Country music star has change of heart on 2nd amendment after Las Vegas massacre

[Phokus]

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017...t-caleb-keeter-las-vegas-shooting-gun-control

I always love it when bad shit happens to conservatives and they adopt liberal positions afterwards. I remember reading of so many stories about how republicans magically have a change of heart about Obamacare after they fall ill and wouldn't otherwise be fore Obamacare if it didn't save their lives.

 

[Mayne]

America is done. There is no solution. The things you can do in America without running the risk of being shot or blown up is at an all time low. Everything is fucked, they're almost running out of distractions. I do understand his feelings though.

 

[NAC4EV]

Russia was correct when they stated many years ago "we don't have to worry about America because they'll kill themselves."

Maybe that statement is true?

Americans are getting screwed by their own amendment.
And they don't get it...

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Amazing the changes when it happens to you. Guess a classroom full of kids wasn't strong enough.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Tragic traumatic events can shake people. I hope he comes back to his senses, but whatever, he can do what he likes.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Why do people see it as a weakness when someone looks at a problem and changes their mind?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Given that we have a racist tyrant in the White House right now, I'm not convinced that it's time to repeal the second amendment.

Making mental health care a much higher priority seems more useful to me, though our idiot in chief would only want "the right people" to get it.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Why do people see it as a weakness when someone looks at a problem and changes their mind?

Changing your mind from enlightenment, from new information being brought to you, etc. is one thing. In this case nothing has changed, an event just hit close to home for him. So now it is an emotional decision. Nothing has logically changed though.

 

[Engineer]

Changing your mind from enlightenment, from new information being brought to you, etc. is one thing. In this case nothing has changed, an event just hit close to home for him. So now it is an emotional decision. Nothing has logically changed though.

Nothing has changed in your logic. Maybe his has. Maybe this event is the 'new information' that he used to make this decision. Would you say the same if he had flipped from anti 2A to 2A supporter?

 

[Jhhnn]

America is done. There is no solution. The things you can do in America without running the risk of being shot or blown up is at an all time low. Everything is fucked, they're almost running out of distractions. I do understand his feelings though.

"They?" I take it you're not American. The rest is bullshit, obviously, given that violent crime is very low in this country.

 

[Maxima1]

Changing your mind from enlightenment, from new information being brought to you, etc. is one thing. In this case nothing has changed, an event just hit close to home for him. So now it is an emotional decision. Nothing has logically changed though.

lol It's not like you're logical. Your whole argument I've seen seems to be that since not enough is done with other things (e.g. alcohol or tobacco), we should do nothing with guns.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

once the shit lands in their backyard, it's a problem that needs to be addressed.

 

[sandorski]

Tragic traumatic events can shake people. I hope he comes back to his senses, but whatever, he can do what he likes.

...comes back to them?....

 

[sandorski]

Changing your mind from enlightenment, from new information being brought to you, etc. is one thing. In this case nothing has changed, an event just hit close to home for him. So now it is an emotional decision. Nothing has logically changed though.

....nothing has changed?....

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Changing your mind from enlightenment, from new information being brought to you, etc. is one thing. In this case nothing has changed, an event just hit close to home for him. So now it is an emotional decision. Nothing has logically changed though.

well I'm about done with your bullshit.

Simple question for you. Do you value your right to own guns more than you value the safety of children? I'm not talking about second hand smoke, or drunk drivers or pedophiles in vans, I'm talking about children being slaughtered by guns, almost daily.
So do you value your 2nd amendment rights more than you value the safety of children, because that's what it boils down to. If you're unwilling to waiver from any modifications to the 2nd, it's pretty clear.

 

[OWR88]

You can't argue with those who oppose sensible gun control. They make their kids pose for photos with their guns. The argument was over a long time ago when innocent white kids were shot dead at Sandy Hook and they wouldn't budge.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Yep, we really need gun prohibition in this country, it's worked so well with alcohol and drugs.

 

[NAC4EV]

Yep, we really need gun prohibition in this country, it's worked so well with alcohol and drugs.

What a dumbass.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yep, we really need gun prohibition in this country, it's worked so well with alcohol and drugs.

Good point. Guns have proven useless in enforcing alcohol and drug prohibitions. We should go to sensible laws to regulate them.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Actually, unrestricted access to guns leads to less crimes. There is no sensible laws in regards to prohibit or regulate guns that does not increase murder or suicide rates.

 

[Muse]

America is done. There is no solution. The things you can do in America without running the risk of being shot or blown up is at an all time low. Everything is fucked, they're almost running out of distractions. I do understand his feelings though.

I used to be an optimist. The optimist in me has been slowly but surely bludgeoned to death. I am now a cynic and a pessimist. The 2016 presidential election and the continuing terror have done me in. Now this. It just drives a nail into the heart of the optimist in me, whose heartbeat is so faint I'm not sure it's alive.

However, I disagree with the second sentence I quoted here, "there is no solution." Concerning these mass shootings, I have a solution and I've been stating it for a number of years. I used to get shot down, just mauled for expressing it, but nowadays I think my ideas are taking root in the populace, in some quarters.

You should not be allowed to own a gun. All guns should be government property. You should not be allowed to get your hands on one unless you are:

Vetted, trained and monitored law enforcement or military.

If you are a hunter, you should only be able to check out guns. When doing so, you should have a permit, an itinerary and be buddied by at least one other vetted, trained and monitored hunter.

The NRA is your enemy, whether you know it or not.

 

[Commodus]

Actually, unrestricted access to guns leads to less crimes. There is no sensible laws in regards to prohibit or regulate guns that does not increase murder or suicide rates.

Are you profoundly ignorant of gun laws around most of the planet?

 

[NostaSeronx]

Are you profoundly ignorant of gun laws around most of the planet?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=guns+laws+more+crime
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:.edu+guns+laws+more+crime

Nope, I am well educated.

Antagonist mode: I propose that the government should be required to give every and any citizen a fully automatic weapon.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Actually, unrestricted access to guns leads to less crimes. There is no sensible laws in regards to prohibit or regulate guns that does not increase murder or suicide rates.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=guns+laws+more+crime
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site:.edu+guns+laws+more+crime

Nope, I am well educated.

Umm the first 3 links in the search you gratuitously provided seem to say the exact opposite of what you originally stated

 

[WackyDan]

Given that we have a racist tyrant in the White House right now, I'm not convinced that it's time to repeal the second amendment.

Making mental health care a much higher priority seems more useful to me, though our idiot in chief would only want "the right people" to get it.

So wait... You'd normally be against the 2nd, but just in case you need it in the near future you are for it given who is in the white house?

Please tell me you are a liberal or progressive and have a history of promoting gun control so this can be funny versus odd.