Could AMD "Polaris" be what the Fury X was suppose to be?

thehotsung8701A

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I believe Polaris will be release before Pascal and it give me high hope that my dream of a triple monitor gaming setup is still coming to fruition.

I have to go with AMD because Nvidia doesn't care about triple monitoring. I just want to go triple monitoring so bad. I don't want to settle for 21:9.
 

wege12

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Polaris will no doubt be a substantial improvement over the Fury X. However, the hate towards Fury X somewhat baffles me. At stock clocks, it is extremely comparable to the 980ti in performance. Not to mention that it is much better suited for DX12 and VR than the 980ti.

I could be biased as a own a Fury X, but I believe it is a very respectable card.
 
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@wege12

It's practically crap at 1080p.

Okay at 1440p.

Too weak for 4K despite decent performance. You really need 2 GPU for 4K.

And low OC potential compared to the 980Ti.

When NV overclocks better, overclocking is THE metric.

Back during the 7800 and 7900 series, those SKUs often did 50% OC, but "overclocking is a niche" apparently.

Still, Fury X has no excuse being priced close to custom 980Ti that's 20% faster out of the box.
 

wege12

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It's practically crap at 1080p. I wouldn't say its crap. I've been able to run every game I've played so far at max settings 60 fps. However, the 980ti is better due to its stronger front end.

Okay at 1440p. "Okay" is underselling it a bit. Its great at 1440p. Fury X trades blows with 980ti at this resolution.

Too weak for 4K despite decent performance. You really need 2 GPU for 4K. This is absolutely true, but the same is also said for the 980ti.

And low OC potential compared to the 980Ti. No arguement here. I'm only able to obtain a 13% OC on mine.

When NV overclocks better, overclocking is THE metric. I disagree here because even if most buyers of flagship cards OC, there are still some who won't. Plus no two GPUs OC the same. So everyone who purchases a flagship will automatically get stock clock performance. It's a variable whether or not the user OC's and/or how high they can OC.

I'm not saying OC'ing abilities shouldn't be compared, because they should. But IMHO, stock clocks should always be the metric as its guaranteed everyone will receive that level of performance.


Back during the 7800 and 7900 series, those SKUs often did 50% OC, but "overclocking is a niche" apparently. Those cards were released at lower clocks to begin with. Also, GCN is more dense, with hardware designed for DX12, which is a negative when it comes to OC'ing.

Still, Fury X has no excuse being priced close to custom 980Ti that's 20% faster out of the box. I believe the Fury X is now less expensive when looking at its MSRP. I think its also worth mentioning how much more capital Nvidia has compared to AMD to invest in R/D. This puts AMD at a disadvantage from the get go which, to me, makes the Fury X all that more respectable.

Of course, all of this is my opinion and is up for debate

My reply is above in bold ^^
 
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LTC8K6

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If Polaris is what FuryX was supposed to be, then it seems like AMD would still be one step behind NV with Polaris.
 

KingFatty

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Stop dreaming about triple monitor gaming and just do it. Do you have the monitors ready to go already, or are you waiting to buy them? Buy now and tinker around with them on your current card(s), then enjoy the boost later when you buy a new card. Do it, you know you want to.
 

Madpacket

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Triple monitor setups are a pain. With ultra-wide screen monitors at 21:9 ratio replace the need for them so there's no reason to go with triple monitors other than cost. The bezels alone make gaming other than racing or maybe FPS a pain. Just my 2 cents.
 

thehotsung8701A

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Polaris will no doubt be a substantial improvement over the Fury X. However, the hate towards Fury X somewhat baffles me. At stock clocks, it is extremely comparable to the 980ti in performance. Not to mention that it is much better suited for DX12 and VR than the 980ti.

I could be biased as a own a Fury X, but I believe it is a very respectable card.

