Core i9 9900k Builders Thread

Jun 19, 2012
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I bit the bullet and bought the Core i9 9900k from compsource. The 9900k is expensive but in my view worth it. My previous computer got borked and I sold the working components. The motherboard, cooler, GPU and CPU haven't arrived yet.

My specs

CPU: Intel Core i9 9900k
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS Intel ATX Gaming Motherboard
Ram: 16gb (2x8gb) Gskill Ripjaws 3200mhz ddr4
GPU: PNY GTX 1080 ti
Cooling: Corsair H100 V2
Case: Be Quiet! Silent Base 600
Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40
Hard Drives: 2x Hitachi 2tb Hard Drives
 

aigomorla

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That MSI board wouldnt of been anything close to my first picks, but i guess good luck to you.
 
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Ottonomous

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SSD, almost never a regrettable purchase
Is the PNY blower or XLR8? Better the latter or another card
 
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Shmee

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Agreed, you will definitely want at least one SSD for that setup. I am not real fond of the PNY cards lately, so I would be careful to read reviews on that 1080Ti and make sure the cooler/performance is good.
 

The Sauce

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I think I'm in for a 9700k - finally upgrading from my 2500k built in 2011 (still going strong at 4.9 oc). Still not convinced I'll notice any performance improvement, but just time to replace aging parts before they blow up. I don't give a solid squirt about hyperthreading since the only thing I do that taxes a PC is gaming, and all that nonsense just adds heat and limits OC potential for my purposes.

Here's the build:

ASUS z390 Maximus Hero with 9700k
Ballistix Sport 3000 16gb
Corsair Carbide 275R case
Corsair h110i AIO
Samsung 970 EVO 500gb m.2
MSI 1070gtx (recycled - will probably sale and upgrade to 1080ti)
EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Win 10

I just picked up overtime worth about $2200 bonus income last week so I really dont care about dropping a little extra on the build. Everything is purchased short of the mobo/cpu at this point. I see people arguing for the 8700k for gaming, but not sure why I would do that over the 9700k to save $15.
 
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ttechf

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I think I'm in for a 9700k - finally upgrading from my 2500k built in 2011 (still going strong at 4.9 oc). Still not convinced I'll notice any performance improvement, but just time to replace aging parts before they blow up. I don't give a solid squirt about hyperthreading since the only thing I do that taxes a PC is gaming, and all that nonsense just adds heat and limits OC potential for my purposes.

Here's the build:

ASUS z390 Maximus Hero with 9700k
Ballistix Sport 3000 16gb
Corsair Carbide 275R case
Corsair h110i AIO
Samsung 970 EVO 500gb m.2
MSI 1070gtx (recycled - will probably sale and upgrade to 1080ti)
EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Win 10

I just picked up overtime worth about $2200 bonus income last week so I really dont care about dropping a little extra on the build. Everything is purchased short of the mobo/cpu at this point. I see people arguing for the 8700k for gaming, but not sure why I would do that over the 9700k to save $15.


I am in a similar boat as you are and created a thread for it as well as I am concerned with thermals for the i9-9900k right now. Only two things I do not have are a motherboard and CPU. Still deciding on i9-9900k, i7-9700k, i7-8700k or a Ryzen 7 2700 NON X just to hold me over until Ryzen 2 in 2019 releases and then splurge on the most likely "Ryzen 7 3700X".

It's a real toss up between the 8700k and the 9700k though. More threads, less cores or less threads and more cores. I think from what I've seen the new i7-9700k edges out the 8700k by like 5%. With a good enough cooler as well, you'll easily hit 5Ghz on a 9700k on all cores.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck with your build!
 
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radeson

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There are some conflicting sites saying this CPU has 40 lanes.... But userbenchmark says it has 16. Anyone know the actual specs?? Also is it worth upgrading from 6850k/Rampage V????
 

Campy

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There are some conflicting sites saying this CPU has 40 lanes.... But userbenchmark says it has 16. Anyone know the actual specs?? Also is it worth upgrading from 6850k/Rampage V????

16 lanes direct to CPU, the chipset(Z390) has 24 lanes. There's a separate x4 lane DMI link between the CPU and chipset. Intel mainstream platforms always have 16 cpu lanes.

