Cost of flying based on weight?

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Foxery

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wow not only do fat people have to deal with looking ridiculous now they'll have to pay more to fly? Bummer.

Winner :thumbsup: Except for the detail that fat people clearly don't care what they look like.

Next step: Installing mirrors on seatbacks for all public transportation.
 
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Originally posted by: marvdmartian
Here's an idea. Get rid of the arm rests, and let extra fat people sit next to extra skinny ones! It balances out that way, and everyone fits!!

I hope to the ATOT gods this is sarcastic.... If not I hope your next flight you have to sit between to 400+ lb people that havn't showered and sweat profusely.
 

Riverhound777

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Hmmm well hopefully it only gets really expensive for really fat people. While I'm not fat, I am 6' 180lbs and gaining as I workout. I use to be 145
 
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Originally posted by: cubeless
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Weeeeee, cheaper tickets for me.


not... only cheaper than for me... i ain't fat and i weigh 250 lbs... there will be some kind of 'overweight' surcharge... short fat people will probably slip by... just means i'll have another thing to think about for pleasure flight, but won't make any difference in my business travel...

What happens if business choose to not employ you in a travel job because you cost them more, because you weigh more? What happens then?
 

rivan

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While I can see some financial sense in this, I'm against it because I'm on the "going to get charged" end of the scale. I'm 6'5" and built like a refrigerator. When I was super-skinny in high school, I was still at 240. 260/265 is a good weight for me, and I'm at 280 now.

You guys are pretending it's only the 'fatties' that will be impacted by this - well if I was 280 but only 5'6" I'd be a 'fatty' - as it stands I just have a belly.

My shoulders are so wide that I don't fit into airline seats, stadium seats and most other 'normal-people' sized seats. My arms hang over both armrests but it's got nothing to do with my weight. If I'm going to be charged based on my size, I don't see how it would be unreasonable to demand seating that's "my size".
 

E equals MC2

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Originally posted by: rivan
While I can see some financial sense in this, I'm against it because I'm on the "going to get charged" end of the scale. I'm 6'5" and built like a refrigerator. When I was super-skinny in high school, I was still at 240. 260/265 is a good weight for me, and I'm at 280 now.

You guys are pretending it's only the 'fatties' that will be impacted by this - well if I was 280 but only 5'6" I'd be a 'fatty' - as it stands I just have a belly.

My shoulders are so wide that I don't fit into airline seats, stadium seats and most other 'normal-people' sized seats. My arms hang over both armrests but it's got nothing to do with my weight. If I'm going to be charged based on my size, I don't see how it would be unreasonable to demand seating that's "my size".

blame god.
 

PKPunk

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I wonder how this will affect corporate travel. My company pays for Coach fares for all of our business trips and if we want we can upgrade to business class if we pay the difference ourselves. I wonder If something like this went into affect would my company change their policy to say something like "we only pay for the first 200 pounds" then your on your own. Could something like this cause discrimination in the work place when they have to hire people for positions that require heavy traveling?
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Weeeeee, cheaper tickets for me.

who said they'd be cheaper? you'd just be paying less than a fat person, not less than you do now.

Exactly! If it were fair, then people lighter than the median weight should pay less than they would now. However, they'll probably put a fat tax on everyone over 200 lbs. while charging the exact same for everyone under 200 lbs.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but I don't see how it will help lighter people unless it keeps the chair-and-a-half flyers out of the skies (and their fat out of my seat). They should introduce it as a fuel tax that would have to be added to everyone's ticket but will instead be charged double for those of a certain weight.
 

marvdmartian

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Originally posted by: Imaginer
Originally posted by: marvdmartian
Here's an idea. Get rid of the arm rests, and let extra fat people sit next to extra skinny ones! It balances out that way, and everyone fits!!

I know you are being sarcastic but if that were to happen, I'd show hell to those companies. The skinny guys would get squished! :Q

Hey, at least I didn't say, "Put the skinnies on first, then let the fatties sit on their laps!!!" :shocked: :laugh:
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Lola
Score for me!
I am by no means annorexic, however, my old jeep had automatic "on" passenger air bags. When I sat there, it did not turn on.

wtf, that sensor is faulty.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Old news - big people have been paying for two seats for quite some time now.

