*High five*I propose the Mods give you the custom title of "Mr. Honest ATM Guy"
i wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
saying it's less ethical because the mistake is more costly to the person who couldn't be bothered to do their job correctly, even when their job doesn't involve math at all, is pretty silly. figuring how much change to give you? i could call that first grade math or something, but that's not a job req, the register tells them that. some even tell what bills to give or autodispense change. all they had to do, at maximum, was count out dollars and get somewhere close with the coins.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
sigh, why do i have to 'overexplain' everything?
the register totals everything, adds taxes. you tell it what they gave you. it tells you the proper change. this is 90% of the cashier's work done for them.
assuming it is NOT a newer model that automatically dispenses money (lots of grocery stores around here do the cash by hand but the register has a coin mech, for example), all they have to do is find the stuff in the drawer that adds up the total they are given.
yes, to be completely asinine about semantics, that means they do some addition...only most people don't. it's more of a 'i need to give him 75 cents, which is 3 quarters' kind of automatic reflex. or it should be, after they've worked there for, like, a day. if the guy has to examine the values on the coins and do long division, punch him in the face.
I've been burned in this situation before. I accidently left a major chain store without paying for an item. I went back inside to pay for it and was treated like a criminal.
I explained my situation to the guy at the door when I walked back inside (since I was walking back in with an item). Well.... long story short: security got called, I got dragged into some office, the cops got called, and I got banned from the store. I could go into more detail, but I've told the story more times than I'd care to.
What I don't get is your point? What are you trying to prove by showing that cashiers should not be making mistakes?
MotionMan
erm...the whole argument about 'you should correct their mistakes because a light till will get money taken out of their check' thing?
geez old man.
edit: also going back, 'i wish to subscribe to your newsletter' was not intended as sarcasm. i was stating agreement. perhaps that is the confusion.
But, in the situation we have been discussing, that is EXACTLY what "I" tried to do, but was rebuffed.
How much effort should "I" put forth to correct the cashier AND the manager?
MotionMan
DO YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE WORDS, THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?!
the answer to your question, imo, is 'none.'
i've been burned in this situation before. I accidently left a major chain store without paying for an item. I went back inside to pay for it and was treated like a criminal.
I explained my situation to the guy at the door when i walked back inside (since i was walking back in with an item). Well.... Long story short: Security got called, i got dragged into some office, the cops got called, and i got banned from the store. I could go into more detail, but i've told the story more times than i'd care to.
Was at McDonald's the other day, order came to $14.55, i give the clerk a $20.00 bill, she gives me back $10.45. Not paying any attention, i go sit down and eat my food. After i realize she gave me back to much money, i go back to the cashier and try to explain. The manager comes over, looks at the receipt with the clerk.. they both look baffled. She opens the cash draw and hands me another $10.00 bill. At this point, i said fuck it, finished my meal and left.
Was at McDonald's the other day, order came to $14.55, i give the clerk a $20.00 bill, she gives me back $10.45. Not paying any attention, i go sit down and eat my food. After i realize she gave me back to much money, i go back to the cashier and try to explain. The manager comes over, looks at the receipt with the clerk.. they both look baffled. She opens the cash draw and hands me another $10.00 bill. At this point, i said fuck it, finished my meal and left.
Just today at Trader Joes they accidently forgot to ring up two avocados (rang it up as one at $1.79). Only noticed when I got home, my joy was short lived when I realized that somewhere along the way the package of deli ham somehow disappeared. So I'm behind $1.79-$2.59=80 cents. I still have no idea what happened to the ham as I clearly saw it go into my bag
In this situation, "I" discovered the mistake, went back to the cashier to try to correct the problem and hit an intelligence roadblock.
Maybe I should take out a pen and easel and start teaching them 1st grade math? Should I call the cops and insist they force the cashier and manager to take back the money?
"I" did the ethical thing and was rebuffed. How is that unethical? How much effort do you think would be appropriate?
Do you think you should use the same amount of effort to return $10 as you would to return $10,000?
MotionMan
It fell out of the bag in the car and is now under the seat. You probably won't read this reply, but you'll figure out the answer in, ohhhh, about a week.
sigh, why do i have to 'overexplain' everything?
this has never happened to me.
Ive done this once also.
The manager just laughed at me telling me what i was so preoccupied about, as i pointed to 5 kids (i was child sitting) running amuk in the store.
They let me pay for it and he just laughed it off..
that store manager had a grudge against you.... probably raciest IMO.
The cops probably sat there going WTF??? u guys filing when he came back himself turned himself in and said he would pay for it?
For anybody who cares. I went to Costco the other day and returned the extra chair to the return services counter. The rep was asking me for my membership card and I just told him that I'm returning it 'cause the cashier forgot to charge me for the 3rd one.
I've been burned in this situation before. I accidently left a major chain store without paying for an item. I went back inside to pay for it and was treated like a criminal.
I explained my situation to the guy at the door when I walked back inside (since I was walking back in with an item). Well.... long story short: security got called, I got dragged into some office, the cops got called, and I got banned from the store. I could go into more detail, but I've told the story more times than I'd care to.