When in doubt, check ark.intel.com
 

epsilon84

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I am in a similar boat as you are and created a thread for it as well as I am concerned with thermals for the i9-9900k right now. Only two things I do not have are a motherboard and CPU. Still deciding on i9-9900k, i7-9700k, i7-8700k or a Ryzen 7 2700 NON X just to hold me over until Ryzen 2 in 2019 releases and then splurge on the most likely "Ryzen 7 3700X".

It's a real toss up between the 8700k and the 9700k though. More threads, less cores or less threads and more cores. I think from what I've seen the new i7-9700k edges out the 8700k by like 5%. With a good enough cooler as well, you'll easily hit 5Ghz on a 9700k on all cores.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck with your build!

I think in your case, you either go with the CFL chips (for outright best gaming / high refresh rate) or you save significant money and get the 2600. It's $100 cheaper than the 2700 for effectively identical gaming performance.

The Ryzen 7 chips are in a somewhat awkward price bracket for gaming - they arent any faster than the R5s for games while costing more, and aren't really in CFL territory either.
 

aigomorla

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First off KEEP RYZEN OUT OF THIS THREAD.
This is an INTEL build thread, it has no purpose for RYZEN or AMD.
You want to talk about RYZEN, do it in another thread and not a 9900K Build thread.
If your debating on Ryzen vs CFL... well, this is NOT the proper thread, so take your comments about non build related stuff and get the hell out.
This thread was intended for people who already made that choice in getting 9900k.... not to convince them otherwise.

So seems like some people are sort of lost in what tier 1 eq is for CFL...
So here is my Tier 1 core recommendation.

If i was going to get a 9900k... i would get these parts as my first pick..

1. 9900k Cpu duh....

2. ASrock z390 Taichi...
https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Z390 Taichi/index.asp
unless u want that 10G nic, then grab an ultimate. (but i will stand behind the Taichi Series, its a solid board, and definitely my first picks...
or...
eVGA Z390 Dark.
https://www.evga.com/articles/01260/evga-z390-motherboard/
Can we say stupidly over engineered board with ridiculously amount of quality thrown on a board.
Yes you want the best, the Z390 Dark is hands down the board you get, but its pricey as hell....

Those 2 board are my top tier pick.... i would not look at any other board but those two IMO unless you want ITX...
If it really came down to me, i would get the eVGA Dark.... Infact i will state this from experience... for ANY INTEL CPU, the eVGA Dark series is the board to get... its straight up over engineered for solid overclocking even down to shorter and thicker traces on the PCB.

3. The fastest ram your budget can afford.... Hands down you want at least greater then 3000mhz.... 3200mhz is more ideal... anything more then that maybe pushing it a bit, but these chips love ram speed. When you buy ram also try to keep it to 2 sticks for a CFL system. Do not intend to drop 4, you will lose latency when you go from 2 to 4, and the 9900k does not have quad channel support, so you really want 2 large sticks, as they also hold resell value better then 4 small ones.
Ie... you will get better value in having 2 x 16gb vs 4 x 8gb... as 16gb dimms hold value way better then 8gb dimms.
And dont even bother with 4gb dimms, being serious here.... 4gb dimms are about as good as paper weights, especially as time goes on.

4. Cooler... well, if the chips WERENT SOLDERED, you could just delid that puppy, and run the die naked, but nooooooo, we had too many whinners and now the thing is soldered... (sarcasm)
but seriously, these chips run very hot, so no, if your intending to drop a 30 dollar CM Hyper EVO, excuse me while i go doing a star trek Picard face palm... Definitely will need a good heat sink... or at least a 240-360 AIO with upgraded fans.

There are some conflicting sites saying this CPU has 40 lanes.... But userbenchmark says it has 16. Anyone know the actual specs?? Also is it worth upgrading from 6850k/Rampage V????

The cpu has 16
The board 24
Combined you get 40.

This is a board designed for at most 1 Nvme SSD + 1-2 GPU's.
If you need more NVMe's or your mining and need those PCI-E Lanes, this is not the proper platform.

Now is it worth upgrading your broadwell to a cfl....
Well, its 2 completely different platforms. One is an enthusiast, and the other is mainstream.
Depending on what you do, you may see better results on the 9900k due to its 5ghz turbo.
You will also easily get it to overclock 8cores @ 5ghz as well.
Are you doing something which requires a very fast core clock?
If you are, then yes, a 5ghz core clock is not something to scoff over, especially if your chip has 8 of those work horses with an additional 8 more in Hyper Threading.

