Corsair Vengeance K60 Review

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PRELUDE: For the last few months I have been in the market for a mechanical keyboard. I did my research and came across plenty reviews from manufacturers like, Das, Rosewille, Mionix, Filco, and IBM to name a few. Reviewers unanimously noted that mechanical key switches were the way to go, and that quality came with them, regardless of manufacturer. (excluding Razer) With that in mind I set up the criteria I was looking for.




  • Comfortable to type on (wrist rest please! also no shortened keys)

  • Relatively silent because of the roommate (no mx Blues, Alps, or bucking switch)

  • Clean look (no ricer trash)

  • Media keys, or fn equivalent

  • Backlight if possible
With that in mind I showered so my smell would not be lethal, and crept from my parents basement to the local computer store. They had 3 mechanical keyboards in stock. A Mionix Zibal 60, Razer Black Widow, and SIIG.


The first one I tried was the Mionix.




Aesthetically it was 10/10, quality felt 10/10 but I knew the Mx Blacks would be tiring considering how much I type, plus the price ($140)was little to high for my budget.


The next was the Razer Black widow ultimate Battlefield 3 edition.


That too was a letdown because of the price ($140), ricer looks, and as nice as the Mx Blues were to type on; they were simply to loud.



The SIIG was last and the simplest.




It had no media keys, wrist rest, or backlight. Despite that the White Alps were comfortable to type on and the price was perfect at $70. Unfortunately the Alps were as loud if not louder than the Mx Blues so I went home disappointed. Browsing Newegg that night I came across the pre-order of the Corsair Vengeance K-60. At $100 it was in my budget, and the non tactile MX Red keys seemed quiet enough. Furthermore it was clean looking, had media keys, and built by a company with a reputation for taking care of their customers. I waited the next few weeks to check out the upcoming reviews of it; yet not many ended up coming out. Release date came and went yet I was still apprehensive as my local hardware store didn't have it on display. Finally Christmas came, and today, the day after I went to pick it up.


Here are some picture of the unboxing and parts:







I want to keep this relatively short despite my earlier discourse. I will be discussing this keyboard on 4 different qualities. Aesthetics, Build Quality, Functionality, and Price point.



Aesthetics, this is going to be the most subjective part of the review so bear with me.



The brushed aluminum and lack of colored LEDs gives the K-60 a professional look. Appearance wise everything has an obvious function and nothing is included that serves no purpose. The styling is simple and I love that. However I find two things a bit out of line though. The single palm rest and windows key. I will talk about the palm rest more in the other sections, as for the windows key it doesn't fit the overall design. The keys, the media keys, the overall design is quite angular, yet the windows key is circular. I think it would have been better implemented in the same shape as the other media keys, yet its such a small point that its almost moot.

One big suggestion I would give to Corsair is this. Consider color. I realize you had an overall style for the Vengeance peripheral line but I think the silver color is a poor choice. Looking around my desk I don't see anything silver. My speakers are black. My computer case is black. My mouse is black. My mouse pad is black.

The bezel on my monitor is black, hell even the cords going to and from my computer are black.
I know I am not the only one with this set up. Yet this silver keyboard alone stands out of synch with this look. Corsair did a fantastic job with the styling of the 800 and 600d cases, and key to that was the BLACK brushed aluminum look. For that reason I would suggest releasing this keyboard with black aluminum as an option. Not only would it fit in better with other peripherals, but in my opinion it would look even more bad ass.

Build Quality:


As a mechanical keyboard the quality and reliability are all there. The K-60 is solid as a rock compared to most other keyboard it seems quite capable of withstanding gamers occasional fits of rage. The fact is for a keyboard this thing seems pretty much indestructible. Included in the palm rest is a key removal kit which works very well. The most impressive quality of this keyboard is the raised keys. This makes cleaning the keyboard a million times easier, and should seriously add to long term reliability.
Unfortunately this quality doesn't extend to the palm rest.




