Cornel West: President Obama Doesn’t Deserve To Be Sworn In With MLK’s Bible [VIDEO]

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Ok so its true, how does this lessen the actions of this administration? Yes it does warrant a thread IMO. You see this is your problem. You now think you are P&N forum police. GTFO of the high horse shit. If you don't think this thread is warranted why post in it?


I merely asked why you believed Cornel West's opinion warranted a thread, which you have yet to answer. Would you consider it thread-worthy if Barbra Streisand made a public speech supporting the President? How about George Clooney?

I am certainly not the forum police, but you make a particularly ironic point in that you have spent the afternoon trying to police my posting through your very own "high horse shit." You really seem to lack insight into your own behavior. This is Elite how, exactly?
 

NoStateofMind

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Lulz! Talk about self-delusion. You are consistently one of the most partisan posters here, almost as extreme as Spidey (but without all the frothing). The fact that Incorruptible and Anarchist are enthusiastically in your court should give you cause to consider just how irrational you've become with this President.

As far as West's "argument" is concerned, I don't care. I don't care about his opinions any more than I care about Oprah's or Pete Rose's. They are welcome to their opinions, but they have no special credentials that make their political opinions more important than others'. YMMV. If your faith is bolstered by finding people who tell you what you want to hear, knock yourself out. It's not called the Conservative Echo Chamber for nothing.

Prove it! You made the claim I am extreme. now prove it or shut your mouth. You cant and wont. You know why? Cause I gave to the Bushs when they were here and I'm givin it to the Obama's too. Good luck.

You don't care cause you are a leftist apologist. I bet you will wholeheartedly agree with MLK on this subject but when your President Obama is guilty of the same you turn your head. I bet you dont care. Coward.
 

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I merely asked why you believed Cornel West's opinion warranted a thread, which you have yet to answer. Would you consider it thread-worthy if Barbra Streisand made a public speech supporting the President? How about George Clooney?

I am certainly not the forum police, but you make a particularly ironic point in that you have spent the afternoon trying to police my posting through your very own "high horse shit." You really seem to lack insight into your own behavior. This is Elite how, exactly?

You have got to have something better to do than troll this thread. The reason for this thread is in the OP. You don't like the reason move the fuck on like an adult but you can't because lack the bare decision making skills of "turning the channel".
 
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You have got to have something better to do than troll this thread. The reason for this thread is in the OP. You don't like the reason move the fuck on like an adult but you can't because lack the bare decision making skills of "turning the channel".

I addressed the subject matter of the thread, you responded, I responded back (all about the relationship between West and the President, which is directly relevant and on-topic). See, this is discussion. You are the one who chose to descend into personal attacks and profanity for no apparent reason. Don't call me the troll in this equation.
 

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Cornel West: President Obama Doesn’t Deserve To Be Sworn In With MLK’s Bible

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Good video IMO calling Obama out on his hypocrisy. West is one of the few from the black community to speak out against Obama but thats not why I respect him. I respect him because he holds core morals that he holds to everyone evenly. He ranted about Bush as well as he does against Obama. Too bad our leaders don't listen. They'd rather claim a previous generations glory while at the same time pissing on their graves.

Ya know the yarn about a woman scorned? Well this is the second Black Pres swearing in West did not get invited to.

edit: WOW!! You have Ancor and Incorr to agree with you? Gotta read the whole thread and not just shoot off a knee-jerk response to the first idiotic post.
 
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NoStateofMind

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I addressed the subject matter of the thread, you responded, I responded back (all about the relationship between West and the President, which is directly relevant and on-topic). See, this is discussion. You are the one who chose to descend into personal attacks and profanity for no apparent reason. Don't call me the troll in this equation.

No you didn't address the points of this thread. You made your own points about West and never made reference to the subject matter in the OP. All you stated more or less was that West had an agenda. Thats it. Now if you wanna talk about the subjects of carpet bombing/drone strikes, poverty or racism (all in the OP and none you mentioned) then lets have at it. Otherwise you are not addressing what the president isn't addressing.
 
