Cornel West: President Obama Doesn’t Deserve To Be Sworn In With MLK’s Bible [VIDEO]

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Cornel West: President Obama Doesn’t Deserve To Be Sworn In With MLK’s Bible

6 min video

“You don’t play with Martin Luther King, Jr. and you don’t play with his people, said West. “By his people, I mean people of good conscience, fundamentally good people committed to peace and truth and justice, especially the Black tradition that produced it.
“All of the blood, sweat and tears that went into producing a Martin Luther King, Jr. generated a brother of such high decency and dignity that you don’t use his prophetic fire for a moment of presidential pageantry without understanding the challenge he represents to all of those in power regardless of what color they are.
“The righteous indignation of a Martin Luther King, Jr. becomes a moment of political calculation. And that makes my blood boil. Why? Because Martin Luther King, Jr died…he died…for the three crimes against humanity that he was wrestling with. Jim Crow, traumatizing, terrorizing, stigmatizing Black people. Lynching, not just ‘segregation’ as the press likes to talk about.
“Second: Carpet bombing in Vietnam killing innocent people, especially innocent children, those are war crimes that Martin Luther King , Jr. was willing to die for. And thirdly, was poverty of all colors, he said it is a crime against humanity for the richest nation in the world to have so many of it’s precious children of all colors living in poverty and especially on the chocolate side of the nation, and on Indian reservations and Brown barrios and yellow slices and Black ghettos — we call them hoods now, but ghettos then.
“So I said to myself ain’t nothing wrong with putting your hand on the bible, even though the bible’s talking about justice, Jesus is talking about the least of these, but when you put it on Martin’s bible, I said ‘this is personal for me,’ because this is the tradition that I come out of.”

Good video IMO calling Obama out on his hypocrisy. West is one of the few from the black community to speak out against Obama but thats not why I respect him. I respect him because he holds core morals that he holds to everyone evenly. He ranted about Bush as well as he does against Obama. Too bad our leaders don't listen. They'd rather claim a previous generations glory while at the same time pissing on their graves.
 
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Excellent response from Cornel West, he points out the hypocrisy from obama and takes him down. West absolutely destroyed obama and ripped him, obama or any other president should not be using the Bible of MLK, this is wrong.

I definitely gained a new level of respect for Cornel West
 

NoStateofMind

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Excellent response from Cornel West, he points out the hypocrisy from obama and takes him down. West absolutely destroyed obama and ripped him, obama or any other president should not be using the Bible of MLK, this is wrong.

I definitely gained a new level of respect for Cornel West

Which point did you like best?
 
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Cornel West has a longstanding dislike of President Obama, who failed to invite West to his first inauguration. I get the sense that is largely what underlies these sentiments. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, but to me this video just sounds like a jealous man who enjoys the sound of his own voice.
 

LegendKiller

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Cornel West has a longstanding dislike of President Obama, who failed to invite West to his first inauguration. I get the sense that is largely what underlies these sentiments. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, but to me this video just sounds like a jealous man who enjoys the sound of his own voice.

And the sound of tenure, probably a nice big house and a nice car. Ohh how he suffers.
 

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This guy is a lunatic, although an intelligent lunatic.
West believes that "the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's ugly totalitarian regime was desirable,"[40] but that the war in Iraq was the result of "dishonest manipulation" on the part of the Bush administration.[41] He asserts that Bush Administration hawks "are not simply conservative elites and right-wing ideologues", but rather are "evangelical nihilists — drunk with power and driven by grand delusions of American domination of the world". He adds, "We are [now] experiencing the sad gangsterization of America, an unbridled grasp at power, wealth, and status." Viewing capitalism as the root cause of these alleged American lusts, West warns, "Free-market fundamentalism trivializes the concern for public interest. It puts fear and insecurity in the hearts of anxiety-ridden workers. It also makes money-driven, poll-obsessed elected officials deferential to corporate goals of profit — often at the cost of the common good."[42]

West, along with other prominent Nader 2000 supporters, signed the "Vote to Stop Bush" statement urging progressive voters in swing states to vote for John Kerry, despite strong disagreements with many of Kerry's policies.[44]
 

Bowfinger

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Thanks for not contributing to the thread. Now move along please.
UberNeuman raises a valid point, however. If someone started posting threads linking the countless (minor) celebrities who think Obama is the best thing since sliced bread, you would rightly dismiss them as unimportant. The only reason you find West different is he reinforces your preexisting hatred of Obama. His opinion is also colored by his preexisting feelings. Film at eleven indeed.
 

NoStateofMind

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UberNeuman raises a valid point, however. If someone started posting threads linking the countless (minor) celebrities who think Obama is the best thing since sliced bread, you would rightly dismiss them as unimportant. The only reason you find West different is he reinforces your preexisting hatred of Obama. His opinion is also colored by his preexisting feelings. Film at eleven indeed.

Umm no, he didn't. You are ignorant of what I think of Obama and have jumped to a conclusion that I hate him. If you had actually bothered to care what his argument is then you would understand. But no, being a left wing nutbag you proclaim hatred to dignify your ignorance. Well your post was just as off topic as his so either get with it or move to another lefty circle jerk.

oh yeah, thanks for playing.
 

