Trump sounded dumb as usual, but nothing egregious. Stayed on script. Appointing Pence seems kinda dumb, but maybe there's good precedent?
On, I just meant that I thought it was an odd choice given Pence's poor handling of HIV in Indiana, not experience as n Healthcare, and limited accomplishments (I honestly can't think of anything, but I'm biased) thus far as VP. I also can't think of many instances of President's deferring management of potentially acute crisis to VPs, but admittedly I don't think I have the historical knowledge to make a strong point either way.About Pence and precedent.
On, I just meant that I thought it was an odd choice given Pence's poor handling of HIV in Indiana, and limited accomplishments (I honestly can't think of anything, but I'm biased) thus far as VP. I also can't think of many instances of President's deferring management of potentially acute crisis to VPs, but admittedly I don't think I have the historical knowledge to make a strong point either way.
It appears you have enough evidence to make a judgement on Pence.On, I just meant that I thought it was an odd choice given Pence's poor handling of HIV in Indiana, not experience as n Healthcare, and limited accomplishments (I honestly can't think of anything, but I'm biased) thus far as VP. I also can't think of many instances of President's deferring management of potentially acute crisis to VPs, but admittedly I don't think I have the historical knowledge to make a strong point either way.
Really just seems like Trump is setting up Pence as a scapegoat (which is hilarious because it's simply a reflection on Trump).
Like Hillary said, there is a public and private face.
Public Trump (and every world leader): Nothing to see here, keep investing in our businesses.
Private Trump: Why the fuck did you let them cross our border, State Dept, when I told you not to?
Me: Just picked up a 3M Respirator and swimming goggles. Since I'm already always prepared, we could go 6 months off my stash of dry organic beans. Which do you like better, Pinto or Black or Garbanzo? My kid likes the Black beans the best. I made Pinto with my super secret salt and he liked them. Says he wants more. I heat up more Pinto. "No daddy, I wanted black beans!" /facepalm
BREAKING: Trump administration introduces team tasked with handling coronavirus response.
Big part of Trump's BSS team. (Both Sides Squad.)
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“Flu will not replace us!!”
Seems to me Trump simply dumped possible bad press for himself over to his lackey Pence.
If things go sideways on this virus problem it will be Pence taking the hit as Trump skates away from accountability while throwing Pence under the bloodied wheels of his bus.
Since Pence has now been put in charge of dealing with the virus, he will push for an executive order declaring the virus illegal and anyone caught in possession of it is to be sent to a camp for conversion therapy to make them aware that they are not really infected. One assumes he'll be solving the Caronavirus in his spare time while he's not running that Religious Liberty Task Force.
"Mike Pence has been my most loyal servant. Let me hand this pandemic off to him. I'm sure there are still some career civil servants in the federal government around that can help out with that, right? Hey Mike, don't fuck it up!"
I'm expecting a comprehensive prayer based approach, perhaps bolstered by some plan to use tax dollars to help people make donations to their local church. Remember the more you tithe the better your odds!
On, I just meant that I thought it was an odd choice given Pence's poor handling of HIV in Indiana, not experience as n Healthcare, and limited accomplishments (I honestly can't think of anything, but I'm biased) thus far as VP. I also can't think of many instances of President's deferring management of potentially acute crisis to VPs, but admittedly I don't think I have the historical knowledge to make a strong point either way.
Really just seems like Trump is setting up Pence as a scapegoat (which is hilarious because it's simply a reflection on Trump).
I think that's what he's hoping will happen but the odds of the American people deciding to hold Pence accountable instead of Trump seem pretty low.
Trump doesn't care about the American people. He only cares about those that attend his Nuremberg rallies--all of which already believe that Trump has eradicated the coronavirus by developing a virus solution (it's not a vaccine--because they don't believe in vaccines) in one single all-nighter of complicated smart brain science stuff and formula development. Executive time!
Like Hillary said, there is a public and private face.
Public Trump (and every world leader): Nothing to see here, keep investing in our businesses.
Private Trump: Why the fuck did you let them cross our border, State Dept, when I told you not to?