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NoStateofMind

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Ya know the yarn about a woman scorned? Well this is the second Black Pres swearing in West did not get invited to.

Okay, you've all set up motive. Great. Now what's Obama's excuse for killing innocent people? Did MLK fight only for black folk? Or was it much bigger?
 

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Excellent response from Cornel West, he points out the hypocrisy from obama and takes him down. West absolutely destroyed obama and ripped him, obama or any other president should not be using the Bible of MLK, this is wrong. I definitely gained a new level of respect for Cornel West
Which point did you like best?

Any part that is critical of President Obama is aces in Incorruptable's book.

Does President Obama deserve criticism? Yes, absolutely.

However if President Obama did try to address all of the points that Dr. West brought up in his first term Fox News and other conservative outlets would've used that to attack him in public. And Incorruptable would have gleefully joined in.

Incorrupable otherwise has no use for Dr. West. That is his hypocrisy.
 

NoStateofMind

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Any part that is critical of President Obama is aces in Incorruptable's book.

Does President Obama deserve criticism? Yes, absolutely.

However if President Obama did try to address all of the points that Dr. West brought up in his first term Fox News and other conservative outlets would've used that to attack him in public. And Incorruptable would have gleefully joined in.

Incorrupable otherwise has no use for Dr. West. That is his hypocrisy.

Exactly the reason I asked. I wanted to see if he would give a reasoned response to a question. He didn't. All he would have had to do is copy paste some text or listen to about 3 min of video and parrot it here. He didn't. So I am pretty sure where he stands.

West is one of the people I would like to meet. Very articulate and intelligent. Conversation never lacks with someone like him.
 

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This thread, in my opinion, amounts to an endorsement of one person's opinion as a way to criticize somebody else. Because I can't imagine an objective way to evaluate whether Obama deserves to be sworn in on the MLK Bible, I can't help but put this all down to personal opinion. What we see are dueling opinions. If anybody cares and I doubt they do, I agree with West's criticism but can't say Obama is not deserving just because I see faults.
 

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Funny hearing Cornel West go after Obama when this guy is firmly in the camp that believes more government is the only solution to every problem in society.

Now he gets what he wanted (a black president and expanded government) and now he hates the big government expansion and grab for power over the rights of the individual and the polices enacted by said president which have bolstered this action. I guess he believed that he would get a savior or something but the reality is he got the opposite that he wanted according to his statements and that is what I view as irony at its finest.
 

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I think it is a shame that Obama swore an oath on any holy book.

It is an absolutely unnecessary, anachronistic piece of ceremony that I could do without.
 

UberNeuman

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This thread, in my opinion, amounts to an endorsement of one person's opinion as a way to criticize somebody else. Because I can't imagine an objective way to evaluate whether Obama deserves to be sworn in on the MLK Bible, I can't help but put this all down to personal opinion. What we see are dueling opinions. If anybody cares and I doubt they do, I agree with West's criticism but can't say Obama is not deserving just because I see faults.

A fair summation, sir.

However what I find galling is that one man in 2013 has taken ownership of what another man that was assassinated nearly 45 years ago might feel today....
 

DucatiMonster696

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A fair summation, sir.

However what I find galling is that one man in 2013 has taken ownership of what another man that was assassinated nearly 45 years ago might feel today....

Kind of like Spike Lee and his statements against Tarantino's movie. Race politics usually hinges on a select few speaking for everyone in the history of creation who share the same skin color in order to maintain relevancy.
 

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Kind of like Spike Lee and his statements against Tarantino's movie. Race politics usually hinges on a select few speaking for everyone in the history of creation who share the same skin color in order to maintain relevancy.

Spike Lee? Great director - but also a massive dry wise and beautiful woman over the years...
 

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Cornel West has a longstanding dislike of President Obama, who failed to invite West to his first inauguration. I get the sense that is largely what underlies these sentiments. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, but to me this video just sounds like a jealous man who enjoys the sound of his own voice.