It is made out of light, thin plastic. Worse yet the clip onto the keyboard is made out of the same cheap plastic which is really disheartening. Frankly it just doesn't feel solid, and it wouldn't surprise me if that was the first part to break. As a suggestion to Corsair magnets do a wonderful job holding things together, and unlike plastic they don't break. Maybe you should try this to attach the palm rest to the body.



Next the keyboard is not 100% mechanical. The F keys, ESC, and the 9 keys including delete and insert are all standard keys. Granted most people don't use any of those keys nearly as much as others, I still find this to be detracting from the overall quality because it shows that Corsair cut corners. Furthermore I don't think I would have as much of a gripe if the Escape and Delete keys were mechanical as well. Also I knew that information before I bought the keyboard, but found it to be a decent trade off for the price. Lastly, and the most frustrating oversight was the lack of rubber on the feet used to prop the keyboard up. If you on a slipper surface the rubber pieces on bottom do a great job keeping the keyboard in place, but if you put up all the feet its like putting a Ducati on ice. I would like to see Corsair fix that in the next generation.



Lastly I find the volume up /down wheel to by seated loosely . This results in a low quality feel. I think greater resistance on that wheel would make it feel better as well as make it easier to use.



Functionality:

As far as functionality is concerned this keyboard has it all. The media keys work just how they were intended to, the keys type beautifully and I don't look like a 12 year old while I'm doing it. Even the size is just right. Nothing is wasted in this design. I do have a few complaints though. The media keys sit far lower than the rest of the keys, which results in me hitting the dash or star button on my way to them. I think this could be easily fixed by using raised media keys, or putting them up on the top by the Corsair logo. The only other advice I have is offering this board in another Cherry switch. Reds are great for what I do, but no one would complain about using this keyboard in Browns, or Blues either. In the end its all about personal preference and I think in this case variety will sell.
The fact is this keyboard works exactly as intended with few quirks. Its not perfect but its damn well near.

Price Point:

This is really the finest point of this keyboard. I picked it up for a mere $80. For what it does that is a serious bargain. If Corsair has done anything right, that is it.

Conclusion:

Corsair seriously offered it all with this keyboard. You get great looks, stupid good build quality, great functionality and an incredible price point.

If you guys have questions please ask as I know I missed some stuff.


The first three pictures are not mine, and I do not claim to own them, they are they property of their respective owners.

Update 1: I have now owned this keyboard for around 3 months and I have a few things to add.

  • First I should address the quality. So far it has help up far beyond my expectations. In multiple fits of rage I have slammed both hands down with full force on the keys, and the worst damage I have caused is popping a key off. I spilt a shot of Sailor Jerry's rum right onto the keyboard and a month later its still working (I will go into greater depth later). I have traveled extensively with it, leaving it unprotected in the trunk and again no problems.
  • Second I should speak about functionality and habits. After 3 months I can say the media keys are something you get used to. I no longer hit switches on my way to them. The FPS hand wrest thingy is absolutely useless. I picked up a $5 wrist wrest that extends full length and have never looked back. The red keys are also pretty useless, even for gaming because as soon as you want to type something you have to replace them at the risk of severe annoyance.
  • Third I would like to give an update on the looks. The silver color is bugging me even more now than it did before. Dirt accumulates on all keyboards, but the silver really shows it where black would not have. Furthermore cleaning is more of a pain than I anticipate.
  • Fourth I made the statement that the Cherry Reds were the best fit mechanical keys for an environment where noise could be an issue. I hold to this. My roommate is fine with my keyboard, and has not mentioned a complaint yet. Another thing to note is touch typing. The keys make the most noise when they bottom out, and because they are no tactile they make no noise when they register. That means that you can theoretically type without alot of the noise. So for anyone worried about noise, just know that with a little practice the worst will go away soon enough.
Maintenance: As I mentioned earlier in my drunken debauchery I spilt a full shot of rum on my keyboard. The majority of the rum fell on the left side, although it seeped across. I tipped it upside down and let the extra rum run off, and immediately unplugged it and decided that in my intoxicated state I probably would only make things worse if I attempted any repairs.



The next morning I plugged it in. Nothing. I waited another day and plugged it in again. This time I was getting glichy input. Press the k bottom and a 9 might pop up.