Me: Just picked up a 3M Respirator and swimming goggles. Since I'm already always prepared, we could go 6 months off my stash of dry organic beans. Which do you like better, Pinto or Black or Garbanzo?
You should get out more often and read the news. Hillary was right about public vs private face.Magnificent obfuscation & deflection. For Trumpsters, the buck always stops somewhere else. Who is this "them" the State Dept was supposed to stop? And why did the Admin deliberately cripple our ability to respond almost 2 years ago?
Elimination Of NSC Global Health Security Office Part Of National Security Adviser Bolton's Plans To Streamline Council | KFF
Washington Post: Top White House official in charge of pandemic response exits abruptly “The top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic has left the administration, and the global health security team he oversaw has been disbanded under a...www.kff.org
The Rudy principle (truth isn't truth) apparently doesn't cover all the contingencies.
So we're cool with unnamed sources now? Asking for a friend.You should get out more often and read the news. Hillary was right about public vs private face.
Trump is 'furious' about bungling Diamond Princess coronavirus evac
Trump had been told last Saturday that only evacuees who didn't have symptoms or positive test results would be allowed on State Department charter planes back to the US from Japan.www.dailymail.co.uk
and if you bring that up they will say "you are politicizing a pandemic" Truth be damned.I imagine so long as the outbreak isn't too bad Trump will just downplay it and say everything's great and he's the best ever at virus management. If it becomes too bad to ignore he will blame state and local officials in the areas worst affected, which of course would likely be cities controlled by Democrats.
The most important thing will be that at no time will he or any Republicans acknowledge that firing the whole pandemic response team might have had a role in our poor pandemic response.
Those were pretty much my thoughts, makes sense.Right. I think it's totally normal and expected to appoint someone like VPOTUS to head a team like this, and they don't really need to have much expertise in the subject--there job is essentially to manage the team and make sure communication and resources are getting where they need to go, asap, without getting in the way. Further, it's the type of thing you expect a Governor to handle pretty well. It's basically all they do.
....but then there is Pence, with an alarmingly terrible record coordinating this type of thing (which is vastly more virulent and structurally far more difficult to contain than something that is thoroughly understood, with all possible, effective protocol available, like HIV), and as you say--this being Trump, it is almost certainly for Scapegoating.
Everyone knows, without doubt, that Trump fully expects those couple of words to absolve him of any and all responsibility from that moment forward regarding coronavirus. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already forgotten that it's a thing.
Right. I think it's totally normal and expected to appoint someone like VPOTUS to head a team like this, and they don't really need to have much expertise in the subject--there job is essentially to manage the team and make sure communication and resources are getting where they need to go, asap, without getting in the way. Further, it's the type of thing you expect a Governor to handle pretty well. It's basically all they do.
....but then there is Pence, with an alarmingly terrible record coordinating this type of thing (which is vastly more virulent and structurally far more difficult to contain than something that is thoroughly understood, with all possible, effective protocol available, like HIV), and as you say--this being Trump, it is almost certainly for Scapegoating.
Everyone knows, without doubt, that Trump fully expects those couple of words to absolve him of any and all responsibility from that moment forward regarding coronavirus. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already forgotten that it's a thing.
The CDC was AGAINST bringing them back. So guess where the order had to come from to allow it? That's right executive branch. Article says it came from the State Dept. Guess who heads it? Trump is known for blaming others for his failures. I'm sure this is the case.You should get out more often and read the news. Hillary was right about public vs private face.
Trump is 'furious' about bungling Diamond Princess coronavirus evac
Trump had been told last Saturday that only evacuees who didn't have symptoms or positive test results would be allowed on State Department charter planes back to the US from Japan.www.dailymail.co.uk
Well, if Trump's goal was to settle the markets down, it apparently has been an abject failure. He queered his own news conference by contradicting his "experts" by reasserting sorta kinda that there would be no more new cases.I don't think he gives a shit about them either outside of them giving him the narcissistic supply he craves and keeping him in office. The same goes for the rest of Americans, after November he won't give a shit about them but he does care until then because they have something he wants.
That being said that's ALL he cares about so I'm very confident if he encountered a situation where large quantities of Americans would die but it would help his re-election chances he would do it without a second thought.