Yep, thats exactly why both he and Mr. Wright are salty about Obama. Althought, Mr. Wright is more angry that Obama quickly distanced himself from the Reverend after clips of his hateful diatribes came out.

Also, if you remember correctly, Al Sharpton was talking shit about Obama too in 2008, but guess what he was doing on Election night....

standing there crying like a baby because Obama got elected and he said a black man wouldn't do it. Now, he sings Obama's praises.

People are so wishy washy.

Haters are your biggest fan. If you don't have haters, you aren't doing something right.
 
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Exactly the reason I asked. I wanted to see if he would give a reasoned response to a question. He didn't. All he would have had to do is copy paste some text or listen to about 3 min of video and parrot it here. He didn't. So I am pretty sure where he stands.

West is one of the people I would like to meet. Very articulate and intelligent. Conversation never lacks with someone like him.

So why bother asking the question, The reason I agree with West is because everything MLK believed in obama is against, MLK was against the wars and would be against obama with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Arab Spring and the drone strikes in Afghanistan which have KILLED INNOCENT CHILDREN

http://dawn.com/2012/12/19/no-obama-tears-for-children-killed-by-drones-in-pakistan/

As well MLK would not be happy with obama on gun control, Shortly after his house was bombed he applied for a CCW permit but was denied because of racism and they said he didn't need it. obama is using him as a cheap political stunt.

Also MLK was a CHRISTIAN and I dont think he would be happy with obama and his stance on Christianity

obama-The US is no longer a Christian nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik


http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/martin-luther-king-jr-and-his-guns-76844/
 

UberNeuman

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So why bother asking the question, The reason I agree with West is because everything MLK believed in obama is against, MLK was against the wars and would be against obama with Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Arab Spring and the drone strikes in Afghanistan which have KILLED INNOCENT CHILDREN

http://dawn.com/2012/12/19/no-obama-tears-for-children-killed-by-drones-in-pakistan/

As well MLK would not be happy with obama on gun control, Shortly after his house was bombed he applied for a CCW permit but was denied because of racism and they said he didn't need it. obama is using him as a cheap political stunt.

Also MLK was a CHRISTIAN and I dont think he would be happy with obama and his stance on Christianity

obama-The US is no longer a Christian nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmC3IevZiik


http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/martin-luther-king-jr-and-his-guns-76844/

Go ahead OP...
 

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I have a problem with Obama and Washington being foolish with our money and spending millions when we need to be cutting back. He missed a great opportunity to be a real leader by demonstrating fiscal responsibility, but instead he emulated the credit consuming crazed of our country, which is the majority apparently.

I also have a problem with him swearing in on the Bible- I don't care whose Bible it is, but if you are a proponent of gay rights and abortion, you really should use another book. Obama should have sworn in using 50 Shades of Gray.
 

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Prove it! You made the claim I am extreme. now prove it or shut your mouth. You cant and wont. You know why? Cause I gave to the Bushs when they were here and I'm givin it to the Obama's too. Good luck.

You don't care cause you are a leftist apologist. I bet you will wholeheartedly agree with MLK on this subject but when your President Obama is guilty of the same you turn your head. I bet you dont care. Coward.
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If you want proof PC Surgeon, maybe you should listen to Adam West's constituents in a rather conservative Florida district. Nationwide, liberal or conservative, being the incumbent congressman results in almost 90% odds of being reelected. Nor did the Adam West challenge come from a candidate running to the right of Adam West.

Yet in 11/2012, when Adam West ran for reelection with an established record, West got rather soundly beaten and rejected by the very voters of his own own district. As I submit, because Adam West was simply too idiotic for his constituents to tolerate again.

As that is all the proof you need PC Surgeon, don''t come crying to this forum, or try to elevate a idiot into a saint, when you need understand why a MAJORITY of Adam West's constitutions gave the Adam West NUT CASE the ole heave ho. Meanwhile back at the ranch in southern Minnesota, a somewhat NUT Case CLONE to Adam West named Michelle Backmann came within an eyelash of losing too. And Michelle will likely lose in 11/2014. After she trumped West by winning all the GOP Straw in Iowa.
 
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