KMFJD
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They don't like food?What if the Venezuelan people don't want to return to the way it used to be?
The thing is, I meet the real Venezuelans, unlike you. I don't drink the koolaid, as I live next to where it's really happening. Why drink koolaid when you have the real stuff?
As I tell my friends who are angry at the lies, it really doesn't matter what the fools who blindly follow the MSM think. They and you have no power, only hot air, as in the empty vessels make the most noise.
Venezuela will be determined by those with the true influence and power to make change, whatever way it turns out. People like you can continue to spout nonsense, but enjoy your fantasies, they probably make you feel very important and an expert.
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I see you appealing to the 'sane lefties here' to ignore, not me, but the journalists with another narrative. If you're so sure of your 'truth', then why not be comfortable with them seeing another opinion or view? Why are you so scared? If it's bullshit being promoted by my posts, then they'll have a good laugh at my stupidity, or do you insult them by thinking they can't recognize that something doesn't smell right? They must be shepherded along.
Ever seen starvation?Yes and some of my extended family lives in Cúcuta, Colombia and gives first-hand reports about the large numbers of refugees streaming over from Venezuela and "meet the real Venezuelans" in the actual first-person sense, so what's your point? The situation in Venezuela sucks balls right now, has for some time, and this is way beyond whether personalities. The starving masses can't eat the empty promises of the "Bolivaran revolution" of Chavez and Maduro and now that oil isn't $120/barrel the whole facade is coming down.
Who ate all the zoo animals?...
All this starving bullshit narrative. ...
Good one.Who ate all the zoo animals?
Good one.
I guess the pets you see in the background of a few on the ground videos must taste bad.
You know what, I tend to agree, but if you have a Pol Pot like character with mass killings, I would support an armed invasion. The mere fact that Guaido can't mount a mass uprising should indicate that him and those behind him are fooling everyone. Yeah, he really has the pulse of the nation.Personally I don't give a shit if the Venezuelans eat dirt or the finest steak. My strong preference would be to leave them to rot like the U.S. tends to do with most of Africa and not intervene in any way. So long as they don't cause a refugee crisis in other nations they can live under whatever leadership they want. I have no stake in who runs their country and hope it stays that way.
You know what, I tend to agree, but if you have a Pol Pot like character with mass killings, I would support an armed invasion. The mere fact that Guaido can't mount a mass uprising should indicate that him and those behind him are fooling everyone. Yeah, he really has the pulse of the nation.
The fool is repeatedly running around openly in public calling for an overthrow and the majority are just going on as if he's not there. Is this some type of black comedy?
If someone points to a blue sky and tries to tell me it's green, I call BS.
It was just fake news for real.
Damn liberal media.
Bolton is pushing Trump to intervene in Venezuela now that the "coup" failed:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-senior-adviser-wants-075524455.html
I hate to believe anything Trump says but for once something he is saying seems highly likely to me.
Mr Trump has said Mr Maduro is a “tough cookie”, and that aides should not have led him to believe that the Venezuelan leader could be ousted last week, when Mr Guaidó led mass street protests that turned deadly.
- So shit failed and now its everybody elses fault. - 100% Trumpism.
Who knew toppling Venzuela was this complicated.
Comes right after speaking to Putin about Venezuela too. Wonder who Trump is parroting.Mr Trump has said Mr Maduro is a “tough cookie”, and that aides should not have led him to believe that the Venezuelan leader could be ousted last week, when Mr Guaidó led mass street protests that turned deadly.
- So shit failed and now its everybody elses fault. - 100% Trumpism.
Who knew toppling Venzuela was this complicated.
This period of history has allowed us an unprecedented window into a wider and deeper world than the keepers of the 'truth' would want to allow. It's on us to think and see as the info is easily available. There are many user supported sites with excellent analysis, real analysis, on world events. The fact the most of the MSM continually gets it wrong cannot be error. If they had no agenda, then you would expect a more equal right and wrong in their mistakes. Failing in one direction only over the years screams bias to push a narrative. All they really fight for is which group of elites gets to run things, and pulls the majority along for support.Mr Trump has said Mr Maduro is a “tough cookie”, and that aides should not have led him to believe that the Venezuelan leader could be ousted last week, when Mr Guaidó led mass street protests that turned deadly.
