

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: thraashman
You guys know that despite your natures, it is possible on occasion to be a human being. Whether or not it's a stupid lawsuit and the kid is at fault. A human life was still lost. Any person that wants to call themselves a human should care about all human life. The kid was stupid, he was at fault, and I fully understand the cop shooting him and would find no fault with his actions. However, the family lost someone important to them. They're sad and hurt and feel the need to blame someone because it's hard to speak ill of the dead, especially when they're close to you. I really don't understand how all of you can seem to not care at all about the fact that a human life was lost. I don't doubt the cop feels bad and that he wishes he'd never shot the kid even though he knows deep down it had to happen. Because odds are unlike all of y'all, that cop is a human being with human emotions.

I would feel sad if there was an actual loss involved.

But this degenerate, sorry excuse for a human....that is no loss.

Police are to be respected. They put their lives in danger to protect the citizens in their community. Some are dicks, but I would say that most that are out doing patrols are not. It sucks when we get pulled over, but we usually deserve the ticket we get. Even if we don't, there are probably many many times where you did, but were not caught.

So maybe we don't agree with being ticketed - being an asshole to the cop is not the way to go about fixing it. The place to contest your ticket is the courtroom. The reason why cops can be dicks is probably because they have to deal with endless ammounts of assholes.

Respect the police and they will treat you well (yes...there are a few exceptions I'm sure). Maybe you will still be ticketed, but whatever.

Part of the problem in this case was most likely the parents and lack of parenting.

You say "Police need to be respected". Members of the military put their lives on the line every second of the day, and often receive less respect than officers. What about mall security guards? Or any number of other professions? Sorry, but I think you are being overly idealistic.
 

iamtrout

Diamond Member
Nov 21, 2001
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If I were a cop I would be thrilled to get a gun pulled on me. What a great excuse to pump the dumb sh!t full of holes. If I were the cop in the vid I would have unloaded my whole entire magazine into the guy's melon, then gone off-camera to get my shotgun, and shottied the guy's head until it was nothing but pulp. Oh man... I need some pot roast.
 

FallenHero

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: thraashman
You guys know that despite your natures, it is possible on occasion to be a human being. Whether or not it's a stupid lawsuit and the kid is at fault. A human life was still lost. Any person that wants to call themselves a human should care about all human life. The kid was stupid, he was at fault, and I fully understand the cop shooting him and would find no fault with his actions. However, the family lost someone important to them. They're sad and hurt and feel the need to blame someone because it's hard to speak ill of the dead, especially when they're close to you. I really don't understand how all of you can seem to not care at all about the fact that a human life was lost. I don't doubt the cop feels bad and that he wishes he'd never shot the kid even though he knows deep down it had to happen. Because odds are unlike all of y'all, that cop is a human being with human emotions.

I would feel sad if there was an actual loss involved.

But this degenerate, sorry excuse for a human....that is no loss.

Police are to be respected. They put their lives in danger to protect the citizens in their community. Some are dicks, but I would say that most that are out doing patrols are not. It sucks when we get pulled over, but we usually deserve the ticket we get. Even if we don't, there are probably many many times where you did, but were not caught.

So maybe we don't agree with being ticketed - being an asshole to the cop is not the way to go about fixing it. The place to contest your ticket is the courtroom. The reason why cops can be dicks is probably because they have to deal with endless ammounts of assholes.

Respect the police and they will treat you well (yes...there are a few exceptions I'm sure). Maybe you will still be ticketed, but whatever.

Part of the problem in this case was most likely the parents and lack of parenting.

You say "Police need to be respected". Members of the military put their lives on the line every second of the day, and often receive less respect than officers. What about mall security guards? Or any number of other professions? Sorry, but I think you are being overly idealistic.

Ah yes, so because the military doesnt get a certain level of respect, officer should then in turn be subject to additional abuse from the public? Thats some good logic you got going there.
 
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