Could Sen. Bernie Sanders Become President?

[MatSm]

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — Calling income inequality "the great moral issue of our time," Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders urged a boisterous crowd of thousands in Maine on Monday to help him transform America by restoring a thriving middle class.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/06/bernie-sanders-crowd-maine_n_7740416.html

Does anybody remember how much money was spent on the 2008 elections ? I read somewhere it was in the neighborhood of $760,000,000.00. Remember the old saying "you get what you pay for" ? We The People are NOT getting what we pay for. Yet we keep electing the same people. The same people keep spending our tax dollars on all sorts of things that do not help the USA. It's time to stop it.

 

[boomerang]

The President doesn't control spending the House does.

 

[NesuD]

Bernie Sanders is a European style socialist. While I certainly applaud a sincere voice in politics and Sanders is frankly the only one that I can discern. There is no way he can get enough votes to be elected. The voters of this country are incapable of change. Sanders style of socialism is a non starter in this country. Honestly we don't need Bernie Sanders to fix it we just need to be willing to send a message. A simple vote against all incumbents should do the trick. Party doesn't really matter. If you want to get the attention of your government fire them all and bring on the replacements. Nothing like a good house cleaning to shake things up. they will only start to listen when they realize their jobs are on the line.

 

[1prophet]

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — Calling income inequality "the great moral issue of our time," Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders urged a boisterous crowd of thousands in Maine on Monday to help him transform America by restoring a thriving middle class.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/06/bernie-sanders-crowd-maine_n_7740416.html

Does anybody remember how much money was spent on the 2008 elections ? I read somewhere it was in the neighborhood of $760,000,000.00. Remember the old saying "you get what you pay for" ? We The People are NOT getting what we pay for. Yet we keep electing the same people. The same people keep spending our tax dollars on all sorts of things that do not help the USA. It's time to stop it.

Here you go, this will dispel any myth, belief, illusion, etc. that someone like Bernie Sanders can become president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

 

[halik]

No, but he'll split the dem ticket for sure. Go Bernie, go!

 

[soulcougher73]

No, because his party will not back or nominate him.

 

[PokerGuy]

Bernie has the same chance to become the next president that I do: none.

The guy is like that crazy cookie uncle. Everyone just kind of politely listens to him and nods their heads, and finds an excuse to go do something else and get away. I appreciate his candor and refreshing willingness to say things that others only think, but he's a socialist nutcase -- his candicay is a non-starter. If you think the general public (outside of the fringe leftist lunatics) is clamoring for a 90% marginal tax rate, government takeover of private industry etc, you're delusional.

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

He blamed cervical cancer on lack of orgasms. Todd Akin must be going wtf?

 

[overst33r]

Bernie has the same chance to become the next president that I do: none.

The guy is like that crazy cookie uncle. Everyone just kind of politely listens to him and nods their heads, and finds an excuse to go do something else and get away. I appreciate his candor and refreshing willingness to say things that others only think, but he's a socialist nutcase -- his candicay is a non-starter. If you think the general public (outside of the fringe leftist lunatics) is clamoring for a 90% marginal tax rate, government takeover of private industry etc, you're delusional.

Is that what Bernie wants?

Regarding the marginal tax, seems like he references past administrations to bring current times into perspective. I haven't seen a specific rate, but it would definitely be higher for the rich.

Can you clarify the "government takeover of the private industry". Which industries?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Bernie originally stated that his main goal was to bring Hillary to the left, which he seems to be accomplishing.

 

[Slew Foot]

Think of him as Donald Trump of the left

 

[Tombstone1881]

Bernie would be an advocate for the PEOPLE which is something that no other candidate currently running is. He'd go after the corporations and make them actually "trickle down" since they haven't done that on their own after 30 years of opportunity.

He's exactly what this country needs, but the average American will never vote him in. (As pointed out in the vid 1prophet posted a few posts back)

 

[PokerGuy]

Is that what Bernie wants?

Regarding the marginal tax, seems like he references past administrations to bring current times into perspective. I haven't seen a specific rate, but it would definitely be higher for the rich.

Can you clarify the "government takeover of the private industry". Which industries?

He has specifically said he is in favor of a 90% (marginal) tax rate for "the rich" in his quest to battle "wealth inequality". See here

At one point I believe he called for nationalization of the oil and gas industry (to bring it under government control) for the good of the people.

He's a loon in many ways, but I find him to be a refreshing loon because at least he's willing to (sometimes) tell the truth about his ideas rather than saying one thing while doing another like all the other politicians.

 

[Pens1566]

Think of him as Donald Trump of the left

Except he's not bat-shit crazy.

 

[Tombstone1881]

The top rate at one time was 92%, and I doubt he would go anywhere near that high, but raising the rates on the uber rich, or things like stock transaction fees (even in the fraction of one cent) would be be big boost for the economy.

