Not a retreating opponent. If the lady had retreated at any time, your buddy would have been charged too.
Exactly right.
I've seen a situation like this happen in real life. No one is going to get in a fight for a dumb bitch that started shit she couldn't handle. I saw a black girl go ballistic at a small bar in uptown Dallas. Her and some guy had ordered the same drink, the bartender made the drink, and the guy took it. She said it was her drink, he said he ordered first, she said, "Ain't you ever heard of ladies first motherfucker?" He said, "Where I'm from, ladies don't talk like that," and took a sip of his drink. She slapped the drink down out of his hand and slapped him across the face. He pushed her back, she jumped at him and scratched his neck and scalp, he pushed her back again, she jumped at him again and he caught her with a knee to the gut and a downward elbow strike to the face. She crumpled to the floor and didn't move for a good 5 seconds. Then she started shrieking, "he broke my nose! he broke my nose!" She was bleeding all over the place. The bouncers & cops arrive, the bartender tells them she started it, two of my buddies talked to the cops (they're both cops too) and 10 minutes later crazy bitch is on her way to the hospital under arrest and the dude is sitting back at the bar drinking free drinks for the rest of the night.
yes, Nebor is not relating the same situation as in the video which prompted the OP's gif.Not a retreating opponent. If the lady had retreated at any time, your buddy would have been charged too.
IMHO, both are jackasses.maybe.... :\
i just saw the gif though and felt rage.
ok... just watched the vid... i've seen it before. he is clearly harassing her and then he touches her first, possibly a push, on the shoulder. he's a jackass, confirmed.
That said, the cop and judge are going to feel some heat for this.
Not a retreating opponent. If the lady had retreated at any time, your buddy would have been charged too.
Agreed.you and i both, not knowing the exact details, it's not like the woman threw a drink in his face for no reason. i don't advocate the drink throwing, but getting wet does not equal the slam to the ground he dealt her. he's clearly a jackass.
Agreed.
I just think that it is a predictable outcome that she could have avoided.
I wasn't trying to draw a direct analogue, but instead was countering some people's views that it's never ok to hit a woman, despite how outrageous she may be acting.
I will translate for those afflicted with feminist affective disorder:wow... D:
he's clearly a jackass.
meh, not worth it, really.I will translate for those afflicted with feminist affective disorder:
if you can dish it out, you should be able to take it.
meh, not worth it, really.
this female wouldn't have thrown a drink in the asshole's face. I would have told him to fuck off though as he was harassing her. if he didn't leave and kept harassing, as he did, i would have to get someone to more sternly show him i wasn't going to put up with his shit any longer.
how's that for your feminist affective disorder???
if he didn't leave and kept harassing, as he did, i would have to get someone to more sternly show him i wasn't going to put up with his shit any longer.
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way to deal with life. do just what the teenagers would do. if someone is harrassing, leave or call the cops. people who can't handle some words have never learned how to be mature.
oes noes..verbal assualts, they hurt, they hurt!!! i must attack physically or get someone who can :thumbsup:
He wouldn't be so tough then. :|"lol weak woman, go hide behind a brawny man, hide so far behind, you're in the kitchen!"
It's lose-lose for women. Your way would be nice, have a 6'4" 250 guy walk over and "kindly" ask the guy to stop being a douche. Hopefully the guy would still feel tough so the party could have some good entertainment.
are you an asshole or just playing one here?if he didn't leave and kept harassing, as he did, i would have to get someone to more sternly show him i wasn't going to put up with his shit any longer.
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way to deal with life. do just what the teenagers would do. if someone is harrassing, leave or call the cops. people who can't handle some words have never learned how to be mature.
oes noes..verbal assualts, they hurt, they hurt!!! i must attack physically or get someone who can :thumbsup:
sometimes i wonder why i even respond. i would get security or the like if someone kept harassing me. i can take it, but only so much.
frig off for even thinking i should just keep taking it. i would NOT try to fight the guy off myself.
lolmeh, not worth it, really.
this female wouldn't have thrown a drink in the asshole's face. I would have told him to fuck off though as he was harassing her. if he didn't leave and kept harassing, as he did, i would have to get someone to more sternly show him i wasn't going to put up with his shit any longer.
how's that for your feminist affective disorder???
are you an asshole or just playing one here?
sometimes i wonder why i even respond. i would get security or the like if someone kept harassing me. i can take it, but only so much.
frig off for even thinking i should just keep taking it. i would NOT try to fight the guy off myself.
Although it is hard, the most appropriate behavior is to deescalate the matter. Gather some friends and remove yourself from the situation. Alternately, if you involve friends, for example sitting at a table or bar. It will be difficult for the other party to continue harrassing you, without harrassing others if they must go through others to get to you.
My technique is always to get between the offender and any female in my party. Usually, these assholes will be unwilling to bother me to get to her. If they do then they can expect a measured but decisive action to terminate the situation. Verbal harassement can be easily ignored, as I have rarely heard anything intelligent or poinent out of the mouth of an intoxicated individual.
Also, expect that I will restrain anyone in my party that intends to initiate a physical altercation. Lovingly and respectfully but I will prevent such actions if I am present.
Im sure thats exactly as it went down, with no attitude at all from the guy.
Oh, I forgot AT is anti cops. Silly me.
Im sure thats exactly as it went down, with no attitude at all from the guy.
Oh, I forgot AT is anti cops. Silly me.
The thing that I don't understand is, lets say that it was his beer and he was therefore committing a crime. What motivated the officer to be so aggressive. I would think that even if the victim was mouthy, something had to tick this officer off enough to take the guy down. This is one of those stories that has to have more to it. Is this just a bad cop. Did he just find out that hooker he took a feebie from had the clap? Did he know the victim? Is the victim a known dirtbag? Does the judge know this guy? Something just doesnt smell right here.
Working in the ER, I have many friends that are police officers. I often say that they show amazing restraint. Much more than I am capable of. I am sure that many lose it occ. Not that it is right but I can see how it would be difficult not to.Also you get used to people being dicks to you fast as a cop. They're smart asses, and they say horrible, nasty things. If you can't handle it, you shouldn't be a cop.
This PDF has some additional information.
It's pretty damning stuff. His leg was fractured, yet he was denied medical attention for almost a day. That's abhorrent even if the arrest was legitimate.
Artis was not armed with or in possession of a deadly weapon; he was, however, in legal and actual possession of a taco, which Artis did not wield in any threatening manner
Without either warning or being told he was under arrest, Rollins grabbed Artis by his
still taco-laden arm, and spun Artis around with great force, which pivoted Artis on his left leg
and sent the hapless taco flying.