The problem I have with it is it was suppose to beat the GTX 980ti since it was release afterward and also cost less as well like most AMD product compare to their Nvidia counter-part and sadly that was not the case with the Fury X. It was worst and it didn't cost much less.
 

Madpacket

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@wege12

It's practically crap at 1080p.

Okay at 1440p.

Too weak for 4K despite decent performance. You really need 2 GPU for 4K.

And low OC potential compared to the 980Ti.

When NV overclocks better, overclocking is THE metric.

Back during the 7800 and 7900 series, those SKUs often did 50% OC, but "overclocking is a niche" apparently.

Still, Fury X has no excuse being priced close to custom 980Ti that's 20% faster out of the box.

No doubt the 980Ti is a superior card, as it should be because it costs more money. The funny thing though is the Fury X had a bad launch (surprise AMD!) but has closed the gap in non overclocked scenarios. Also two of them scale better and being water cooled they're generally much easier to add to typical gaming cases. 980 Ti's in SLI (unless you buy the much more expensive water-cooled versions) are much harder to keep cool.
 

Madpacket

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I believe Polaris will be release before Pascal and it give me high hope that my dream of a triple monitor gaming setup is still coming to fruition.

I have to go with AMD because Nvidia doesn't care about triple monitoring. I just want to go triple monitoring so bad. I don't want to settle for 21:9.

What's your issue with 21:9 monitors? Why would want to deal with bezels? The only real advantage may be with a PLP setup but those are are expensive and a pain to setup.
 

xthetenth

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I'll be honest I kind of want a Fury X just for the ludicrously sexy cooler. And Fury X at $625 vs. a top cooler 980Ti at $700 is pushing in on being viable especially if you value the Fury X as a curio.

Triple monitor setups are a pain. With ultra-wide screen monitors at 21:9 ratio replace the need for them so there's no reason to go with triple monitors other than cost. The bezels alone make gaming other than racing or maybe FPS a pain. Just my 2 cents.

That reminds me, I want to see if my computer chokes on running Vermintide on low @ 2560+3440+2560x1440. That's one of the very few games I'd consider playing on more than the middle screen.
 

thehotsung8701A

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What's your issue with 21:9 monitors? Why would want to deal with bezels? The only real advantage may be with a PLP setup but those are are expensive and a pain to setup.

I have no issue with it other than that it widescreen viewing distance is not wide/long enough for my taste. Imagine having all of your peripheral vision block by the gaming monitor. With Triple Monitoring, I can also open 3 full web pages/documents and be 3X as productive as I am now. I can have tab galore and I'll never miss a single deal on slickdeals

Also I am extremely interested in racing games and triple monitor changes the way I view games. I also have a picnic table that can fit 3 24 or 27 inches 1080p monitor side by side with room to spare.

Though of course if we are talking about 21:9, we are talking about 1440p and not 1080p and I never seen a 1440p display ever so it an interesting proposition. Triple monitoring is a pain to setup that is why I would only go triple monitoring if I buy an AMD card.
 

Headfoot

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I love my triple monitor set up. I have a very small bezels on my monitors, they just fade out of your mental perception when you game since the side monitors are peripheral anyways. Thick bezels do pull you out of immersion. 21:9 isnt close to how wide triple monitor is which is good and bad. For games that support it, triple is extremely immersive. Star Wars Battlefront for example is fantastic on triple. Fallout games on the other hand are nearly impossible to get fully functional without glitches and bugs even after modding it to try and get it to work (fuzzy terminal text...)
 

MrTeal

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Why not compromise? Triple curved 21:9 monitors.

Too bad you can't get 34" 1440p 21:9 monitors with a tighter curve. Something with a 1m or 1.5m curve would be intense.
 

james1701

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I picked up the sapphire fury last week. I love this card running my PLP triple setup. Just hooked it up and the the switch. A few games don't work well, but games like crysis 3 look fantastic on medium settings running 70+ fps at 4960x1600. The sapphire cooler is bananas. Way better than the windforce cooler on my gigabyte cards
 

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If Polaris is what FuryX was supposed to be, then it seems like AMD would still be one step behind NV with Polaris.