He would cut out corporate welfare, which is generally about twice the amount that we pay for social safety net (welfare) programs. What were the 2012 figures again? Something like $50 billion for social welfare and $96 billion for corporate welfare? The corporations don't need it. we need to stop wasting that money on multinational corporations and invest in the American people instead.

Oh... and that 90% tax rate? Don't worry about it!
You are nowhere NEAR having to worry about that bracket,
nor will you EVER be anywhere near that bracket!

 

[PokerGuy]

Bernie would be an advocate for the PEOPLE which is something that no other candidate currently running is.

Yeah, sure. Just more socialist drivel.

He'd go after the corporations and make them actually "trickle down" since they haven't done that on their own after 30 years of opportunity.

Since when is there a mandate for a corporation to "trickle down"? Since when it that a goal of a corporation? The fact that you say "after 30 years of opportunity" they haven't done so indicates you think they have some sort of obligation to engage in some sort of "trickle down" activity, which is clearly baloney.

He's exactly what this country needs, but the average American will never vote him in. (As pointed out in the vid 1prophet posted a few posts back)

No, we don't "exactly" need a socialist loon at the helm, but I do find his candor refreshing.

 

[PokerGuy]

Except he's not bat-sh*t crazy.

Uh... someone who thinks lack of orgasms is the cause of cervical cancer. I'd say he is very much on the Trump level of nutty.

 

[PokerGuy]

The top rate at one time was 92%, and I doubt he would go anywhere near that high

He has stated multiple times that he would push for that.

, but raising the rates on the uber rich, or things like stock transaction fees (even in the fraction of one cent) would be be big boost for the economy.

You think higher taxes is "a big boost for the economy"? You're delusional.

Oh... and that 90% tax rate? Don't worry about it!
You are nowhere NEAR having to worry about that bracket,
nor will you EVER be anywhere near that bracket!

I'm not a woman either, does that mean I shouldn't care about women's rights? That's idiotic. Whether something is wrong or right doesn't depend on whether I'm personally directly impacted or not.

 

[mnewsham]

socialist drivel

Socialism isn't a pejorative any more. I WANT a socialist, this country NEEDS more socialist programs, and it's frankly baffling with our social security and socialist military we don't have health care and education as well.

 

[Moonbeam]

Bernie can't win. The American people have been trained too deeply to hate themselves and would never be able to see he would be in their interests to vote for. Americans have become a corporately sponsored self fucking people. The thought they might lose a dime to socialism would mean the neighbor might get the car in the ads and make them look so yesterday.

 

[soulcougher73]

Think of him as Donald Trump of the left

More like Ron Paul of the left. Honest but with ideas a lot find crazy. Sticks to his guns and votes the same way all the time. Not a flip flopper regardless how his views are viewed by the public.

 

[PokerGuy]

Socialism isn't a pejorative any more.

Yes, it is, as it should be.

I WANT a socialist, this country NEEDS more socialist programs

You might, but most sane people would not want a socialist, nor do we need more socialist programs -- we have plenty of those already. Also socialism =/= social welfare programs.

, and it's frankly baffling with our social security and socialist military we don't have health care and education as well.

Huh? We don't have healthcare? Education?

 

[mnewsham]

You think higher taxes is "a big boost for the economy"? You're delusional.

Well the trickle down theory of economics has been debunked enough at this point, the conservatives really should stop pushing it if that's what you're trying to advocate for, just stop. Taxing the rich is very important for this country, taxing the rich is one of the few ways we can pay for our government spending. We have a LOT of very wealthy people and corporations in this country, yet many of them are paying less in taxes than ever before in this country's history.

I'm not advocating for 90%+ tax rates on the rich, but if you make over $5M a year, MAYBE 60%+ wouldnt be unbearable.

The top 20% in this country owns ~85% of the wealth. So the bottom 80% is sharing the other 15%. Why the fuck would taxing the hell out of that 15% and giving tax breaks to the holders of all the rest make ANY sense?


When Henry Ford realized he needed customers to buy his model T or it wouldn't be a success, he payed his employees enough that they could buy one, and guess what. They did.

If you pay the poor people enough money to buy the nice shit you sell, they will buy more shit. (this is what makes your economy grow at a healthy rate) When you tax the poor people to the point they are living pay check to pay check and have $20k+ in debt. They suddenly aren't buying as much and the economy suffers.


Obviously this is all very simplified and this is a complex issue, I just get tired of hearing about how those poor multi-millionaires are just being taxed too damn much. The fact we don't have universal healthcare and education unlike all other first world countries should be a pretty big signal that maybe we aren't doing something right.

 

[mnewsham]

Huh? We don't have healthcare? Education

The simple fact that your own personal finances dictates you receiving either of those is pretty damn sad.

You realize pretty much all other first world countries the citizens don't have to worry about these things because their governments tax enough to pay for basic human needs.

 

[Atreus21]

Think of him as Donald Trump of the left