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Lifer
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And the funny thing about public garages...The locals never like them. They take up space, make a lot of noise, and end up being un-attractive. Makes their property value go down.

It's a nightmare to try to get approval from the local government for a plot for such use.

For instance, my work facility wants to put up a fence up front for security reasons. Simple? No. The local government want's us to beautify the fence with shrubs and flowers. Of course we can't use trees because people will use the trees to climb over the fence.

You'd be surprised from all the bureaucratic non-sense. Though I do agree with most of it as fair is fair. I wouldn't want to live next to a facility that look like it houses the next nuclear-bunker-buster weapon, would you?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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And did he ever return?
No, he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned.
He may ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston
He's the man who never returned.
 

Accipiter22

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Originally posted by: gooseman
Well, living a couple thousand miles from Boston I was able to find this pretty quickly. Look HERE . It clearly shows a few stops at BU. Quick whinning and do a little research.

wtf does that shit even mean??? everyone here points to maps saying it's on the green line, but everyone I talk to up at BU says the green line takes over an hour to get to Boston from say, Newton and that the commuter rail takes even longer.
 

Accipiter22

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Jesus Christ, I'm on a tight schedule though, the trip can't take longer than 20-25 minutes. Plus wtf are C & D & B lines?!?!?! I thought it was the green line? Ugh this city blows already.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: ironwing
And did he ever return?
No, he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned.
He may ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston
He's the man who never returned.
You, my friend, made what was once a worthless, moronic thread somewhat worthwhile to read.

:beer:
 

aceO07

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I'd suggest editing your post to remove certain words...

To get around boston, look at the google maps. Zoom into the area you want to get to, and see what train stations are around there. Also look at the system maps on the mbta.com website. The only train to BU is the B green line.

If you think Boston public transportation is confusing, try NYC.
 

DeviousTrap

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: gooseman
Well, living a couple thousand miles from Boston I was able to find this pretty quickly. Look HERE . It clearly shows a few stops at BU. Quick whinning and do a little research.</end quote></div>

wtf does that shit even mean??? everyone here points to maps saying it's on the green line, but everyone I talk to up at BU says the green line takes over an hour to get to Boston from say, Newton and that the commuter rail takes even longer.

You can't possibly be serious. The T is a really simple system. The Green/Blue/Orange/Red lines are designed to cover the "greater boston area". They'll bring you from any part of downtown boston, to any neighborhood surrounding downtown, and any point in between. If you live farther than that you can rely either on buses or the commuter rail.

Newton is a suburb, it's not part of Boston, nor is it really that close. Like most other BU and BC college students you should be looking into the brighton/allston area so that you can have that 20 minute commute that you want.
 

gooseman

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: gooseman
Well, living a couple thousand miles from Boston I was able to find this pretty quickly. Look HERE . It clearly shows a few stops at BU. Quick whinning and do a little research.</end quote></div>

wtf does that shit even mean??? everyone here points to maps saying it's on the green line, but everyone I talk to up at BU says the green line takes over an hour to get to Boston from say, Newton and that the commuter rail takes even longer.


Apparently it means you are an idiot. F@ck man, read your own damn post. You clearly asked for a T line that runs near BU. Well, it's the damn green line like everyone here is telling you. Sh!t, do you want us to find you a damn apartment too? I suppose you would like us all to pony up to a paypal account to help out with the rent too.
 

keird

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Originally posted by: Savij
Based on the criteria given in the OP, I suggest living here: http://www.archstoneapartments...ton_Common/default.htm

$2,550 for an efficiency? More than double that for the monthly rent of a 3-bedroom apartment. That you suggested it to a student that can't figure our which lines to take is pretty humorous. Maybe a child that's headed to school on the same train with him will con him with some 419 scam.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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The green line is the only T line that runs pass BU. Heck, not a single other line even goes near BU. Gosh, you really can't be very bright.
 

Tommouse

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Alright, I gotta know how the hell did you make it into college if you can't figure this out?

Ok lets lay this out.
Step 1, find BU. Google map for Boston University
Whoaaa, looky there you see 3 T stations running right along side. So take one, or all of those stations and use your memory, or if you must write it down. Take this new knowledge to the MBTA website.

Step 2, look at map for BU anything or kenmore. System Map
Wow, found it, not too hard.