The next day I decided I was going to have to take it apart. Using the key cap puller offer I started by removing all the key caps. The non mechanical key caps are kinda a bitch to remove, and I stress that one takes extra care when removing as I could see them cracking.



To my memory the keyboard came apart pretty well, although I was afraid I was going to break something because of the internal plastic clip which took some convincing to get off. After that I opened it up, cleaned and dried off the inside.


I put everything back together, replaced the keys and waited another day.


I plugged it back and and tada! everything worked fine. However I had one more problem, the keys were sticky, or better said unpredictably tactile. I couldn't stand it so the next day i I took all the mechanical key caps off and carefully inserted a drop of Windex into each switch. From their I replaced all the caps and set off to typing.


As of now I only have one key, the 8 key which is still sticky, every other key types just like the first day.


Overall I would say the quality help up fantastically, although I would like to see Corsair be a little more intutive with their construction as the 20 some odd screws, tough non mechanical keycaps, and a final internal clip made taking the K60 apart a bit hairy.



MORAL OF THE STORY, DON'T DRINK AND TYPE, AND THE CORSAIR K60 IS TOUGH AS NAILS.
 
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crownjules

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I was considering this Corsair keyboard. I really liked how the keyboard was constructed with the ability to pop off the keys and be able to clean down to the backboard. With almost every other keyboard the keys are inset so if stuff does get underneath, it can be a pain to get out. With this it seemed like cleaning would be a breeze. But ultimately, I found the lack of backlit keys in this model the deciding factor in going for the Razer BW. I don't get why Corsair put it on the MMO keyboard (K90) but not this one.

I'm not sure where the Razer BlackWidow gets points off for "ricer" look. Sure, if you buy one of the special edition ones (DA2 or BF3) it comes with some game graphics and also costs more, but the base model is just black with the Razer symbol at the bottom.
 

bigbubba3

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I have no idea why they didn't backlight it, that probably would have been easier for the manufacturing process.

In comparison to most normal keyboards the Razer is actually pretty docile but in the world of mechanical it is ricer because it stands out. Most mechanical keyboards are very simple, designed for function. They are usually matte black, plain in design and the ones that have back lights, have very tame ones. Razer on the other hand is none of that which is why it gets the ricer of mechanical keyboards.
 

Puppies04

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I had my new K90 KB for christmas, I absolutely adore it. Finally I know what people mean when they say once you go mechanical you don't go back.
 

Remobz

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I had my new K90 KB for christmas, I absolutely adore it. Finally I know what people mean when they say once you go mechanical you don't go back.

k90 IS not FULLY MECHANICAL!!

Heard that there are no instruction manuals and the software can be lacking. Corsair website is not much help as well.

Please list some negatives with this KB please.
 

kami

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I like my K90 quite a bit. Also it has a backlight unlike the K60.

Downsides? Wish the wrist rest was bigger. The backlight on the few non-mechanical keys isn't as bright. I miss the hell out of the LCD on the Logitech G510. To the point where I want to find some way to gut it and still use it but that's unlikely. I got used to constantly being able to see CPU usage and network bandwidth at a glance.

The software is very simple and appears to be only for setting up the macro keys.
 

Pia

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I'm not sure where the Razer BlackWidow gets points off for "ricer" look. Sure, if you buy one of the special edition ones (DA2 or BF3) it comes with some game graphics and also costs more, but the base model is just black with the Razer symbol at the bottom.
I'd think the combination of bling finish on the plastic, attention-whore font, multicolor notifier LEDs, lit company logo, and the general focus on "cool" instead of beauty or function are entirely sufficient to call the BlackWidow Ultimate a ricer.

The Ultimate Stealth edition is also a ricer, but less so because the plastic on it doesn't look shitty. It's also the only board in the entire Razer range I'd consider using, because they actually bothered to put proper N-key rollover on it. Several of Razer's competitors recognize NKRO as a staple feature on a high-end keyboard - perhaps Razer will eventually get with the times?
 

imaheadcase

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I know lots of people who play Starcraft 2 hate the corsair because the space bar and number keys get stuck after continued use.
 

bigbubba3

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It's also the only board in the entire Razer range I'd consider using, because they actually bothered to put proper N-key rollover on it. Several of Razer's competitors recognize NKRO as a staple feature on a high-end keyboard - perhaps Razer will eventually get with the times?