Yes really big folks that cannot fit in a single seat. This is more like freight though. You pay by size of box and its weight when you use UPS, DHL, etc.

Imagine buying tickets online and you pay a fare. This fare would be based on a baseline weight - 150 pounds for females and 200 pounds for males. If one is over those established limits their charges are adjusted accordingly at check-in. That is definitely different than what it is now.

 

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Lifer
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How would you ever advance purchase a ticket with this method?

Go to expedia.com, buy your vacation tickets, enter your current weight, gain/lose some weight, go to airport, get weighed again, pay new rate?

I don't see it happening.
 

HammerCurl

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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Baked
That's racist against all the fatties. I smell class action lawsuits.

racist against fatties?

Fatism is a race, didn't you get the memo?

Fatism=religion/belief system. Some fat races= Fatorican, Fatenese, Fatish, Fatalian, Fative American
 

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: her209
That's discrimination!

fat people are not a protected class

Actually, they are to a degree. Obesity has been labeled as disease, there are protections against discriminating against people with medical conditions.

Try building a staircase w/o wheel chair access in a public-use facility. Try building a parking lot w/o handicap spots.

Wouldn't surprise me to see a class action lawsuit forcing airlines to have special seats for obese people. Just like handicap spots.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: her209
That's discrimination!

fat people are not a protected class

Actually, they are to a degree. Obesity has been labeled as disease, there are protections against discriminating against people with medical conditions.

Try building a staircase w/o wheel chair access in a public-use facility. Try building a parking lot w/o handicap spots.

Wouldn't surprise me to see a class action lawsuit forcing airlines to have special seats for obese people. Just like handicap spots.

Ya this is a really slippery slope. There is a lot of material for the right lawyer to go to town on with this one. I don't think airlines are going to be able to enforce this.
 

Skiddex

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Originally posted by: rivan
While I can see some financial sense in this, I'm against it because I'm on the "going to get charged" end of the scale. I'm 6'5" and built like a refrigerator. When I was super-skinny in high school, I was still at 240. 260/265 is a good weight for me, and I'm at 280 now.

You guys are pretending it's only the 'fatties' that will be impacted by this - well if I was 280 but only 5'6" I'd be a 'fatty' - as it stands I just have a belly.

My shoulders are so wide that I don't fit into airline seats, stadium seats and most other 'normal-people' sized seats. My arms hang over both armrests but it's got nothing to do with my weight. If I'm going to be charged based on my size, I don't see how it would be unreasonable to demand seating that's "my size".

same boat..almost exactly.
 

JTsyo

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If you look at the physics of flying you would realize that this doesn't make much sense. The weight of the passengers is just a small part of the overall weight. Also the weight comes into play mostly when you're accelerating. Once you're in steady flight, it's the drag of the plane that you need to overcome. Now weight is indirectly related to drag since you need to fly faster to create more lift for a heavier plane but that's going to be a real small change.

Making extra big people buy two tickets makes sense but ticket prices based on weights don't.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: JTsyo
Making extra big people buy two tickets makes sense but ticket prices based on weights don't.
Not really when you look at it compared to handicap spots. The business has to provide these premium spots at their cost. You don't think those spots at the front of the store are free do you?

Apply that to airlines and obese people and you'd have set number of wider seats provided at no additional charge to the customer. Probably at the front of the plane (aka 1st class) where there's already wider seats...
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: JTsyo
Making extra big people buy two tickets makes sense but ticket prices based on weights don't.
Not really when you look at it compared to handicap spots. The business has to provide these premium spots at their cost. You don't think those spots at the front of the store are free do you?

Apply that to airlines and obese people and you'd have set number of wider seats provided at no additional charge to the customer. Probably at the front of the plane (aka 1st class) where there's already wider seats...

Wait, are you saying that airlines should provide wider seats to fat people free of charge? Are you comparing fat people to handicapped people? Some fat people have a medical excuse, but most are just fat.
 
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