Cop Tasers a 100lb Girl who became brain dead as a result

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Lifer
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A Florida police officer, 267-pound Trooper Daniel Cole, was recently cleared of any wrongdoing by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

That's the issue. Complete impunity.
 

shady28

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OP, what is it with you and all these anti-cop threads? You do realize that corruption exists in every vocation out there? OK, we get it. There are bad cops out there. However, the constant posting of every bad cop news bit unfairly demonizes policemen. You grossly misrepresent the ratio of good vs bad, and by doing this, you are being dishonest.

I suppose I should give you a break though b/c as I think about it, most threads are about the negative that one political side does as a means to highlight the vast moral and intellectual superiority of belonging to the other party.

Actually I like the fact someone keeps this front and center on a regular basis. The vast majority of these cases, and the trend they represent, gets far too little coverage in the mass media.

What's particularly disturbing is the pattern that makes it apparent there is collusion between police, the DA, judges, and the police unions.

Why would you want it suppressed?
 

SNC

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Why is it that when a person is reported to be a victim, they are a girl or a boy? Most people stop thinking of a person as a boy or girl when they hit the teen years, at the 20+ mark they are considered a man or woman. There was no "girl" tasered, it was a full grown woman who SHOULD know better. Now should the cop have tased her in the first place, while technically he probably should not have, I really dont give a shit. If she is that stupid to attempt to run after being cuffed......... But of course she was not at fault for anything, she was just a little girl.

And a capital "G" girl no less.
 
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Naeeldar

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Why is it that when a person is reported to be a victim, they are a girl or a boy? Most people stop thinking of a person as a boy or girl when they hit the teen years, at the 20+ mark they are considered a man or woman. There was no "girl" tasered, it was a full grown woman who SHOULD know better. Now should the cop have tased her in the first place, while technically he probably should not have, I really dont give a shit. If she is that stupid to attempt to run after being cuffed......... But of course she was not at fault for anything, she was just a little girl.

And a capital "G" girl no less.

This. It sucks with what happened for her but why is it ok for people to run from the cops? It's funny how in this day of age it's become OK to do stupid things - i.e. run from the cops and yet somehow nobody wants to own up that doing something stupid could have severe repercussions.

What people are basically saying is that if a 15 year old gets shot breaking into somebody's house it's the owners fault for "shooting a kid" rather than the kid's fault for doing something incredibly risky.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Only on ATOT could someone say something factually true only to be called an idiot for it.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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This. It sucks with what happened for her but why is it ok for people to run from the cops? It's funny how in this day of age it's become OK to do stupid things - i.e. run from the cops and yet somehow nobody wants to own up that doing something stupid could have severe repercussions.

What people are basically saying is that if a 15 year old gets shot breaking into somebody's house it's the owners fault for "shooting a kid" rather than the kid's fault for doing something incredibly risky.

Logic fail.

Just because it isn't OK to run from the police doesn't mean it is OK to taser (or shoot) people in the back for no real reason.

To make it simple for you, two wrongs don't make a right. It isn't that complicated an idea.
 

piasabird

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If he would have hand-cuffed her people would also be complaining. I guess he should have used a billy club and beat her to death if she didn't stop. She was running from the cops. Probably some drug addict who would have sliced her momma with a razor to get high. So he could have run after her and tackled her on the cement? Maybe only a few ribs would be broken. All these criminals think they can just run away from cops. By chasing after them cops often get hurt. At this point she might also have had some kind of concealed weapon also. Why should the cops be nice when you run away? If the person runs, they should shoot first and ask questions later.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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If he would have hand-cuffed her people would also be complaining. I guess he should have used a billy club and beat her to death if she didn't stop. She was running from the cops. Probably some drug addict who would have sliced her momma with a razor to get high. So he could have run after her and tackled her on the cement? Maybe only a few ribs would be broken. All these criminals think they can just run away from cops. By chasing after them cops often get hurt. At this point she might also have had some kind of concealed weapon also. Why should the cops be nice when you run away? If the person runs, they should shoot first and ask questions later.

