Yeah, those cops will be sitting a desk for a while. Guess that mace, or a taser, wouldn't work on a dog, huh??
It jumped at the cops just before they shot it, it's right there in the video. I wasn't being aggressive prior to that though.That was not an agressive dog.Police fail!Terrorist success!
Free men don't require a reason for doing what they're doing. He had every right to be there, and if he said something to the cops, he had the right to that also.
Pisses me off when people blame the victim for "antagonizing cops". Cops are fuckin' employees of the citizenry, not a lion on the savanna, or a gator in a swamp you need to steer clear of, and avoid "antagonizing". If they can't control themselves, and enforce the law; most important of which is the Constitution, they should be stocking shelves at Walmart, or something else suitable to their temperament, and away from public interaction.
My issue with this whole thing is why this guy puts himself in this situation. Does he need to be there...does he need to be involved...does he NEED to tape and make himself part of the situation?
True, but that's a little "over the top" if you know what I mean..
It jumped at the cops just before they shot it, it's right there in the video. I wasn't being aggressive prior to that though.
This is about a half second before the gun goes off. The dog is barking/growling as it jumps towards the cop.
You've got my quote in your sig but I wouldn't have banned anyone for the comments here.Yet I don't see anyone calling out the members saying the cops should be burned alive, and their families killed. There is some sick motherfuckers on this board that need the ban hammer.
You've got my quote in your sig but I wouldn't have banned anyone for the comments here.
The dog was so aggressive, it first approaches the officers by sniffing the object just dropped in their proximity. Hello? Then it trotted over to an officer to sniff him, before backing off. The officer came at the dog with gun drawn. Obviously the dog perceives him as a threat and lunges. Really bad police work all-around here.
I guess this is what happens when you get the pussification of the police force. Officers accustomed to driving in their squad cars and eating donuts don't know how to handle a dog. I'd say the majority of current officers are too fat and old to serve on the force, and should be fired with their pensions revoked.
Most old and fat cops I know have better cardio health than the passive aggressive nerds sitting in their mother's basement. I'm not a cop, but I'd venture an educated guess that dog handling isn't a big topic at the police academy.
Most old and fat cops I know have better cardio health than the passive aggressive nerds sitting in their mother's basement. I'm not a cop, but I'd venture an educated guess that dog handling isn't a big topic at the police academy.
Even if you know you are in the right and something shitty happens yes you are still right...but at what cost? What did this guy gain? A shot animal? A lawsuit?
This situation sucks but really lets break things down instead of getting emotional.
1. Guy was detained. I didn't see anything that was cause for it and you can probably successfully argue he shouldn't have, but he was.
2. Guy does not secure his dog in the car when he sees the cops are going to talk to him (at least, probably detain). The windows were open enough for the animal to get out. You don't have to close the windows all the way to secured the animal. This is his fault no matter how you slice it and no matter what your feelings on 1 are.
3. Animal clearly threatens the police as it is being defensive towards it's owner. Many, many, many dogs will do this. The police have to do something about a large animal being aggressive. I think shooting it was extreme but not outside what I'd allow the police to do. They could have possibly tased it, but then what? Animal control isn't there to secure it. Shortly after the dog gets up from the tasing, it'll still be aggressive...
While you may disagree what the cops did to the animal (it's terribly sad) that doesn't mean it wasn't within what we'd allow them to do. They are allowed to use deadly force when they are threatened. If I charge a cop with a baseball bat, guess what happens to me? x.x
Blame the police for detaining the guy, I can't hear shit so who knows what provoked them. Blame the owner for not securing the dog. Seems like both parties are at fault here.
Again I agree with the 'RULES / protocol / constitution' argument...and am I in NO way trying to defend either party in this situation.
Regardless of the above link...if someone else makes a poor choice and puts themselves in a situation voluntary...they have some ownership in my opinion.
Even if you know you are in the right and something shitty happens yes you are still right...but at what cost? What did this guy gain? A shot animal? A lawsuit?
Playing Monday morning QB, I bet if you asked that person if he would do it all over again I would say the answer would be no because his actions are not going to change anything and his net gain would be nothing...instead his action while possible noble resulted in the shooting of his animal and he was subjected to a shitty act (being restrained by the cops).
The world is a shitty place sometimes and if you put yourself in situations you have to be ready to deal with the outcomes...regardless if what happens is right or wrong...you still are the benefactor of a bad deal and IF he had no need to do what he was doing I don't think he should have been involved.
Again I hope that I am not making a vague assessment that would mislead you...just that bad shit happens all the time and if you don't want it to happen to you don't get involved in a situation that you personally don't need to be in.
It looked like he said something to 2 policemen standing on the sidewalk which started them walking towards him. What was it that he said which got him arrested?