Core i3 6300 mini Review - AtenRa

AtenRa

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This is a mini review of the new Intel Skylake Core i3 6300.

Unfortunately due to a hardware failure on my USB stick i have lost the data of the Gaming power usage (except from Bioshock) and gaming results of Dragon Age and Civilization V Brave new World. I still have the results of Civilization Beyond Earth and Formula 1 2015 but i havent got time to test the rest of the systems on them, so i will not use those games today.


System Socket 1151

CPU : Core i3 6300
Motherboard : ASUS H110M-K D3
Memory : 2x 4GB 1866MHz Kingston Genesis 9-9-10 1.5V
HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB SATA-6
PSU : Thermal Take TR2 380W 80plus Bronze

Win 10 Pro 64bit
Intel HD Graphics Driver 64bit 154010.4300

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Sorry i dint have time to test all the systems on Win 10 yet, i will test them in future and make a new APU review but it will take some time. So for the rest of the systems i just took the old results from Win 8.1 with Catalyst 14.12.

AMD FM2/2+ System

Motherboard : ASUS A88XM-Plus
Memory : 2x 4GB 2133MHz Kingston Genesis 11-12-11 1.65V
HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB SATA-6
PSU : Thermal Take TR2 380W 80plus Bronze

AMD Catalyst 14:12 Omega
Windows 8.1 64bit

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FM1 System

Motherboard : GigaByte GA-A75N-USB3
Memory : 2x 4GB 2133MHz Kingston Genesis @ 1866MHz 10-11-10 1.65V
HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB SATA-6
PSU : Thermal Take TR2 380W 80plus Bronze

AMD Catalyst 14:12 Omega
Windows 8.1 64bit

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Socket 1150 Systems

ASUS B85E-M
Memory : 2x 4GB 2133MHz Kingston Genesis (1600MHz at 9-9-9 1.5V)
HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB SATA-6
PSU : Thermal Take TR2 380W 80plus Bronze

Intel Graphics Driver 15.36.14.64.4080
Windows 8.1 64bit

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Socket 1155 Systems

ASUS Maximus V Gene (Z77)
Memory : 2x 4GB 2133MHz Kingston Genesis (1600MHz at 9-9-9 1.5V)
HDD : Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB SATA-6
PSU : Thermal Take TR2 380W 80plus Bronze

Intel Graphics Driver 15.36.14.64.4080
Windows 8.1 64bit
 

AtenRa

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As expected, AMD still wins the igp gaming, but it looks like a nice improvement over Haswell. The efficiency in PC Mark and x264 is impressive, faster than Haswell, but uses less energy. Graphics are also quite improved over Haswell, maybe some actual progress instead of just throwing more EUs at the problem.
 

happy medium

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WHat no socket socket 2011, or 1156? Just kidding.

good work and thanks for the mini review.

I wonder how much the benchmarks would change with faster ram?
 

dark zero

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The big problem of Intel is that they don't have aditional tech like Mantle, or Gameworks to get advantage.

Is pure GPU power.
 

crashtech

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There is some good data there, AtenRa, thank you for your efforts. But nobody is going to game on an i3's iGPU, so honestly the gaming graphs are just to showcase what low minimums even the APUs are producing in many cases even with reduced, console-like resolutions and IQ. For the gaming tests it would be more realistic to test a midrange dGPU paired with the i3 and its closest AMD competition, like A10s already in the test, the FX-6300, and maybe even an FX-8320 which is selling for about $120 these days.
 
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Blue_Max

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It's nice to see the 7850k still hanging in there. Overclocked, it stands out pretty well. It's gulping about twice the power to do it, but it's still holding that lead.

BUT... I really wish AMD would put out a newer, better one. Not a quiet and tiny upgrade like the 7870k, but a new and much-improved unit which would really impress the casual gamer crowds. It was released on January 14, 2014 and it took Intel this long to catch up. Time for AMD to bring out a new APU whopper!
 

Justinbaileyman

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So what would be better for say video encoding with handbrake from VOB to MKV, a i3 6300 or a FX-8320e? Been using a AMD 5350 which takes about an hour to encode to 720p. Looking to do a upgrade to cut down encoding time.
 

bystander36

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As far as no one gaming on an i3's iGPU, that may mostly be true on the desktop as far as I'm aware, but I bet in mobile form factors, I'm betting a lot of people would. Of course power efficiency becomes important in mobile form factors.
 

Ken g6

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Nice! Looks like the i3 6300 hits it out of the park for everything that's not graphics-intensive.

