I'm thinking taxes...huge taxes!!!Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Robor
Really? It's the nuisance? Thank you, Captain Obvious. :laugh:
That said, WTF did the officers question the people about what they were doing in the house? Seems to me they were trying to use the topic of the meeting to stop them. In the end, if the cars are parked illegally they should be ticketed and/or towed. If the cars are parked legally there's not much that can be said or done. Some neighbors are inconsiderate assholes. My friend has a renter next door with 3 cars, a boat, and a camper overflowing the driveway to the lawn.
Well, you seemed confused about it. Re-reading your comments simply reinforces that.
Regardless, it wasn't "officers," rather it was an "official." Furthermore, I don't know if I believe whether the official actually asked those questions, remember this is a completely one-sided account, but even if he or she did, it was only to obtain the nature of the meeting and whether it qualified as a religious service or not.
And still, regardless of your feelings on how to handle asshole neighbors, some people aren't so tolerant. I don't think it's overkill to simply complain to the proper authorities and then let them decide for themselves whether it's a violation or not. If someone feels it's a nuisance, I'd rather go through the proper channels to complain and have it dealt with. Wouldn't you?
So... you still think 15 or so people getting together to hang out and talk about the bible should be considered "religious service" and that these people should either have to take it to a church or get a permit?
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Robor
Really? It's the nuisance? Thank you, Captain Obvious. :laugh:
That said, WTF did the officers question the people about what they were doing in the house? Seems to me they were trying to use the topic of the meeting to stop them. In the end, if the cars are parked illegally they should be ticketed and/or towed. If the cars are parked legally there's not much that can be said or done. Some neighbors are inconsiderate assholes. My friend has a renter next door with 3 cars, a boat, and a camper overflowing the driveway to the lawn.
Well, you seemed confused about it. Re-reading your comments simply reinforces that.
Regardless, it wasn't "officers," rather it was an "official." Furthermore, I don't know if I believe whether the official actually asked those questions, remember this is a completely one-sided account, but even if he or she did, it was only to obtain the nature of the meeting and whether it qualified as a religious service or not.
And still, regardless of your feelings on how to handle asshole neighbors, some people aren't so tolerant. I don't think it's overkill to simply complain to the proper authorities and then let them decide for themselves whether it's a violation or not. If someone feels it's a nuisance, I'd rather go through the proper channels to complain and have it dealt with. Wouldn't you?
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Robor
Really? It's the nuisance? Thank you, Captain Obvious. :laugh:
That said, WTF did the officers question the people about what they were doing in the house? Seems to me they were trying to use the topic of the meeting to stop them. In the end, if the cars are parked illegally they should be ticketed and/or towed. If the cars are parked legally there's not much that can be said or done. Some neighbors are inconsiderate assholes. My friend has a renter next door with 3 cars, a boat, and a camper overflowing the driveway to the lawn.
Well, you seemed confused about it. Re-reading your comments simply reinforces that.
Regardless, it wasn't "officers," rather it was an "official." Furthermore, I don't know if I believe whether the official actually asked those questions, remember this is a completely one-sided account, but even if he or she did, it was only to obtain the nature of the meeting and whether it qualified as a religious service or not.
And still, regardless of your feelings on how to handle asshole neighbors, some people aren't so tolerant. I don't think it's overkill to simply complain to the proper authorities and then let them decide for themselves whether it's a violation or not. If someone feels it's a nuisance, I'd rather go through the proper channels to complain and have it dealt with. Wouldn't you?
So... you still think 15 or so people getting together to hang out and talk about the bible should be considered "religious service" and that these people should either have to take it to a church or get a permit?
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Robor
Really? It's the nuisance? Thank you, Captain Obvious. :laugh:
That said, WTF did the officers question the people about what they were doing in the house? Seems to me they were trying to use the topic of the meeting to stop them. In the end, if the cars are parked illegally they should be ticketed and/or towed. If the cars are parked legally there's not much that can be said or done. Some neighbors are inconsiderate assholes. My friend has a renter next door with 3 cars, a boat, and a camper overflowing the driveway to the lawn.
Well, you seemed confused about it. Re-reading your comments simply reinforces that.
Regardless, it wasn't "officers," rather it was an "official." Furthermore, I don't know if I believe whether the official actually asked those questions, remember this is a completely one-sided account, but even if he or she did, it was only to obtain the nature of the meeting and whether it qualified as a religious service or not.
And still, regardless of your feelings on how to handle asshole neighbors, some people aren't so tolerant. I don't think it's overkill to simply complain to the proper authorities and then let them decide for themselves whether it's a violation or not. If someone feels it's a nuisance, I'd rather go through the proper channels to complain and have it dealt with. Wouldn't you?
Originally posted by: OCguy
Why is it your business to tell someone they cant have it in their own home?
If they are violating noise laws by "hootin and hollerin", then site them for that.