NoStateofMind

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This guy is a lunatic, although an intelligent lunatic.
West believes that "the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's ugly totalitarian regime was desirable,"[40] but that the war in Iraq was the result of "dishonest manipulation" on the part of the Bush administration.[41] He asserts that Bush Administration hawks "are not simply conservative elites and right-wing ideologues", but rather are "evangelical nihilists — drunk with power and driven by grand delusions of American domination of the world". He adds, "We are [now] experiencing the sad gangsterization of America, an unbridled grasp at power, wealth, and status." Viewing capitalism as the root cause of these alleged American lusts, West warns, "Free-market fundamentalism trivializes the concern for public interest. It puts fear and insecurity in the hearts of anxiety-ridden workers. It also makes money-driven, poll-obsessed elected officials deferential to corporate goals of profit — often at the cost of the common good."[42]

West, along with other prominent Nader 2000 supporters, signed the "Vote to Stop Bush" statement urging progressive voters in swing states to vote for John Kerry, despite strong disagreements with many of Kerry's policies.[44]

All that may be true but doesn't excuse Obama from his actions as President.
 

NoStateofMind

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Cornel West has a longstanding dislike of President Obama, who failed to invite West to his first inauguration. I get the sense that is largely what underlies these sentiments. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, but to me this video just sounds like a jealous man who enjoys the sound of his own voice.

IDK how true a "long standing dislike" is but it hardly changes the matter at hand.
 
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Obama's a pro-war neocon while MLK was against the US govt's foreign policy. That said, Dr. King would not be happy.

This! MLK would have opposed much of what obama is doing and wouldn't support him or be happy with him using his Bible. Shame on obama for doing this.
 
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Umm no, he didn't. You are ignorant of what I think of Obama and have jumped to a conclusion that I hate him. If you had actually bothered to care what his argument is then you would understand. But no, being a left wing nutbag you proclaim hatred to dignify your ignorance. Well your post was just as off topic as his so either get with it or move to another lefty circle jerk.

oh yeah, thanks for playing.

Why are you resorting to such gratuitous personal attacks? In any case it appears from your use of the phrase "left wing nutbag" that Bowfinger has touched a nerve.

Honestly, I don't know who decreed you an Elite member, but obviously that appellation doesn't mean what it used to.
 
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IDK how true a "long standing dislike" is but it hardly changes the matter at hand.

It's absolutely true - a quick Google search will yield years of West attacks on Obama, including but not limited to instances in which West has called the President a "Republican in blackface." This all began when West felt the President wasn't sufficiently deferential to West during his campaign, and then failed to invite him to the inauguration. Obviously his present remarks have to be taken in that context.

Why is it you believe West's opinion of the President is sufficiently noteworthy to warrant creating this thread?
 

NoStateofMind

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Why are you resorting to such gratuitous personal attacks? In any case it appears from your use of the phrase "left wing nutbag" that Bowfinger has touched a nerve.

Honestly, I don't know who decreed you an Elite member, but obviously that appellation doesn't mean what it used to.

Are you going to post on topic or not?
 

NoStateofMind

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It's absolutely true - a quick Google search will yield years of West attacks on Obama, including but not limited to instances in which West has called the President a "Republican in blackface." This all began when West felt the President wasn't sufficiently deferential to West during his campaign, and then failed to invite him to the inauguration. Obviously his present remarks have to be taken in that context.

Why is it you believe West's opinion of the President is sufficiently noteworthy to warrant creating this thread?

Ok so its true, how does this lessen the actions of this administration? Yes it does warrant a thread IMO. You see this is your problem. You now think you are P&N forum police. GTFO of the high horse shit. If you don't think this thread is warranted why post in it?
 

Bowfinger

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Umm no, he didn't. You are ignorant of what I think of Obama and have jumped to a conclusion that I hate him. ...
Lulz! Talk about self-delusion. You are consistently one of the most partisan posters here, almost as extreme as Spidey (but without all the frothing). The fact that Incorruptible and Anarchist are enthusiastically in your court should give you cause to consider just how irrational you've become with this President.

As far as West's "argument" is concerned, I don't care. I don't care about his opinions any more than I care about Oprah's or Pete Rose's. They are welcome to their opinions, but they have no special credentials that make their political opinions more important than others'. YMMV. If your faith is bolstered by finding people who tell you what you want to hear, knock yourself out. It's not called the Conservative Echo Chamber for nothing.
 

UberNeuman

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Lulz! Talk about self-delusion. You are consistently one of the most partisan posters here, almost as extreme as Spidey (but without all the frothing). The fact that Incorruptible and Anarchist are enthusiastically in your court should give you cause to consider just how irrational you've become with this President.

As far as West's "argument" is concerned, I don't care. I don't care about his opinions any more than I care about Oprah's or Pete Rose's. They are welcome to their opinions, but they have no special credentials that make their political opinions more important than others'. YMMV. If your faith is bolstered by finding people who tell you what you want to hear, knock yourself out. It's not called the Conservative Echo Chamber for nothing.

:thumbsup:
 

NoStateofMind

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Is posting "on-topic" meant to only be agreeing with you?

\because that's not going to happen.


None of you dumb fucks have addressed the comments made in this thread just like you do in all the other threads. neff, troll, bitch. Thats your motto. Either post on topic or dont fucking post. I cant believe you need to be hand held through this shit.
 
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