Step 3, Investigate green line as thats where BU is. Green Line
There are 3 stops with BU in the freaking name!

And if you really wanted to commute from Newton, which would be stupid btw, you would take the D into kenmore and either walk to BU or then take the B line out to BU. Or the commuter rail is an option.

Helpful tip: Use google earth, you can turn on the overlay for the T, then when you lookup the location of an apt from craigslist you can use the path measure tool to see how long the actual walk would be to the T, not just "as the crow flies."


 

CanOWorms

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Jesus Christ, I'm on a tight schedule though, the trip can't take longer than 20-25 minutes. Plus wtf are C & D & B lines?!?!?! I thought it was the green line? Ugh this city blows already.

The Green line sort of splits into multiple lines lettered B, C, D, E. Just look at a map of the T. It's not difficult.

map at mbta.com
 

BeauJangles

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Jesus Christ, I'm on a tight schedule though, the trip can't take longer than 20-25 minutes. Plus wtf are C & D & B lines?!?!?! I thought it was the green line? Ugh this city blows already.
</end quote></div>

The Green line splits into four different lines. Three travel west through Allston / Brighton / Brookline / Newton, the other (the E) travels south down Huntington Avenue.

IMPORTANT: The B,C,D lines split (going outbound) at Kenmore Square. The E line splits at Coply. Don't hop on the E if you hope to get into Brookline / Brighton.

The farthest north is the B line (the one you want). It goes directly down Commonwealth Avenue.

The middle line is the C line. It runs to Cleveland Circle down Beacon Street.

The farthest south is the D line which runs to Riverside in Newton. It goes much farther than the other two lines and is considered much faster because it makes fewer stops.

The distance between these three lines depends on the location. For most of their run, however, they are no more than four blocks apart.

I hope that helps.

PS - The B line sucks if you are in a rush. It stops basically every block.
 

CraKaJaX

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Accipiter, you are NOT alone. Boston blows. If you think the T system is ***** ridiculous, try driving. Mapquest, Google Maps, whatever else type of direction planner you use, just throw it out the ***** window because Boston doesn't believe in street signs. Even taxi drivers in Boston have no ***** idea where they are going. They dont put turn only signs or arrows in the turn only lane, so once your up close, you finally realize your turning when you dont want to. Once you turn, there goes all hope for making it to your destination because of one way streets or some fvcked up traffic lights. Why can't you just make it simple and stick to a grid layout like NYC? Damn, that would be too easy. Lastly, Boston believes it is more important to have a ***** dunkin donuts down at the T ticketing area then it is to have a bathroom.
 

BKLounger

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are you people on crack. After my first month of riding the t in boston it was super easy. Yeah it takes some getting used to to figure out what color line you want (or which version of the green you want). Between my bike and the t i can get to just about any place i want.

As for where to live your best bet is brighton. It really is a student ghetto. I live right across the charles from bu on the cambridge side.

and as for the dunkin comment. It really is important. You see how us bostonians can be a-holes in the morning. it would be 10x worse if we didn't get our dunkin.
 

Turnpike

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If you can't navigate Boston's easy T system, I wish you luck in college. And don't even attempt driving through downtown Boston or taking public transportation in some other huge city like New York. Also you will not get to BU from Newton in 20 minutes unless you fly a chopper. And the green line (esp the B line) is PACKED and SLOOOWWW during rush hour. I'd move to Allston (cool town) and bike/walk it.
 

Accipiter22

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Originally posted by: Turnpike
If you can't navigate Boston's easy T system, I wish you luck in college. And don't even attempt driving through downtown Boston or taking public transportation in some other huge city like New York. Also you will not get to BU from Newton in 20 minutes unless you fly a chopper. And the green line (esp the B line) is PACKED and SLOOOWWW during rush hour. I'd move to Allston (cool town) and bike/walk it.

I wouldn't be on rush hour actually, I made a class schedule to avoid it actually


Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
The Green line splits into four different lines. Three travel west through Allston / Brighton / Brookline / Newton, the other (the E) travels south down Huntington Avenue.

IMPORTANT: The B,C,D lines split (going outbound) at Kenmore Square. The E line splits at Coply. Don't hop on the E if you hope to get into Brookline / Brighton.

The farthest north is the B line (the one you want). It goes directly down Commonwealth Avenue.