If they violate parking laws, site them for that.
If it is 15 people peacefully assembling in a home, it really isnt yours or the governments business what they are doing, as long as they are not violating any laws. Saying they are violating the law just by having 15 people together, no matter the frequency, is ludicrous at best.
Originally posted by: dawheat
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Robor
Really? It's the nuisance? Thank you, Captain Obvious. :laugh:
That said, WTF did the officers question the people about what they were doing in the house? Seems to me they were trying to use the topic of the meeting to stop them. In the end, if the cars are parked illegally they should be ticketed and/or towed. If the cars are parked legally there's not much that can be said or done. Some neighbors are inconsiderate assholes. My friend has a renter next door with 3 cars, a boat, and a camper overflowing the driveway to the lawn.
Well, you seemed confused about it. Re-reading your comments simply reinforces that.
Regardless, it wasn't "officers," rather it was an "official." Furthermore, I don't know if I believe whether the official actually asked those questions, remember this is a completely one-sided account, but even if he or she did, it was only to obtain the nature of the meeting and whether it qualified as a religious service or not.
And still, regardless of your feelings on how to handle asshole neighbors, some people aren't so tolerant. I don't think it's overkill to simply complain to the proper authorities and then let them decide for themselves whether it's a violation or not. If someone feels it's a nuisance, I'd rather go through the proper channels to complain and have it dealt with. Wouldn't you?
Just a note - that's multiple times you've called the pastor an asshole/asshat. Seriously - you don't know this guy at all, he hosts some of his congregation at his home every week, probably providing a meal to foster friendships, provides emotional and spiritual guidance that they find valuable. But b/c this may cause a nuisance parking for 1 guy that complained for a couple hours in the evening, he's an asshole.
Congrats for being a winning human being. I'm sure your response will be...at least I'm not a nuisance to my neighbor.
Originally posted by: Citrix
at first i was going to flame the county. but having 15 people over for church in a neighborhood is a bit much. if one of my neighbors did that i would be pissed as well. i don't care if it is bible study, poker night. the pastor is being a nussiance to his neighbors and i don't blame them for siccing the law on him.
15 people isnt bible study, its church.
What laws are they enforcing? The right to peaceful assembly?Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: shiner
Originally posted by: Citrix
at first i was going to flame the county. but having 15 people over for church in a neighborhood is a bit much. if one of my neighbors did that i would be pissed as well. i don't care if it is bible study, poker night. the pastor is being a nussiance to his neighbors and i don't blame them for siccing the law on him.
15 people isnt bible study, its church.
So what about a kid's birthday party? Say little Timmy had 10 friends over for his 6th birthday party. Each kid has a parent with them. Uh oh...20+ people are at Timmy's house. Better call the Po Po!!!
Seriously it's ridiculous that the freaking sheriff would get involved in something like that. I would think that maybe, just maybe the law enforcement officials in and around San Diego would have something better to do. Like...oh...I dunno....hunt down illegals, stop car theft, shut down meth labs, find Ryan Seacrest and kill him, etc, etc, etc....you know...real police work.
bday parties happen once a year not once a week. read my post again. its a nuisance to have that activity every week, if that many people attend they should go to their church.
the sheriffs dept job is to enforce all the laws not just the ones you seem to think arent that important.
Originally posted by: Citrix
at first i was going to flame the county. but having 15 people over for church in a neighborhood is a bit much. if one of my neighbors did that i would be pissed as well. i don't care if it is bible study, poker night. the pastor is being a nussiance to his neighbors and i don't blame them for siccing the law on him.
15 people isnt bible study, its church.
Originally posted by: ericlp
What some of you people don't understand is...... It might be 15 people today but what happens when these people start inviting/recruiting and getting the rest of the hoods in? The next thing you know you got 3-500 people stomping and clapping every Sunday.
No thanks.
Take it to a real church and get a permit.
Originally posted by: newmachineoverlord
According to my high school policy, more than two students gathered together constituted a gang and was forbidden. It is a violation of the constitution when applied to kids too.
Originally posted by: ericlp
What some of you people don't understand is...... It might be 15 people today but what happens when these people start inviting/recruiting and getting the rest of the hoods in? The next thing you know you got 3-500 people stomping and clapping every Sunday.
No thanks.
Take it to a real church and get a permit.
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: ericlp
What some of you people don't understand is...... It might be 15 people today but what happens when these people start inviting/recruiting and getting the rest of the hoods in? The next thing you know you got 3-500 people stomping and clapping every Sunday.
No thanks.
Take it to a real church and get a permit.
Ah the what if slippery slope.
Originally posted by: aeternitas
Looks like a group that is disturbing the peace is hiding behind religion, when the reason for the gathering is irrelevant.
Originally posted by: aeternitas
This thread isn't relevant, the link to the story is.
Originally posted by: aeternitas
My incorrect conclusion based on the story isn't relevant.