Considering we're wondering if Pascal is going to have support for DX12 and Vulkan that GCN has offered for years I'm not sure what metric you are basing AMD being behind on. Overclocking?
 

BurnItDwn

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Triple monitor setups are a pain. With ultra-wide screen monitors at 21:9 ratio replace the need for them so there's no reason to go with triple monitors other than cost. The bezels alone make gaming other than racing or maybe FPS a pain. Just my 2 cents.

I havent had too much trouble with my R290 on 3x cheap 21.5 inch 1080p monitors ... (used pair of 6870s prior to that) ...

That said, I mostly play strategy type games where a single 4K display would be better ..

And, sadly, mostly I play on my home theater PC since I like the 106 inch screen @ 1080p over the little monitors ...
 

exar333

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I find myself more productive with a single 21:9 1440P setup vs. 3x1200P displays. A single display is more flexible and less headaches with apps for strecthing, etc. With 4K displays in the mainstream, a dual is as far as I would go personally.
 

xthetenth

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I love my triple monitor set up. I have a very small bezels on my monitors, they just fade out of your mental perception when you game since the side monitors are peripheral anyways. Thick bezels do pull you out of immersion. 21:9 isnt close to how wide triple monitor is which is good and bad. For games that support it, triple is extremely immersive. Star Wars Battlefront for example is fantastic on triple. Fallout games on the other hand are nearly impossible to get fully functional without glitches and bugs even after modding it to try and get it to work (fuzzy terminal text...)

Now I want to see what happens if I turn on eyefinity, get that mod that makes the graphics look super amazing and crank everything to the moon. I bet I'll get a great screenshot after the minute it takes to render.

Why not compromise? Triple curved 21:9 monitors.

Too bad you can't get 34" 1440p 21:9 monitors with a tighter curve. Something with a 1m or 1.5m curve would be intense.

16:9s flanking a 21:9 is really really wide. Like turn your chair to look at the flank screens wide. I don't think I'd recommend that without a few very specific characteristics for use cases. If I didn't do a few things where I flip back and forth between four or five different documents in the span of a minute, I'd probably give the 16:9s away because they aren't worth the space on my poor overfilled desk. One second screen next to the ultrawide is nice for reading while gaming though.
 
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digitaldurandal

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What's your issue with 21:9 monitors? Why would want to deal with bezels? The only real advantage may be with a PLP setup but those are are expensive and a pain to setup.

So, I have a triple monitor setup, and there is not much comparison between it and a 21:9 screen. Although there are advantages to having one screen you are talking about having 1.33x as much horizontal viewing distance vs 3x horizontal viewing distance.

You basically want the 3 monitor setup to cover your peripheral and while i think 21:9 is a great move and likely way more immersive it is not going to be the same as having complete peripheral view. The bezels are distracting at first but if you play you will see that you should never really actively focus on the edge monitors, you see movement in them and move your mouse in that direction to look just like you would turn your head in real life.

I will say that I have had triple monitor setup with both AMD and NV setups and the differences were minimal between them.

I've used 3 monitors since like gtx 570 days at this point, the only thing stopping you from using them is yourself.
 

LTC8K6

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Considering we're wondering if Pascal is going to have support for DX12 and Vulkan that GCN has offered for years I'm not sure what metric you are basing AMD being behind on. Overclocking?

I just explained what I meant, I didn't say it was correct.
 

xthetenth

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I will say that I have had triple monitor setup with both AMD and NV setups and the differences were minimal between them.

Do note that heterogenous monitor mixes don't work on NV and work fine on AMD. My 2560+3440+2560x1440 was treated as if the middle screen was 2560x1440 by NV Surround, which was actually nauseating. PLP and other setups would likely be in the same boat.
 
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