To be honest a feature like NKRO would be the last thing to make a difference in my purchase. For almost every game I play I have a hand on the mouse, and a hand on the keyboard. That situation seems to be normal for 98% of gamers, and for that reason Razer has no reason to work on including it.

Furthermore if you are one of those people who would ultilize NKRO I highly doubt that a Razer would ever appeal to you above other brands like, Das, Filco, Roseville, Mionix ect
 

Pia

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To be honest a feature like NKRO would be the last thing to make a difference in my purchase. For almost every game I play I have a hand on the mouse, and a hand on the keyboard. That situation seems to be normal for 98% of gamers, and for that reason Razer has no reason to work on including it.
Actually I gamed happily on a non-NKRO board for years, but I find them unusable for working.

But beyond the immediate implications of Razer's piss-poor rollover specification, this is a case of a manufacturer of $150 keyboards cutting corners to save a buck. To me that indicates they don't care about quality in general. It lowers my expectations for the rest of the product.
Furthermore if you are one of those people who would ultilize NKRO I highly doubt that a Razer would ever appeal to you above other brands like, Das, Filco, Roseville, Mionix ect
I don't see why that would be. The reason their product has no appeal is that the product is bad. If Razer comes up with a solid board with decent value, or makes a better board than the other guys at any price, in both cases I would be interested. I have exclusively used Razer's mice for the last few years, so it's not like I have an axe to grind with the company in general.

I was also in a concrete situation where I would have bought a Razer keyboard if there had been a single decent board in the lineup. My company's purchasing dept. likes to buy local, and Razer was one of the few brands available. Rather than waste company money on crap like that, I ended up just suffering OEM keyboards until I happened to upgrade my board at home and could bring the old one to work.
 
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Puppies04

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I was taken in by all the advertising hype from razer keyboards, they have 1 maybe 2 full page spreads in the pc mags I subscribe to and their products look awsome. My lycosa broke after less than a months use and I thought hey its just one of those things that slips through QC. When the replacement (brand new unopened from the original retailer) developed exactly the same fault within 2 weeks, which btw razer have known about for litterally years and even did a product recall because of I vowed never to buy one of their keyboards again. Sad but true.

Still love my deathadder left handed mouse though, hasn't missed a beat but when I can go out and buy ten 5 button mice for the same price I expect it to.

Companys like razer put themselves on a pedestal claiming to be the best of the best and when you find out they used a 10 cent part instead of a 20 cent part or their products don't live up to their claims they have nobody to blame but themselves if people start trash talking their name.
 

Yellowbeard

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I know lots of people who play Starcraft 2 hate the corsair because the space bar and number keys get stuck after continued use.

I have not seen reports of this yet. What do you mean by "lots of people" and do you have links to any posts where I could look into this and help out if needed?
 

Remobz

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I was taken in by all the advertising hype from razer keyboards, they have 1 maybe 2 full page spreads in the pc mags I subscribe to and their products look awsome. My lycosa broke after less than a months use and I thought hey its just one of those things that slips through QC. When the replacement (brand new unopened from the original retailer) developed exactly the same fault within 2 weeks, which btw razer have known about for litterally years and even did a product recall because of I vowed never to buy one of their keyboards again. Sad but true.

Still love my deathadder left handed mouse though, hasn't missed a beat but when I can go out and buy ten 5 button mice for the same price I expect it to.

Companys like razer put themselves on a pedestal claiming to be the best of the best and when you find out they used a 10 cent part instead of a 20 cent part or their products don't live up to their claims they have nobody to blame but themselves if people start trash talking their name.


Honestly, I still cannot decide on any gaming KB yet. I mean just as I get to like one particular model and brand then as I do more and more research, I see more and more negative comments about that particular KB I might have wanted.