- So shit failed and now its everybody elses fault. - 100% Trumpism.
Who knew toppling Venzuela was this complicated.
You have to look to regimes, like China, NK and especially Russia for lessons on how to silence the masses even in the age of information. Putin is doing a good job of it.This period of history has allowed us an unprecedented window into a wider and deeper world than the keepers of the 'truth' would want to allow. It's on us to think and see as the info is easily available. There are many user supported sites with excellent analysis, real analysis, on world events. The fact the most of the MSM continually gets it wrong cannot be error. If they had no agenda, then you would expect a more equal right and wrong in their mistakes. Failing in one direction only over the years screams bias to push a narrative. All they really fight for is which group of elites gets to run things, and pulls the majority along for support.
there is a certain policy direction that all elite agree on, but maybe not on how to achieve it. That's why all the news, even his critics, will support certain things Trump does, mainly warlike actions. Then we have infighting to convince the rest of the population which elite group to support.
I often argue that the masses have more power than most realize. If they didn't, then why would the elites waste this effort and expense to convince us to support either side. No one spends billions annually to do something with no value. They are terrified of the masses turning against them, and I include the military and the police as they are for the most part, baring some sociopaths, normal ordinary people.
Don't we as the citizens of any country get a say? Do we allow ourselves to be merely led along to what the elites want? Do we really think they want the best for us vs themselves?
In my country, we have label 'die hards'' meaning those of any party who say 'I'm a XXXparty supporter until I die, no matter what they do'. I was never one to surrender my right to decide truth.
You have to look to regimes, like China, NK and especially Russia for lessons on how to silence the masses even in the age of information. Putin is doing a good job of it.
I personally think China and NK are guilty as you say, but not Russia as it is today vs the USSR. Hell, Larry King and other big american names are hosted on RT, and all claim journalistic freedom. Never happen in China & NK.You have to look to regimes, like China, NK and especially Russia for lessons on how to silence the masses even in the age of information. Putin is doing a good job of it.
I personally think China and NK are guilty as you say, but not Russia as it is today vs the USSR. Hell, Larry King and other big american names are hosted on RT, and all claim journalistic freedom. Never happen in China & NK.
Going online I can find many Russian sites that heavily criticize Putin. Ranging from oldstyle communists to modern pro EU and Western interests. China and NK are a totally different matter. I really don't trust the Chinese and their totalitarian ideology and my country is too small to have much leeway.
What pisses me off is the wasted opportunity that the West squandered early this century to truly ally with Russia. Putin requested to join NATO and integrate with Europe and was basically told to piss off. Maybe the Military Industrial Complex saw less profits in that. This will end up biting everyone in the arse, as now Russia & China are allies with the rest of Eurasia thinking of joining.
Elites have this sense of innate superiority that beggars the mind. True fools.
Should a put a /s after it.Never underestimate the ability of the Trump admin to manipulate the media. I seriously doubt complicity at the editorial level from either organization. It makes no sense.
Oh so now we're going to have this good cop bad cop routine. You know, no matter what, when the shit hits the fan, it definitely won't be Trumps fault. It never ever ever is.Mr Trump has said Mr Maduro is a “tough cookie”, and that aides should not have led him to believe that the Venezuelan leader could be ousted last week, when Mr Guaidó led mass street protests that turned deadly.
- So shit failed and now its everybody elses fault. - 100% Trumpism.
Who knew toppling Venzuela was this complicated.
Should a put a /s after it.
Russia was so weak then, that embracing them would have been achievable in my opinion. 2007 After this last chanceI think Putin understands that to keep the whole content he has to deal in the grey and operate in the shadows - instead of extremes like China and NK. He is by far the most capable opponent of the pack IMO. Extremely well oiled smooth running mafia state. He commands it all.
And yea, I dont know if I would have trusted Putin back in the 00's either, but having Russia as a productive member of NATO... Dream come true.