Couple abusing federal low income assistance by pretending to be poor

[bolido2000]

Yesterday I heard a story that at first sounds really dumb, but maybe they can pull it off because its one of those laws that the govt doesn't enforce....

Ok, so a friend was telling that an immigrant couple (they are US citizens tho) are abusing govt assistance in the following way; the couple transferred all of their assets to their relatives who live overseas. Then, the husband filed for divorce. Both the husband and wife are around 70 years old and the husband now gets monetary federal assistance and medical assistance for free from the government as "supposedly " he is old and doesn't have a single penny after the divorce. The wife carries on with a "normal" life paying taxes, buying stuff, etc.

The truth is that he still lives with his wife and carries on a rather "normal" life as well. His wife obviously pays for all the things he needs. Now, I doubt they are the first people who have thought of this, so does the government perform random audits to make sure that people REALLY are poor? The story sounds kind of retarded as its very easy for them to get busted. The monthly govt assistance is around $900, but he drives a car, eats food, and still lives with his wife even though they are divorced. I can see the IRS knocking on their doors in a few years, but is this one of those laws that the govt doesn't enforce very strongly?

 

[Modelworks]

Really this thing goes on every day.
And while the government may occasionally do a surprise visit, it doesn't happen often.
I know this because I have a cousin who is the head of the local social services office.

Right now the main problem they are having is illegals.
The mother comes here with the father and has children that are now american citizens by birth. The mother gets full medical, rent, food, electric, everything from the state because of the child. She reports the father as unknown. He still works, just does it cash only.

So a woman, has come here , had children, citizens support her, her children, and husband and none of them pay anything in taxes.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

reason #839 federal welfare is a failure

 

[KB]

Screwing the system... thats the American way!! Government handouts are always abused. I have known many people who continue to get unemployment while working on the side in cash.

 

[rezinn]

Yep, very common. I know of people who do this sort of thing and think it's just using the system to their advantage.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: rezinn
Yep, very common. I know of people who do this sort of thing and think it's just using the system to their advantage.

There are examples of this every day.
Our culture respects profit more than conscience.
Until that changes, nothing changes.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: KB
Screwing the system... thats the American way!! Government handouts are always abused. I have known many people who continue to get unemployment while working on the side in cash.

The general attitude that I've noticed here is that if a loophole exists, or if you can get away with something by the letter of the "law" (or store policy), there is nothing wrong with abusing the loophole. I wonder how many people will feel the same way when it's coming out of their tax dollars?

 

[summit]

wait you mean he gets a social security check for 900 a month? i dont know what other welfare a male can get who doesnt support children.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
reason #839999 bar federal welfare is a failure

fixed

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: bolido2000
Yesterday I heard a story that at first sounds really dumb, but maybe they can pull it off because its one of those laws that the govt doesn't enforce....

Ok, so a friend was telling that an immigrant couple (they are US citizens tho) are abusing govt assistance in the following way; the couple transferred all of their assets to their relatives who live overseas. Then, the husband filed for divorce. Both the husband and wife are around 70 years old and the husband now gets monetary federal assistance and medical assistance for free from the government as "supposedly " he is old and doesn't have a single penny after the divorce. The wife carries on with a "normal" life paying taxes, buying stuff, etc.

The truth is that he still lives with his wife and carries on a rather "normal" life as well. His wife obviously pays for all the things he needs. Now, I doubt they are the first people who have thought of this, so does the government perform random audits to make sure that people REALLY are poor? The story sounds kind of retarded as its very easy for them to get busted. The monthly govt assistance is around $900, but he drives a car, eats food, and still lives with his wife even though they are divorced. I can see the IRS knocking on their doors in a few years, but is this one of those laws that the govt doesn't enforce very strongly?

Get me a name an address. Not only is it criminal fraud, the IRS does pay awards to those that point out little things like this.....

 

[CorCentral]

(Damn. missed the QUOTE button!)
The quote was to go to "bsobel"


If you owe back taxes, I'd report 'em!

I remember owing 2 years of back taxes. The IRS set me up with a mtly payment plan of $300+/mth of which I never missed a single payment........ At the time I knew of someone that was working and not paying taxes.

The IRS gave me a nice break on my own taxes for reporting them

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: bolido2000
Yesterday I heard a story that at first sounds really dumb, but maybe they can pull it off because its one of those laws that the govt doesn't enforce....

Ok, so a friend was telling that an immigrant couple (they are US citizens tho) are abusing govt assistance in the following way; the couple transferred all of their assets to their relatives who live overseas. Then, the husband filed for divorce. Both the husband and wife are around 70 years old and the husband now gets monetary federal assistance and medical assistance for free from the government as "supposedly " he is old and doesn't have a single penny after the divorce. The wife carries on with a "normal" life paying taxes, buying stuff, etc.

The truth is that he still lives with his wife and carries on a rather "normal" life as well. His wife obviously pays for all the things he needs. Now, I doubt they are the first people who have thought of this, so does the government perform random audits to make sure that people REALLY are poor? The story sounds kind of retarded as its very easy for them to get busted. The monthly govt assistance is around $900, but he drives a car, eats food, and still lives with his wife even though they are divorced. I can see the IRS knocking on their doors in a few years, but is this one of those laws that the govt doesn't enforce very strongly?

No, they really don't. Hell, I know a woman who's accountant has her filing as head of household every year and she gets like four thousand dollars back. She isn't married, has no children and no dependants. She definitely doesn't qualify to file head of household. I'd hate to be her when the government figures that one out...at the very least she'll have to pay all that money back.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: KB
Screwing the system... thats the American way!! Government handouts are always abused. I have known many people who continue to get unemployment while working on the side in cash.

The general attitude that I've noticed here is that if a loophole exists, or if you can get away with something by the letter of the "law" (or store policy), there is nothing wrong with abusing the loophole. I wonder how many people will feel the same way when it's coming out of their tax dollars?

That's not a loophole though. That's fraud.

Two completely different things.

 

[alkemyst]

most people on disability don't need it and are working under the table at other places.

All the gov't has to go on is taxes and people turning them in.