Cosmonaut Crashed Into Earth 'Crying In Rage' NSFW

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Nik

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I highly disagree and at least there tougher than anyone on this forum.

You don't even know the difference between their they're and there. What do you know?

The Russians are hearty people but they were so taxed by their oppressive military government for taxes that other programs had no money to operate properly -including their space program.

The Russians DID build shoddy space ships because they didn't have the freaking money to do it right and they didn't have leadership with the patience to properly research before pushing men into space for the glory of their country even if it meant their deaths.

Hell, Russia has lost men on space walks that were moving fast enough to escape the earth's gravity and have simply floated off never to be seen again. The United States has never lost anyone in space. All of ours were lost on the launch pad during that era and it wasn't until decades later that we lost the entire shuttle and decades after that we lost another. We've still lost a HUGE number fewer than the Russians in our respective countries' attempts.
 

slayer202

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another classy thread by techs. the i love you thread wasn't enough to get him out of here?
 

Macamus Prime

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Poor guy indeed.

Imagine all the other deaths that have occured in the past because people just didn't know anything. Electrical workers wouldn't even wear equipment in the beginning.
 

0roo0roo

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Russians are notorious for building crappy products. I'm really surprised they actually made it up into space.

it wasn't their crappy products, it was their seriously disfunctional society, based on fear and corruption that really messed sh*t up.
 

wwswimming

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great (and sad) piece of history.

thanks for bringing it up.

maybe AT Forums should have a History section.
 

ichy

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The Russians DID build shoddy space ships because they didn't have the freaking money to do it right and they didn't have leadership with the patience to properly research before pushing men into space for the glory of their country even if it meant their deaths.

Komarov was killed because they were trying to rush his flight so that it would happen in time for some stupid communist anniversary. In some ways it was the same sort of reason that the Challenger astronauts were killed. Had to have the positive PR from the idiotic Teacher in Space program :disgust:
 

ichy

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Yup, my bad... I was looking at it as while the USSR was still in existence.

There was obviously no "official" end to the space race, but the ASTP missions (Apollo-Soyuz) are generally considered its conclusion and the beginning of Detente in space.
 

Aharami

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sad but fascinating story!

the space race was over for more than 15 years when the challenger was lost.

I'm reluctant to bring this up as I know I'll get flamed even though I dont believe in the Moon landing conspiracy stories, but was there ever an official explanation why the flag is looking like it is waving in the wind?
 

Linflas

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Komarov was killed because they were trying to rush his flight so that it would happen in time for some stupid communist anniversary. In some ways it was the same sort of reason that the Challenger astronauts were killed. Had to have the positive PR from the idiotic Teacher in Space program :disgust:

That really is a stretch. They were really killed indirectly by our record of excellence in space. We had been so successful that even when things went very wrong such as Apollo 13 we could still manage to "get them home". That was the main findings of the investigations into the Challenger accident. NASA was aware there were issues with the O rings but did not consider it a serious enough issue to down the program and ignored the few voices telling them otherwise. The fact that we were sending a teacher up on the shuttle shows how routine both NASA and the public in general had come to view space flight by the mid 80's.
 

Nik

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Komarov was killed because they were trying to rush his flight so that it would happen in time for some stupid communist anniversary. In some ways it was the same sort of reason that the Challenger astronauts were killed. Had to have the positive PR from the idiotic Teacher in Space program :disgust:

Right, that's what it says right in the article. I read it too. Linflas is right about the last bit of your message, though.
 

skyking

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I'm reluctant to bring this up as I know I'll get flamed even though I dont believe in the Moon landing conspiracy stories, but was there ever an official explanation why the flag is looking like it is waving in the wind?
Take a close look. There is a rod along the top to present the flag as though it was flying.
 

Born2bwire

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sad but fascinating story!


I'm reluctant to bring this up as I know I'll get flamed even though I dont believe in the Moon landing conspiracy stories, but was there ever an official explanation why the flag is looking like it is waving in the wind?

The flag is held out by a rod that runs along the top. You can see it quite clearly in the picture. So the "flapping" of the flag is due to the fact that the flag was not straightened out perfectly. It would be more telling from the video footage of the planting of the flag. The flag only moves in response to the manipulations of the astronaut or from movement transmitted by the pole and rod.
 

ichy

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That really is a stretch. They were really killed indirectly by our record of excellence in space. We had been so successful that even when things went very wrong such as Apollo 13 we could still manage to "get them home". That was the main findings of the investigations into the Challenger accident. NASA was aware there were issues with the O rings but did not consider it a serious enough issue to down the program and ignored the few voices telling them otherwise. The fact that we were sending a teacher up on the shuttle shows how routine both NASA and the public in general had come to view space flight by the mid 80's.

NASA management may have drank the kool-aid about spaceflight being "routine," but the engineers and astronauts knew better. I read an interview with Barbara Morgan (Christa McAullif's backup) where she described how after the two of them had been chosen Dick Scobee (the commander of Challenger's ill-fated mission) had a very frank discussion with them about the dangers of flying into space.

Richard Feynman's criticism of NASA when he was on the Rogers Commission is also worth reading. NASA had created a culture that normalized problems. Back in the early days of the space program if something didn't perform as expected it was fixed. Delays were accepted because they were realistic about working with highly experimental systems. By the time of the Challenger disaster the culture had changed. If something didn't work properly (such as an O-ring) but it didn't cause a catastrophe that abnormal performance often was simply accepted as the new norm.
 

Aharami

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Take a close look. There is a rod along the top to present the flag as though it was flying.

yes, the straight rod at the top is holding up the flag. But the bottom of the flag looks like it is waving in the wind. Why?
 

Nik

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yes, the straight rod at the top is holding up the flag. But the bottom of the flag looks like it is waving in the wind. Why?

Have you ever wiggled free-floating fabric in space?

NO, FABRIC STAYS ROCK SOLID RIGID IN SPACE EVEN WHEN YOU MOVE IT AROUND LIKE SAY MOUNT IT ON THE POLE AND TAKE IT OUT AND STICK IT IN THE GROUND, DUH!! IT DOESN'T MOVE AT ALL!! EVER! FOR ANY REASON!!

 
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Have you ever wiggled free-floating fabric in space?

NO, FABRIC STAYS ROCK SOLID RIGID IN SPACE EVEN WHEN YOU MOVE IT AROUND LIKE SAY MOUNT IT ON THE POLE AND TAKE IT OUT AND STICK IT IN THE GROUND, DUH!! IT DOESN'T MOVE AT ALL!! EVER! FOR ANY REASON!!


The Conspiracry guys know this. As thye were secretly on the moon when the landings supposidly happened and they didn't see anything.
 

techs

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another classy thread by techs. the i love you thread wasn't enough to get him out of here?

Have you looked in the mirror lately and tried to figure out why other peoples behaviour which has no effect on you bothers you so much?

You could easily just ignore my threads, but you KEEP posting in them.

Seriously, you need to ask yourself why you are obsessed with other peoples actions.
 
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