Counter Strike GO

[OCGuy]

So....you actually give up IQ on a game with relatively poor IQ in the first place...so you can have a higher frame rate that makes no difference to the human eye?

I don't understand.

 

[NTMBK]

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[-slash-]

So....you actually give up IQ on a game with relatively poor IQ in the first place...so you can have a higher frame rate that makes no difference to the human eye?

I don't understand.

Never understood it either. There is no noticeable difference above 100fps. I played source semi-professional for YEARS and if I could keep my FPS above 100 I was fine. I understand why he wants to keep his FPS the same as hes used to, but over 100 it makes no difference in gameplay.

 

[omeds]

It makes a big difference to the tearing pattern when not using vsync, and judder patterns. IE- a solid 125 or 250fps cap at 120hz looks much cleaner and feels much smoother than fps wildly going all over the place, or at figures not near multiples of the refresh rate. Higher fps also reduces latency.

Not sure why he would need 150 specifically, perhaps to maintain it for a 144hz display.

In any case there are valid reasons, even if they don't matter to you specifically.

OP, CS:GO is mostly CPU bound, because it's so weak on the GPU's. OC that CPU.

 

[DigDog]

he'll probably get 250-300 fps

 

[cmdrdredd]

I have my settings lower than that and my average frame rate is probably about 180. But it's my minimum frame rate I'm worried about, which can dip as low as 130 I think.

Why is 130fps considered bad? Seriously...if you die it's you not your FPS at that point.

 

[videogames101]

i have an average framrate in the 200s with the rig below, you'll be fine

So....you actually give up IQ on a game with relatively poor IQ in the first place...so you can have a higher frame rate that makes no difference to the human eye?

I don't understand.

it's about competition, not graphics - and contrary to what everyone seems to think - very high fps values tend to produce smoother gameplay, and it is noticeable.

now whether that makes you better at cs:go is a much better debate, i would argue no it doesn't

 

[steve wilson]

It's a very small advantage to have, but it is an advantage. I like to Min/Max as much as possible. Maybe it is just a placeabo affect, but it seems smoother to me.

Thanks for all the advice... I'll OC the CPU.

 

[Wall Street]

Note that 60 FPS has 16.7 ms between frames and 150 FPS has 6.7 ms between frames. This means that a solid 150 FPS frame rate can remove up to 10 ms of lag, and an average of 5 ms of lag from the game. This is more impact than moving from a 125 Hz to a 1000 Hz mouse. I believe that this is the primary advantage of very high frame rates, not the visual differences but rather the latency difference.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Note that 60 FPS has 16.7 ms between frames and 150 FPS has 6.7 ms between frames. This means that a solid 150 FPS frame rate can remove up to 10 ms of lag, and an average of 5 ms of lag from the game. This is more impact than moving from a 125 Hz to a 1000 Hz mouse. I believe that this is the primary advantage of very high frame rates, not the visual differences but rather the latency difference.

Again if you are dying a lot, less than one frame is not the reason. Even in a fighting game where you can actually count frames for certain moves, less than one frame isn't going to make you lose.

Your gameplay should be the same at 120fps as it is at 150 regardless of the difference in a couple ms. I bet most people in the world couldn't even react fast enough for it to make a difference.

 

[steve wilson]

OC the CPU to 4.2ghz has worked. It rarely goes below 150 now and never below 140 in the quick tests I have done. Anyone know of a good OC guide for the i5 2500k? I have just used the auto OC feature on my ASUS mobo...but as I have read this can damage the CPU over time due to too high voltages.

 

[codyray10]

Why the need for 150fps min? I cant imagine a dip to 130fps makes it unplayable. As others have stated, the source engine is quite old and doesn't need much horsepower to run.

 

[steve wilson]

Why the need for 150fps min? I cant imagine a dip to 130fps makes it unplayable. As others have stated, the source engine is quite old and doesn't need much horsepower to run.

It would just make me happy

 

[-slash-]

i have an average framrate in the 200s with the rig below, you'll be fine



it's about competition, not graphics - and contrary to what everyone seems to think - very high fps values tend to produce smoother gameplay, and it is noticeable.

now whether that makes you better at cs:go is a much better debate, i would argue no it doesn't

Agreed, wont make a lick of difference. You can tell yourself it will, but in all reality it is what it is. If you're getting above 100fps there will be no stuttering and it all boils down to how good you are at the game. Stick with source, it's better than GO anyway ha ha

 

[steve wilson]

Agreed, wont make a lick of difference. You can tell yourself it will, but in all reality it is what it is. If you're getting above 100fps there will be no stuttering and it all boils down to how good you are at the game. Stick with source, it's better than GO anyway ha ha

I played 1.6 for 3 years and tried out source... Source was awful. I put it in the same class as condition zero. GO is a good game (not as good as 1.6 in its day), but it is still getting developed. In time it could be as good.

 

[Galatian]

OC the CPU to 4.2ghz has worked. It rarely goes below 150 now and never below 140 in the quick tests I have done. Anyone know of a good OC guide for the i5 2500k? I have just used the auto OC feature on my ASUS mobo...but as I have read this can damage the CPU over time due to too high voltages.

I'm sorry that nobody else is really helping you on your issue at hand. I've never had a Sandy Bridge processor, but I would bet it's the same as my Ivy Bridge i5-3570K.

Return clock speeds to default. I would then use offset overclocking, because that was the easiest for me and even kept the sleep states enabled. I think this is the preffered way of overclocking, it just seems that not a lot of people have done it and most off the OC guys try to stay "old-school" with vcore and LLC and whatnot. What you will want to do is increase your multiplicator by one, boot to windows and do a quick check of its stable (Intel Burn Test) if it is go ahead increase one more step. Once it is unstable, add + voltage in your offset.

I'm running my i5-3570L @ 4,5 GHz with a + 0,100 offset voltage perfectly stable.

Check your temperatures though while doing stress testing. You will at some point either hit a voltage or a temperature wall. In my case it was actually both. To go above 4,5 GHz I would have to substantially add more voltage and hence the chip would get to warm for my taste. So look put for your sweet spot and leave at it that. Don't forget to use Prime 95 for a long time test of stability!

 

[steve wilson]

Thanks for the help Galatian. I have found a guide on Toms hardware which I'm going to try. If that doesn't work out I will try your method.