Are you just playing games, and not doing anything else...
Then possibly no.... i for one am not going on this platform because my 7920X does 5ghz on 12cores @ 1.25V, and has more PCI-E lanes which i do need because i have 3 x NVMe's populated on 2 of my pci-e lanes with my intel Paid DLC err i mean VROC chip.... sigh.... which i will state is NOT worth it.. :T
 
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ZGR

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I think I'm in for a 9700k - finally upgrading from my 2500k built in 2011 (still going strong at 4.9 oc). Still not convinced I'll notice any performance improvement, but just time to replace aging parts before they blow up. I don't give a solid squirt about hyperthreading since the only thing I do that taxes a PC is gaming, and all that nonsense just adds heat and limits OC potential for my purposes.

I am sure the 9700k will be a great overclocker. The game I play the most murders quad core i5's (4c4t) where a 4c8t i7 performs far, far faster. Hyperthreading appears to help in a number of games, but 8 cores should be great regardless. I do think it is a safe option going with the 9700K, as 5GHz+ with hyperthreading adds a lot of extra heat. If you game higher than 144hz, these chips should be great.
 

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3. The fastest ram your budget can afford.... Hands down you want at least greater then 3000mhz.... 3200mhz is more ideal... anything more then that maybe pushing it a bit, but these chips love ram speed. When you buy ram also try to keep it to 2 sticks for a CFL system.

Some are saying the IMC is weaker on the 9900k and other 9-series chips versus the 8-series chip. So I'm not sure that super-expensive RAM will pan out as well on a 9900k versus 8700k. Either that, or we need updated UEFIs for Z370 boards or Z390 boards to compensate. It may also be that the RAM OEMs need to update their XMP settings.
 

Kenmitch

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My only advice would be don't go cheap on the MB as algomoria already stated. Choose wisely!

Anybody doing the drop in upgrade on their current budget MB? Would be interesting to hear their end results.
 

BrandonT

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I am putting my 9900k in an ncase m1, with a be quiet! dark rock TF, and an ASRock Z390 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/AC. Wish me luck!

I'm using the same board for my 9900k. Going to be so nice to get away from these monster cases! I had some concern with power delivery and this board but I think we're safe: https://www.eteknix.com/asrock-phantom-gaming-itx-ac-z390-motherboard-review/. Also I'm going with the Metallic Gear Neo MiniG: http://metallicgear.com/products/Neo-G-Series-mITX. So far I'm really impressed this case, can flow A LOT of air, it's like a swiss cheese case. I'm using two 140's for intake and may add another 120 on the bottom. Only mistake they made is where the 240 AIO is mounted on the side, due to a piece that sticks out at the bottom you can't quite fit an AIO there, by mm. I solved it by going to Ace and buying 1/4" aluminum spacers. The AIO does stick out in front of the 140's a bit, but overall I think they did a great job of stuffing a lot of features and performance into a tiny case.
 

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Should also note, if you use an AIO (or even fans) on the side, you can't mount a HDD there. So that upped cost a bit as it forced me to by a storage SSD that could fit. Luckily Micron was selling their 2TB model for $250 so not such a bad thing.
 

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... Also I'm going with the Metallic Gear Neo MiniG: http://metallicgear.com/products/Neo-G-Series-mITX. So far I'm really impressed this case, can flow A LOT of air, it's like a swiss cheese case. I'm using two 140's for intake and may add another 120 on the bottom. Only mistake they made is where the 240 AIO is mounted on the side ...

Quick question given that I was going to buy a fractal design define nano S to replace my node304, hadn't heard of this great looking ITX case, and I'm now VERY interested.
Did I read the specs sheet right, and there isn't top or back fan options? Do you plan on using the side with the AIO as exhaust then? I always prefer to have my AIO as intake if posible...
Thanks and sorry for the off topic.
 

BrandonT

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Correct, no top (other than PSU) or back fan. BUT...The back and bottom are wide open, so if you can push a lot air, you have places to exhaust it. I am going to exhaust with the AIO, but since the front 140's are supplying it, it is basically clean air. A pic says a thousand words:


 

ttechf

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BrandonT, looks a little cramped in there BUT, it does look nice and should be able to cool effectively. I'm still on the fence of getting the i7-9700k, i7-8700k or i9-9900k. I just don't want to purchase the i9-9900k and be in a bad spot thermally. So I am going to wait 2-3 weeks and wait for some more reviews to come out and overclock scenarios. Agian, good stuff though!
 
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