I have to take the plunge sometime this year. Maybe something new might be just around the corner by Razer or some other leading manufacturer?
 

Puppies04

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Honestly, I still cannot decide on any gaming KB yet. I mean just as I get to like one particular model and brand then as I do more and more research, I see more and more negative comments about that particular KB I might have wanted.

I have to take the plunge sometime this year. Maybe something new might be just around the corner by Razer or some other leading manufacturer?

Thats the problem with the internet, give me any keyboard in the world and I will find a scathing comment about it damning it to the depths of hell for being a lousy POS.

Just because I got unlucky with razer twice doesn't change the fact they sell thousands of keyboards a year that work perfectly. Hence the fact I don't run around "warning" everyone away from their products.

The only reason I refuse to buy from them anymore and shared my experience above is because I can prove that they knew this problem existed years before and had done jack about it. That is unexcusable in my book and I vote with my wallet.
 

deimos3428

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OP: Thanks for the review. I've seen a few reviews on the Corsair K60/90 but getting personal impressions is always helpful.

I already have a mechanical (a Meka G1) and while I love it I'm considering a K60 as a backup, or even a replacement if the switches are significantly quieter.

One thing I wish Corsair would change is the packaging. I went to check out the K60 first-hand the other day but even though it has a plastic window the box is completely sealed. So I can't test it out which is unfortunate as with the price of mechanicals being able to actually feel the switches is...well, key.

Razer lets you do this on the Blackwidow, and the Meka's box isn't so heavily sealed that you can't quickly pop it open and give it a test run. (I don't know about the others, but I seem to recall being able to try the Steelseries in-store as well.)

I would also like to put in a vote for an all-black version of the K60; no love for backlighting here.
 

FeuerFrei

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Thanks for the Corsair K60 review, OP. This is now on my tentative "to buy" list. I like the media control buttons - "Mute" is essential.

Heh sorry about the delay I hadn't subscribed to this thread so i didn't see your reply....



...

Sorry about the picture quality I only have my phone camera to hand.

Looks like the K90 screwed up the key layout around the Enter key. They moved "|\" from over "Enter" to below the "A" and introduced an extra key on the home row beside "Enter" that I cannot make out from the pic. Now you have to move that right pinky really far to hit "Enter".

The K60 on the other hand, has the standard key layout ...

(sorry, couldn't find a closer view.)


OR DOES IT?? - :hmm: Corsair's site (http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-k60-performance-fps-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html) shows 2 overhead shots of the K60 but WITH TWO DIFFERENT LAYOUTS. o_0


K60 Layout #2 - compare to above



Now I'm confused. Why two "\|" keys??
 
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vbuggy

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Thanks for the Corsair K60 review, OP. This is now on my tentative "to buy" list. I like the media control buttons - "Mute" is essential.



Looks like the K90 screwed up the key layout around the Enter key. They moved "|\" from over "Enter" to below the "A" and introduced an extra key on the home row beside "Enter" that I cannot make out from the pic. Now you have to move that right pinky really far to hit "Enter".

The K60 on the other hand, has the standard key layout ...

(sorry, couldn't find a closer view.)


OR DOES IT?? - :hmm: Corsair's site (http://www.corsair.com/vengeance-k60-performance-fps-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html) shows 2 overhead shots of the K60 but WITH TWO DIFFERENT LAYOUTS. o_0


K60 Layout #2 - compare to above



Now I'm confused. Why two "\|" keys??

Standard US vs Intl US?
 
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Awaiting the K60. Coming from a Steelseries 6Gv2 which has been plagued with activating keys while not being compressed. ...Very odd. I'll be in the middle of dodging and my bound key for a different weapon will activate. Or i'll moving forward via the W key and the Tab key will activate causing the in-game console to show up. I hope it's a keyboard problem and the K60 solves it. I've gone through 1 RMA with Steelseries and am just about to send the RMA New 7G replacement back for the same issue. Love the Cherry MX Black switches so i'll familiar with the feel of the Reds, only being a little easier to activate.
 
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