You do know that she was handcuffed already right?
 

Jaskalas

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If the person runs, they should shoot first and ask questions later.

If a person isn't in a right state of mind, if they get scared or panic, they should die? You want them murdered? This is a line you should not cross.

No one who applauds this death is kin nor countryman of mine. We deserve better.
 

mizzou

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“Fleeing cannot be the sole reason for the deployment” of the taser.

how about Fleeing AND committing or while committing a crime?
 

mizzou

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Tasers are often abused and used as deadly force. Just like when they tase someone over and over again, until they die on the spot. They are too cowardly to shoot a cuffed suspect, at least most of the time, so they just repeatedly tase and electrocute them to death, instead.

It's high time the supreme court weighed in on tasers and finally made them all illegal to use as lethal weapons of torture and death the way many fat and lazy cops are abusing them.

 

mizzou

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Oh and just to add to the ignorance of some of these comments,

"Non-Lethal" is a myth.

There only exists "Less-Lethal" and "Lethal"

a TASER is "Less-Lethal"
A beanbag round is "Less-Lethal"
A can of pepper spray to the face is "Less-Lethal"
A bullet is "Lethal"
A baton strike to the thigh/forearm is "Less-Lethal"
A baton strike to the neck/head is "Lethal"

Fuck, even tackling someone can cause braindeath. Tripping on your own feet can cause you to die.

I Absolutely, one hundred percent, believe that actions by police officers should be reviewed for justification. Once reviewed, if there are changes that need to be made to policy, by all means it should be done.

But to sit there in your armchair and say, "HE MURDERED HER WITH VENGEANCE! D: " is kind of outrageous...

I guess, it's not physically possible for everyone to have a calm position on things.

But if we didn't have people like OP, then perhaps things would fall back to ye days of old where police and criminals could get away with crazy violence where physical evidence wasn't available or didn't exist.

Look...did someone fuck up by not restraining her properly and monitoring her? Yes. Who knows why, maybe its because shes 100lb or the 15th time they've arrested her, and someone got sloppy.

Then...let's also look at where this happened. Florida is crazy town where crazy things happen. We get to all look at Florida from our barriers of sanity and think...how on earth could something like that happen here?
 

Naeeldar

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Logic fail.

Just because it isn't OK to run from the police doesn't mean it is OK to taser (or shoot) people in the back for no real reason.

To make it simple for you, two wrongs don't make a right. It isn't that complicated an idea.

Doing something dangerous invites consequences was my only point. And yes the girl holds some responsibility here unlike what many are saying.

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree on the taser being a huge issue. I don't know enough about how dangerous they truly are - my understanding for the most part was that they are usually only dangerous to people with heart conditions.

That said I hold the girl at fault here for her actions. She'd be alive if she didn't run and didn't invite/create a dangerous situation.
 

SlickSnake

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Seriously, you are screwed in the head. Facts on taser deaths have been quoted before, hundreds of times now. Your stupid overuse of this picture just confirms your troll status here for all to see, yet again.
 

piasabird

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Cops deserve better. I am not going to say criminals have more rights than the police. I am nut kissing a criminal's ass.
 
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mizzou

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Seriously, you are screwed in the head. Facts on taser deaths have been quoted before, hundreds of times now. Your stupid overuse of this picture just confirms your troll status here for all to see, yet again.

Go find me 5 cases...or even 1 where a TASER was found to be the direct cause of the death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues#Manufacturer.27s_risk_acknowledgments


Until then, you can quote whatever Facebook unsnoped crap and then regurgitate it on these forums.

If you can find one, I will eat the biggest amount of crow and take a self-imposed vacation
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Doing something dangerous invites consequences was my only point. And yes the girl holds some responsibility here unlike what many are saying.

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree on the taser being a huge issue. I don't know enough about how dangerous they truly are - my understanding for the most part was that they are usually only dangerous to people with heart conditions.

That said I hold the girl at fault here for her actions. She'd be alive if she didn't run and didn't invite/create a dangerous situation.

again, she made a mistake....but that doesn't excuse mistakes from the police.
 
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