Originally posted by: Ready
Even though I do agree any college QB would get smoked in their first year even, Big Ben has been the lone exception to the rule
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: Ready
Even though I do agree any college QB would get smoked in their first year even, Big Ben has been the lone exception to the rule
You still agree any first year QB would get smoked after seeing my post regarding first year stats?
Originally posted by: juiio
Not to mention that it says "College All-Stars", and not one particular college.
And, of course, neither team would have been playing seriously, since they wouldn't want to get hurt in a meaningless exhibition.
Originally posted by: mrchan
Anyone that votes Yes, probably doesn't watch football.
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
The best college football team could NEVER beat the worst NFL team, plain and simple.
Originally posted by: slvrsol
the best team doesn't always win. If USC played over their heads and Texans played as bad as they could, why not? People are forgetting about coaching and chemistry as well, two categories that are just as important as talent. Two areas where the Trojans trump the Texans.
Originally posted by: latino666
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
FWIW, here are the scores of the last few games between the College All Stars and the NFL Champs:
1971 Colts 24 All Stars 17
1972 Cowboys 20 All Stars 7
1973 Dolphins 14 All Stars 3 (remember, these were the undefeated Dolphins)
1974 No game, NFL strike
1975 Steelers 21 All Stars 14
1976 Game was suspended with the Steelers leading 24-0
So this was college players vs. the Super Bowl champs, not the worst team in the league. And the college boys were competitive.
So I don't think that it is a stretch to say a top college team today could beat an NFL bottom-dweller.
Edit: And remember, these college teams were graduated seniors only, not a real, cream-of-the-crop, bona-fide, All Star team. And they still performed respectably against teams that were reigning Super Bowl champs.
That was in the 70s. NFL caliber players today are bigger, stronger, and faster. IMHO USC would get whooped pretty bad.
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: slvrsol
the best team doesn't always win. If USC played over their heads and Texans played as bad as they could, why not? People are forgetting about coaching and chemistry as well, two categories that are just as important as talent. Two areas where the Trojans trump the Texans.
Pete Carrol sucked as an NFL coach.
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
Originally posted by: SirPsycho
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
That's why half of the Pac-10 has been in the top 25 this season, right? USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona State... they must all suck so badly for the coaches to think so highly of them.
Originally posted by: Ready
Originally posted by: SirPsycho
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
That's why half of the Pac-10 has been in the top 25 this season, right? USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona State... they must all suck so badly for the coaches to think so highly of them.
Didn't you know, CVSiN's internet opinion is far more respected and recognized than any of them coaches
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: slvrsol
the best team doesn't always win. If USC played over their heads and Texans played as bad as they could, why not? People are forgetting about coaching and chemistry as well, two categories that are just as important as talent. Two areas where the Trojans trump the Texans.
Pete Carrol sucked as an NFL coach.
how does that matter when he coaches a 'college team'
Originally posted by: Tom
Originally posted by: latino666
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
FWIW, here are the scores of the last few games between the College All Stars and the NFL Champs:
1971 Colts 24 All Stars 17
1972 Cowboys 20 All Stars 7
1973 Dolphins 14 All Stars 3 (remember, these were the undefeated Dolphins)
1974 No game, NFL strike
1975 Steelers 21 All Stars 14
1976 Game was suspended with the Steelers leading 24-0
So this was college players vs. the Super Bowl champs, not the worst team in the league. And the college boys were competitive.
So I don't think that it is a stretch to say a top college team today could beat an NFL bottom-dweller.
Edit: And remember, these college teams were graduated seniors only, not a real, cream-of-the-crop, bona-fide, All Star team. And they still performed respectably against teams that were reigning Super Bowl champs.
That was in the 70s. NFL caliber players today are bigger, stronger, and faster. IMHO USC would get whooped pretty bad.
So are today's college players, so that wouldn't matter.
Originally posted by: SirPsycho
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
That's why half of the Pac-10 has been in the top 25 this season, right? USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona State... they must all suck so badly for the coaches to think so highly of them.
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: SirPsycho
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
That's why half of the Pac-10 has been in the top 25 this season, right? USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona State... they must all suck so badly for the coaches to think so highly of them.
Give it a few more weeks and half of those teams will plummet. There's just no comparison between the PAC10 and major powerhouse conferences like the Big10 (on the decline...) and the SEC.
Put a UCLA, Cal, Oregon, ASU in either of those conferences and they get smoked.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Ready
Originally posted by: SirPsycho
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
That's why half of the Pac-10 has been in the top 25 this season, right? USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona State... they must all suck so badly for the coaches to think so highly of them.
Didn't you know, CVSiN's internet opinion is far more respected and recognized than any of them coaches
An what percentage of the AP is on the west coast?
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: konichiwa
Originally posted by: SirPsycho
Originally posted by: CVSiN
no i doubt they can even beat Texas.... Pac 10 are wussies..
That's why half of the Pac-10 has been in the top 25 this season, right? USC, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona State... they must all suck so badly for the coaches to think so highly of them.
Give it a few more weeks and half of those teams will plummet. There's just no comparison between the PAC10 and major powerhouse conferences like the Big10 (on the decline...) and the SEC.
Put a UCLA, Cal, Oregon, ASU in either of those conferences and they get smoked.
I disagree. You guys are just jealous. Pretty much Cal just got fvcked up last week and everyone was They will win this weekend and UCLA will too so pretty much they just keep rising.
Originally posted by: Ready
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Originally posted by: Ready
Even though I do agree any college QB would get smoked in their first year even, Big Ben has been the lone exception to the rule
You still agree any first year QB would get smoked after seeing my post regarding first year stats?
Yeah I said I agree that any first year QB would get smoked, though Ben has been the lone exception. He did have alot of help on both offense and especially defense. A defense that allow him to play fairly conservatively.