Cops Beat Peaceful Tibetan Protesters....

vhx

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d86_1206479478

I didn't see this on here so I thought I would post it.

Video footage of New York cops clubbing and arresting peaceful Tibetan protesters who were merely walking down the street has gone relatively ignored beyond Youtube.

While stories emerge out of China every day of police beating and killing Tibetan protestors in the streets, the same sort of behavior by cops in America tells its own story.

The footage was shot at a free Tibet peaceful assembly in New York on the 14th of March.

It shows the protestors holding flags and signs and peacefully walking down the street towards the UN building in the Turtle Bay neighborhood only to be accosted by police officers with batons.

One officer identified as "Delgado" is seen in the video pushing people as the group crosses the street.
Another officer, identified as "Serano" is caught threatening to kill two protesters as the cameraman passes. He later admits to the threat and apologizes for it.

As the group nears the UN building, cop cars and vans screech onto the sidewalks, cops pour out and begin to beat the protesters with clubs as UN security guards observe without becoming involved.

A non uniformed officer, who seems to be directing the entire operation, then orders the cameraman to step back and move away.

"Look at these cops, clubbing people in front of the UN, unbelievable, protesting to free Tibet, cops clubbing people in their legs on the sidewalk, in front of the UN in America, unbelievable, this is not China." the American cameraman announces in disbelief.

The officer identified as Serano then forces the cameraman away from the melee, telling him to shut the camera off and that he will not talk to him because he may be a reporter.

Several officers then follow the cameraman asking him about his recording of the incident.
Seems kind of extreme for cops to be telling people that they are going to kill them, just for protesting. I thought it was ironic that this was all happening near the UN. When they are cuffing a few protesters, one cop starts swinging their club around into the other protesters? And later one walks over to a guy holding a flag and just starts to beat him down. Anyone think if a protest gets big enough and the cops start a fight that the people are going to begin to fight back?

All these excessive force cop stories and videos that have been floating around lately is definitely hurting the image of cops.
 

Braznor

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Hey, cops deserve being authoritarian too! What's one without his powertrip?
 

palehorse

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Unfortunately, it's very difficult to figure out exactly what started what, but I sincerely hope that every cop who should go to jail ends up there.

It's definitely sad and disgusting to see cops so damn eager to swing a club...
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: vhx
All these excessive force cop stories and videos that have been floating around lately is definitely hurting the image of cops.

That's why China controls the media. In this case, all they have to do is defer to the Patriot Act and you?ll see it?s already illegal to talk about what they do ? the only missing link is they haven?t declared themselves federal agents.

Then again, local police seem to be failing in their civil standards these days. Washington will soon need to Federalize them to ensure quality control for the protection of the collective. Just like Federal control over financial institutions.
 

jpeyton

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Disturbing footage.
 

Drift3r

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LoL - They were protesting the "brutal tactics of China" in Tibet only to get beat down by US cops. Oh the irony. NYPD's finest at work.
 

ericlp

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Well, this again is a slippery slope! But cops in China have a lot more control then the ones here in the USA. Obviously these protesters knew they were being filmed so I am sure that they did what they could to push the issue...

I don't believe in Violence at all. Tho, I think if a police offers (no matter what the reason) tells you to stop doing something you should respect and obey... Since that is what he/she is trained to do. I just think crime has gotten out of hand... How many more car thefts, House burglary, mugging, etc...etc... Sadly cops have no respect even from kids... You might look at china as a bad way of doing business but ya know it sure is a hell of a lot safer then the USA ... Why??? Cause the cops don't take shit... And any thug that thinks he can get away stealing your wallet or car or whatever.... Is gonna think REAL HARD about doing that shit in china...

Yeah I know what your thinking...What if the dude was innocent and just got mixed up in it... Slippery Slope...



 

superstition

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Obviously these protesters knew they were being filmed so I am sure that they did what they could to push the issue...
Such as? Do you have any proof from the video?
 

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Not to be glib (ok, to be), but whoever filmed and uploaded that should be clubbed. Videography and quality are egregious. I cannot even watch it. Sounds like some dick cops, though. A cop threatening a protestor's life should get suspended at the very least, even if it's a quick thing of the moment statement.
 

brownzilla786

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Hopefully there will be an investigation into this and those cops who acted out of their authority will be stomped on
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: ericlp
Well, this again is a slippery slope! But cops in China have a lot more control then the ones here in the USA. Obviously these protesters knew they were being filmed so I am sure that they did what they could to push the issue...

I don't believe in Violence at all. Tho, I think if a police offers (no matter what the reason) tells you to stop doing something you should respect and obey...

