Country's Full - Trump Slams Door on Refugees

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cytg111

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Oh by the way, I had to hang a insanely heavy plasma on the wall yesterday
My wife is unfortunately not very strong. I went to the bar in town (no kidding), and "Hassan" from Morocco helped me. He did NOT BLOW HIMSELF UP. Would you believe it? True story!
(I shook his hands and gave him €5 )

I visited the states some years back and approaching your culture the first thing I thought was "this is integration done right", sort of an "American first, muslim second" - or whatever diety you represent, mentality. That was nice.
 

VRAMdemon

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Google rocked by Trumps immigration order

https://www.cnet.com/news/google-donald-trump-immigration-order-memo-workers-sundar-pichai/

"It's painful to see the personal cost of this executive order on our colleagues," Google CEO Sundar Pichai

Also..remember when every time Obama issued an executive order, some Republicans would freak the fuvk out about him being a "dictator" and his unconstitutional abuse of power?

From here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

Reagan-381 (2 terms)
Bush 41-166 (1 term)
B. Clinton- 364 (2 terms)
Bush 43-291 (2 terms)
Obama-274 (2 terms)
Trump-11 (Thru 1/27/2016)

Trump is on pace to write 208 in his first year.
 

Puffnstuff

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Hello but those people are not American citizens and we have the right to do this just like I have the right to shut my front door and bar entry to anyone I wish.
 
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ivwshane

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I visited the states some years back and approaching your culture the first thing I thought was "this is integration done right", sort of an "American first, muslim second" - or whatever diety you represent, mentality. That was nice.


What you don't seem to realize is that the US has the same hate and scared people who are afraid of people different than them, as your country does. Its normal human nature. However, history has shown us that these scary people eventually do integrate and they no longer become scary. It happens not because the US has some special America first mentality but rather because it's also human nature. The speed at which this process works is determined by the level of resistance by the natives. If you want to stop being scared than go out and meet with these people, get to know them, invite them into your home, show them what it means to be a native and what makes your country great.
 

Imp

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So... 9-11 attacker nationalities (wiki):
15 = Saudi Arabia
2 = UAE
1 = Egypt
1 = Lebanon

*Compares with list of banned countries.*

Okay. Well, at least Afghanistan was on that list, right? Orlando shooting dude's parents were from Afghanistan.

Okay. Pakistan then. San Bernardino couple had ties to Pakistan?
 
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Hearing of Canadians now not being able to travel to or return from these countries and others due to stopovers in the US. Great planning on this one.
 
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cytg111

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What you don't seem to realize is that the US has the same hate and scared people who are afraid of people different than them, as your country does. Its normal human nature. However, history has shown us that these scary people eventually do integrate and they no longer become scary. It happens not because the US has some special America first mentality but rather because it's also human nature. The speed at which this process works is determined by the level of resistance by the natives. If you want to stop being scared than go out and meet with these people, get to know them, invite them into your home, show them what it means to be a native and what makes your country great.

And that would be great. This was policy for a long time(EU), for several decades in fact, the descendants will integrate, 2nd generation, 3rd generation .. but it didnt happen. Because of our relaxed laws, freedom to be and believe whatever it is you wanna believe, be it to build a tippie and smoke pot for the rest of your days, that is your choice as a free individual. We welcomed mosques and culture and with it certian imams, speakers of the old ways - and some of them hate speakers(just as you will find them with the neo nazis, clan people etc.), and they have held them in a grip ever since.
Freedom and freedom of speech works when we all agree to be free.
I agree with what you say in regards to human nature. Another thing that is human nature is to not let go of power(over people) once you have acquired it.
I would do a couple of things different.
1. Stop the surge of refugees. Provide help and shelter where they are fleeing from, create safe zones with military.
2. Same at home. Create a safe zone(maaaybe not with military!), a safe place for those who wish to escape the ghettos. Soon there would be only angry old men and semi radicalized young men left in the 'ghetto'.. let them have a circle-jerk! (but common, we all know, when where pussy goes, men follow...)
I would gladly pay antoher 5-10% tax towards these measures.
 
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This kind of stupid thinking is what causes spouses and step children of American citizens to wait for 18 months to 2 years to get a immigrant visa/green card. Same with young children of green card holders taking 5 years to get a immigrant visa/green card. I know this because I had to deal with it with my wife/step daughter and grandson.

Blocking green card holders is f$cked up big time

This is just more bullshit and Trump/his staff are dickheads for issuing a blanket EO instead of reviewing the current process.

But it probably made some "liberals" angry so you should be cheering him on.
 

MajinCry

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Hello but those people are not American citizens and we have the right to do this just like I have the right to shut my front door and bar entry to anyone I wish.

European Americans are an invasive race, and thusly, should be punted out ASAP to return the country back to the Native Americans in full.

I mean, if we're going to be consistent here...
 
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what do you think about the fact that it affects at least 187 Google employees? i thought Trump was "business friendly"

http://www.wsj.com/articles/google-criticizes-impact-on-staff-of-trump-immigration-order-1485596067
MY GOD! We can't have 187 Google employees negatively affected !! It will be the end of the world as we know it ! Or in a few days to a few weeks exceptions will be made, rules will be changed and the work of business will continue apace. By all means scream and shout and run around, it will accomplish so much more.
 

Trumpstyle

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This is great work from Trump. Now I hope he will reinstate cia black sites around the world. To put those terrorist sympithazers Tim cook and Eric schmidt there. That what's gonna happen when you refuse to cooperate with the government to stop terrorists.
 

jman19

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This is great work from Trump. Now I hope he will reinstate cia black sites around the world. To put those terrorist sympithazers Tim cook and Eric schmidt there. That what's gonna happen when you refuse to cooperate with the government to stop terrorists.

Psycho alert.

Whose alt are you?
 
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European Americans are an invasive race, and thusly, should be punted out ASAP to return the country back to the Native Americans in full.

I mean, if we're going to be consistent here...
They tried, we won all the various wars and claim most of the land. They can try and take it back anytime they feel up to it.
 

Balt

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Even if the concept itself wasn't stupid (and it IS stupid), his implementation of this executive order is beyond incompetent.

There were literally people from these countries caught mid-flight when this EO went into effect, and CBP was left completely unprepared. Why? Because Trump didn't even bother to consult them or the State Department or anyone else, it seems, and the EO went into effect immediately instead of a future date.

He's also trapped a bunch of people from these countries inside the U.S. They can't leave, because who knows when or if they will be able to get back in?

He may go down as the most incompetent president of all-time before his four years are up.
 
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Trump really is bring people together... to protest him. Thousands at JFK. Cabs refusing to pick up passengers in a show of support.

And it's only been a week.
 

MrSquished

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Trump really is bring people together... to protest him. Thousands at JFK. Cabs refusing to pick up passengers in a show of support.

And it's only been a week.

Yah came here to post that. Saw video of what looks to be a sizable protest at JFK. The people have to fight back against injustice.
 
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