Country's Full - Trump Slams Door on Refugees

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Balt

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It takes a special kind of moron to issue an executive order without consulting or even notifying the agencies responsible for implementing it.
 
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jackstar7

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Who exactly is this going to hurt? Innocent travelers that had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. Sounds like a great way to lose support.
Or to bring attention to those who aren't giving this issue any.

Or we use your solution: Turn away! Nothing to see here! Just the abandonment of our principles as a country. Nothing over which you should be inconvenienced!


Hmmm... I am trying to think about another time when civil rights and travel inconveniences were a thing... when was that and how did it work out... something about buses...
 

sdifox

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Tomorrow the Orangutan in Chief will personally sandblast the Emma Lazarus poem off Lady Liberty.
 

MrSquished

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Who exactly is this going to hurt? Innocent travelers that had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. Sounds like a great way to lose support.

I'm pretty sure the police in the airports' municipalities where protests are happening are ensuring they go off in the least intrusive way possible.

There may be some inconveniences. How do you expect protests to work? They tend to be in conspicuous public spaces. That will involve road closures and mass transit crowding. The thing is protests need to be highly visible in order to have an effect. That is simply the price of living in a truly vibrant and free country.

Would you like to ban protests to some far off little corner of an area so nobody is even slightly inconvenienced? That's asinine, and detrimental to democracy.

I'm sure when Rosa Parks went and sat down on the wrong part of the bus, that whole bus was pretty inconvenienced. Shit happens.
 

Balt

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Reports coming out that federal court in NYC has stayed the executive order.

How embarrassing. Less than 10 days in office and he's already had an executive order halted by the courts.

I guess he should have consulted 'the swamp'. Maybe they could have prevented him from following through on this harebrained idea.
 

Amused

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Thankfully we have checks and balances to keep his tyranny in check. But for how long? I see his immediate increase in military pay as a payoff, not altruism to the troops. (And I'm an Army vet who always supports military pay increases, but this one is totally suspect in it's intentions) How long until Trump defies the courts and congress and tries to use military force domestically?
 
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What I read is the whole thing is on hold. There is no ban at the moment from what I see.
What I'm seeing is its only those caught in the aftermath that were held and faced removal. No other movements lifted. Trying to find the order again. Saw a picture of the three page order on Twitter and lost it.
 

K1052

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What I'm seeing is its only those caught in the aftermath that were held and faced removal. No other movements lifted. Trying to find the order again. Saw a picture of the three page order on Twitter and lost it.

Reports are conflicting about the extent. Unsure if holders of valid visas who are not in transit can get in.
 

Commodus

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I have no sympathy for any Trump voters. Just pity.

I say we sympathize. Show them the compassion that Trump never will, get them on our side before 2018 arrives (assuming Trump isn't impeached by then) and make sure the Republicans lose their dominance of Congress.
 
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Only those already here or in transit per CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-executive-order-immigration-reaction/index.html

A federal judge granted an emergency stay Saturday night for citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries who have already arrived in the US and those who are in transit, and who hold valid visas, ruling they can legally enter the US. The decision halts part of President Donald Trump's executive order, which barred citizens from those countries from entering the US for the next 90 days.
 
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