No ! America was not built up on fear or blind allegiance. Respect is earned and should never be given away. Sorry but this is just god awful logic. People have rights and they should be able to exercise their personal freedoms as long as they are not hurting anyone else. Protesting is not hurting a damn soul. If you are that afraid of crime then you can move to China if you think it's better.
 

glenn1

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
LoL - They were protesting the "brutal tactics of China" in Tibet only to get beat down by US cops. Oh the irony. NYPD's finest at work.

They should be happy as their pointless protest was probably enhanced due to the pointless beatdowns they received. Since "awareness" is one of the main goals of these kinds of protests, they got their wish as more people will see this now than would have otherwise. In the end though, this sort of protest is stupid because there's absolutely nothing their march is going to do to advance their stated cause.
 

superstition

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They should be happy as their pointless protest was probably enhanced due to the pointless beatdowns they received. Since "awareness" is one of the main goals of these kinds of protests, they got their wish as more people will see this now than would have otherwise. In the end though, this sort of protest is stupid because there's absolutely nothing their march is going to do to advance their stated cause.
It's always easy to side with the oppressor.
 

MadRat

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As disturbing as the article sounds it makes me remember that part in the movie "Gangs of New York" where the firefighters of two districts are fighting over who gets to loot the burning building in between their districts. Insane behavior like in the movie and real life stories like captured on the video may just be inbred to the city's finest.
 

superstition

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The problem is that the police force is staffed by people who want to be police. That results in people who want to have power over others having power over others. It results in people joining who feel might makes right is a correct philosophy and want to be part of the might. That results in abuse.

I have known good cops and bad cops, personally. Good cops want to serve. Bad cops want to dominate.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: superstition
Obviously these protesters knew they were being filmed so I am sure that they did what they could to push the issue...
Such as? Do you have any proof from the video?

One twitched his leg while lying on the ground, clearly a provocation which justified the wise decision of the cops to club him!
 

kage69

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That was disgusting.


Even though the vid quality was poor, and I know it didn't capture everything that happened, there is no question in my mind that those cops were acting out brutally without provocation.

Absolutely disgusting, even more so as I'm sure foreign reps were watching from the UN building - just more to scoff at once this country starts harping about liberty and freedom.


I'm starting to understand why people hold the NYPD in such distaste.


As disturbing as the article sounds it makes me remember that part in the movie "Gangs of New York" where the firefighters of two districts are fighting over who gets to loot the burning building in between their districts. Insane behavior like in the movie and real life stories like captured on the video may just be inbred to the city's finest.

Good movie, although I don't think you got the gist of that particular scene. Back in the day, there were no fire departments, so gangs formed legitimate sounding social clubs to fill the need for firefighters. The city paid the social club/gang that got to the scene first, so of course things got ugly when two or more showed up at the same time, which led to instances where there were all out gang rumbles taking place while buildings burned to the ground. It became common for gang members to squat on developing fires and hydrants, keeping all others away until their gang showed up. So, it was really about money and insuring that businesses who paid for protection didn't get looted while the fires were being fought. Not really a great parallel for city servants breaking out the clubs on peaceful demonstrators and issuing death threats.


 

LegendKiller

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What do you expect from the fascist cops who are controlled by fascist administrators who have hired 1000+ police to do foreign and domestic spying.
 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: ericlp

Tho, I think if a police offers (no matter what the reason) tells you to stop doing something you should respect and obey... Since that is what he/she is trained to do. I just think crime has gotten out of hand...

I think that you are incredibly confused. The slippery slope that you speak of is being applied in the wrong direction.

I'm not sure what country you are from but in America, we don't bow down to the cops just because they tell us to. Especially if we are exercising our constitutional rights.

And you are way off the mark on your statement about what cops' training is for. They are trained to enforce the law. Not to make the law up as they go along or to infringe on the rights of the citizenry for the convenience of crowd control or making it easier on themselves.

Protesting isn't a crime in America. At least not yet.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: ericlp

Tho, I think if a police offers (no matter what the reason) tells you to stop doing something you should respect and obey... Since that is what he/she is trained to do. I just think crime has gotten out of hand...

I think that you are incredibly confused. The slippery slope that you speak of is being applied in the wrong direction.

I'm not sure what country you are from but in America, we don't bow down to the cops just because they tell us to. Especially if we are exercising our constitutional rights.

And you are way off the mark on your statement about what cops' training is for. They are trained to enforce the law. Not to make the law up as they go along or to infringe on the rights of the citizenry for the convenience of crowd control or making it easier on themselves.

Protesting isn't a crime in America. At least not yet.

You're a beacon of logic, RightIsWrong.

I also hope that if protesting ever does become illegal, that EVERY freedom yearning American takes the the streets. Making dissent illegal would be the biggest mistake they could ever make, the people would destroy them from the inside out. (At least, I hope that we would/could)
 
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