The middle line is the C line. It runs to Cleveland Circle down Beacon Street.

The farthest south is the D line which runs to Riverside in Newton. It goes much farther than the other two lines and is considered much faster because it makes fewer stops.

The distance between these three lines depends on the location. For most of their run, however, they are no more than four blocks apart.

I hope that helps.

PS - The B line sucks if you are in a rush. It stops basically every block.


that does help a lot, thanks!



Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Accipiter, you are NOT alone. Boston blows. If you think the T system is ***** ridiculous, try driving. Mapquest, Google Maps, whatever else type of direction planner you use, just throw it out the ***** window because Boston doesn't believe in street signs. Even taxi drivers in Boston have no ***** idea where they are going. They dont put turn only signs or arrows in the turn only lane, so once your up close, you finally realize your turning when you dont want to. Once you turn, there goes all hope for making it to your destination because of one way streets or some fvcked up traffic lights. Why can't you just make it simple and stick to a grid layout like NYC? Damn, that would be too easy. Lastly, Boston believes it is more important to have a ***** dunkin donuts down at the T ticketing area then it is to have a bathroom.


LOL I think I might actually try and wrangle a parking permit at one of BU's alleged lots in the area which they claim to have...Driving isn't a ball there but I think it might be quicker than the T
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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I grew up 15 mi. north of Boston, everyone rode the T as parking spots are either unavailable
or crazy priced. It's really not too hard to figure out, well for most people anyway...
 

CraKaJaX

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Turnpike
If you can't navigate Boston's easy T system, I wish you luck in college. And don't even attempt driving through downtown Boston or taking public transportation in some other huge city like New York. Also you will not get to BU from Newton in 20 minutes unless you fly a chopper. And the green line (esp the B line) is PACKED and SLOOOWWW during rush hour. I'd move to Allston (cool town) and bike/walk it.</end quote></div>

I wouldn't be on rush hour actually, I made a class schedule to avoid it actually


<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
The Green line splits into four different lines. Three travel west through Allston / Brighton / Brookline / Newton, the other (the E) travels south down Huntington Avenue.

IMPORTANT: The B,C,D lines split (going outbound) at Kenmore Square. The E line splits at Coply. Don't hop on the E if you hope to get into Brookline / Brighton.

The farthest north is the B line (the one you want). It goes directly down Commonwealth Avenue.

The middle line is the C line. It runs to Cleveland Circle down Beacon Street.

The farthest south is the D line which runs to Riverside in Newton. It goes much farther than the other two lines and is considered much faster because it makes fewer stops.

The distance between these three lines depends on the location. For most of their run, however, they are no more than four blocks apart.

I hope that helps.

PS - The B line sucks if you are in a rush. It stops basically every block.
</end quote></div>


that does help a lot, thanks!



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
Accipiter, you are NOT alone. Boston blows. If you think the T system is ***** ridiculous, try driving. Mapquest, Google Maps, whatever else type of direction planner you use, just throw it out the ***** window because Boston doesn't believe in street signs. Even taxi drivers in Boston have no ***** idea where they are going. They dont put turn only signs or arrows in the turn only lane, so once your up close, you finally realize your turning when you dont want to. Once you turn, there goes all hope for making it to your destination because of one way streets or some fvcked up traffic lights. Why can't you just make it simple and stick to a grid layout like NYC? Damn, that would be too easy. Lastly, Boston believes it is more important to have a ***** dunkin donuts down at the T ticketing area then it is to have a bathroom.</end quote></div>


LOL I think I might actually try and wrangle a parking permit at one of BU's alleged lots in the area which they claim to have...Driving isn't a ball there but I think it might be quicker than the T

I made it to BU once, but only because of one surprising reason. I was lost!
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Jesus Christ, I'm on a tight schedule though, the trip can't take longer than 20-25 minutes. Plus wtf are C & D & B lines?!?!?! I thought it was the green line? Ugh this city blows already. </end quote></div>

The Green line sort of splits into multiple lines lettered B, C, D, E. Just look at a map of the T. It's not difficult.

map at mbta.com

Talk about easy to understand. I figured it out in 10 seconds of looking at the map that the green line has branches differentiated by letter. Get on the right letter train for the right branch.

The L/subway system here is harder to grasp due to the CTA's exceedingly poor station signage, stations with duplicate names on parallel lines, and other great qualities.

 
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