Cops pay 3 a.m. visit to tell man his door is unlocked

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alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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cops, always looking for the easy way out and the hard way on the civilian.

instead of looking for crimes to prevent, how about stopping those in progress.

Oh...'we may get hurt'.

Quite a few of the cops in Palm Beach County are now facing jail time for claiming 20-60k+ of overtime a year. When they didn't work.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
How can a door be a jar?

uhm its ajar not a jar.



reminds me. i had a old Car that would tell you when the door was open.
"the door is ajar..The door is ajar" ugh man it drove me nuts.
 

nsafreak

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Oct 16, 2001
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Ok let's put it this way. I can see how a person would feel violated but frankly I'd be glad that the officer came in. Brief summary of what happened before the officers entered the house:

1) Garage door open
2) Keys in truck ignition
3) Door ajar
4) No responses to doorbell ringing or knocking on the door
5) No response when they went in the entryway and announced their presence

Frankly I think that they're fully justified as any one of the following could have been happening:

1) Robbery in progress
2) Violent acts in progress (assault, rape, homicide)
3) Somebody in need of medical attention

What if they just decided to just leave a note on the door? Then later found out that during that time an intruder had raped the guy's wife in front of him and then killed them both. Extreme? Yes but all too easily possible and I very much doubt that they'd be able to sleep well at night for a very long time. They had very probable cause to investigate and it would have been bordering on criminal negligence NOT to investigate.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Good thing the homeowner didn't wake up and defend his home against armed intruders.

So what, he's stupid and basically hangs a sign on his house that says "ROB ME!"
It still shouldn't give police the right to walk in. Maybe their knocks on the door weren't answered because everyone was sleeping.
I've slept through smoke alarms already, I'm in an upstairs bedroom, and there's sometimes traffic noise outside (trucks rumbling past on a lousy road). A door knock might not wake me.
But then I also don't leave my keys in the car ignition, I don't have a garage, and I've got a door lock, deadbolt, and one of those chain lock things.

If the police had not entered the house and something was amiss, you can be sure the anti-police posters on this forum would have been all over the story, screaming until they were blue in the face about how incompetent police officers are.

I can see it now:

"how could they have missed such OBVIOUS signs that something was wrong?"

"Jesus, they should have been less eager to go to Dunkin' Donuts and should have been focused on their jobs"

and the obligatory "fuck the pigs."
 

DainBramaged

Lifer
Jun 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: SampSon
That town is very lucky they don't have a couple dead cops.

This is true every time police officers enter a potentially dangerous situation.
 

Yossarian

Lifer
Dec 26, 2000
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this story would be more interesting if the cops had found a crack pipe on the guy's bedside table after they came in.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: nsafreak
Ok let's put it this way. I can see how a person would feel violated but frankly I'd be glad that the officer came in. Brief summary of what happened before the officers entered the house:

1) Garage door open
2) Keys in truck ignition
3) Door ajar
4) No responses to doorbell ringing or knocking on the door
5) No response when they went in the entryway and announced their presence

Frankly I think that they're fully justified as any one of the following could have been happening:

1) Robbery in progress
2) Violent acts in progress (assault, rape, homicide)
3) Somebody in need of medical attention

What if they just decided to just leave a note on the door? Then later found out that during that time an intruder had raped the guy's wife in front of him and then killed them both. Extreme? Yes but all too easily possible and I very much doubt that they'd be able to sleep well at night for a very long time. They had very probable cause to investigate and it would have been bordering on criminal negligence NOT to investigate.

This is definitely one of those slippery slope topics but I've got to side with the cops on this one. I can't even imagine would what have happened if there was something going on and that cops didn't investigate.
 

13Gigatons

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Apr 19, 2005
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Next time they should draw on his face so when the dumbass wakes up it reads "lock your door", on his forehead.
 

Babbles

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2001
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I gotta agree with the cops on this one. In fact it seems pretty cut and dry.
 

thomsbrain

Lifer
Dec 4, 2001
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I think the entire point of the police program is to make this point to an apparently clueless community: If you don't want random people walking into your house at night, CLOSE YOUR FUCKING DOORS. The officers entering the house just made that point in an extra-clear manner. Maybe this guy should be grateful that he didn't learn this lesson the hard way. I don't want cops barging into my house either, but I understand how doors and locks work. This wasn't some police-state intrusion. He was acting like a fucking moron and they had reasonable cause to check in.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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the cops were doing their jobs. sure, it might've frightened the chillins, but that's life. a burglar or murderer would've done a lot more than frighten them.

if i were this family i would be startled, sure, strangers have entered their home late at night, but then, i would be relieved and grateful that law enforcement was looking out for me. that's all there really should be to it.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
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Aug 23, 2003
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Nanny 911?

Here's an idea:

It's my home, so let me decide if I want to lock the door or not.
 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
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So the cops are out patrolling and checking neigborhoods for possible breakins. They find a garage door open, house door unlocked and open, tv on and no one answering to knocks at the door. Sounds to me like enough probable cause to investigate. The homeowner should be thankful the cops in his neighborhood are doing their job. I wonder how violated he would feel if he were woke up at gunpoint to watch the contents of his home being carried out.
 

nsafreak

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Nanny 911?

Here's an idea:

It's my home, so let me decide if I want to lock the door or not.

I'll remember that the next time I'm in your neighborhood
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Nanny 911?

Here's an idea:

It's my home, so let me decide if I want to lock the door or not.

Do you also leave your garage door open, your back door open, and your vehicle unlocked with the keys in the ignition?
 

tfcmasta97

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Feb 7, 2004
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lol keys in ignition, open garage, busted door, and OP would shoot them just for entering his property to inform the home owner.

what a hick
 
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