How, exactly, did you manage to overclock an i3 4330?
 

AtenRa

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There is some good data there, AtenRa, thank you for your efforts. But nobody is going to game on an i3's iGPU, so honestly the gaming graphs are just to showcase what low minimums even the APUs are producing in many cases even with reduced, console-like resolutions and IQ.

The vast majority of Core i3 Systems are sold with the iGPU only. There are people still playing today using the Intel HD4000, the new HD530 is a lot faster and allows a 720p gaming especially using DDR-4 2133MHz or higher.

For the gaming tests it would be more realistic to test a midrange dGPU paired with the i3 and its closest AMD competition, like A10s already in the test, the FX-6300, and maybe even an FX-8320 which is selling for about $120 these days.

Coming soon with a new Gaming testing methodology.
 

AtenRa

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Nice! Looks like the i3 6300 hits it out of the park for everything that's not graphics-intensive.

How, exactly, did you manage to overclock an i3 4330?

The Core i3 4330 OC is only on the iGPU to 1450MHz.
 

Brunnis

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Lots of interesting data. Thanks!

Probably worth pointing out that the i3-6300 ran DDR3-1866 memory. I know it's there in the test system description, but some people probably miss it.
 

SPBHM

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The big problem of Intel is that they don't have aditional tech like Mantle, or Gameworks to get advantage.

Is pure GPU power.

Mantle didn't add much to the AMD IGPs and now it's dead
Gameworks is also pushing on the high end side, Intel is trying to get more attention from game developers I think, I've seen recently games mentioning Intel IGPs on min requirements and updates with Intel optimizations, there was also Grid 2 I think with exclusive features for Intel IGPs?!

AMD is simply better at making GPUs, Kaveri is on an inferior process tech bottlenecked by memory but still, it's GCN, the same architecture more or less from the consoles and high end VGAs.


about the tests, as expected GT2 is not a match for the AMD IGPs, while CPU is doing well, even on MT tests against overclocked A10s (which will probably use a lot more power to get those similar results, not to mention cooling and decent quality motherboard)
 
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TeknoBug

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I wouldn't dare game on my i3's GT2 iGPU, I get it that AtenRa is trying to sell the APU's advantage in this thread.
 

mikk

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The big problem of Intel is that they don't have aditional tech like Mantle, or Gameworks to get advantage.


This isn't a problem because Mantle is dead. The future is DX12 and Vulkan. And something like Gameworks isn't an option really since all these gimmicks are too demanding for iGPUs. And even if Intel would have additional tech like PixelSync and InstantAccess in Grid 2, devs wouldn't use it except some exceptions (Codemasters in a few games).
 

MrTeal

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The vast majority of Core i3 Systems are sold with the iGPU only. There are people still playing today using the Intel HD4000, the new HD530 is a lot faster and allows a 720p gaming especially using DDR-4 2133MHz or higher.



Coming soon with a new Gaming testing methodology.

Is there even DDR4 available slower than 2133MHz?
 

Vesku

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There is some good data there, AtenRa, thank you for your efforts. But nobody is going to game on an i3's iGPU, so honestly the gaming graphs are just to showcase what low minimums even the APUs are producing in many cases even with reduced, console-like resolutions and IQ. For the gaming tests it would be more realistic to test a midrange dGPU paired with the i3 and its closest AMD competition, like A10s already in the test, the FX-6300, and maybe even an FX-8320 which is selling for about $120 these days.

Plenty of people game on whatever computer they bought retail whether it has a dedicated GPU or not. It's the performance of iGPs that determines what games a lot of people end up playing. One of the reasons behind the success of League of Legends and DotA 2.
 

Sweepr

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I wouldn't dare game on my i3's GT2 iGPU, I get it that AtenRa is trying to sell the APU's advantage in this thread.

Pretty much the single reason why this thread exists. Alternatively you could use the same setup and run the tests that favour Intel chips.

Very curious memory kit selection too, considering Skylake benefits from faster RAM. Why would you choose DDR3-2133 on the APUs and gimp Skylake with DDR3-1866 when they can use much faster DDR4? Even after all of this, Core i3 6100 still beat OCed 7850K in the (few) CPU tests.

System Socket 1151
CPU : Core i3 6300
Motherboard : ASUS H110M-K D3
Memory : 2x 4GB 1866MHz Kingston Genesis 9-9-10 1.5V

AMD FM2/2+ System
Motherboard : ASUS A88XM-Plus
Memory : 2x 4GB 2133MHz Kingston Genesis 11-12-11 1.65V
 
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