Couple of build questions

SpeedFreak03

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Pretty soon, I'm going to be doing a big upgrade, including cpu, ram, and mobo. Anyway, i'm still confused about which mobo to go with (but of the couple i chose they are all nforce2). But I have some questions about the other components:

CPU
I've decided on a barton2500, because of the 512kb cache NewEgg, retail). Anyway, the AthlonXP 2600+ can be had for $99 (NewEgg). This runs at 2.08GHz, while the 2500 runs at 1.83GHz. So what my question is, what is faster? 2.08GHz with 256kb cache, or 1.83GHz with 512kb cache? The $11 price difference isn't a factor.

RAM
This is the biggest delemma. First of all, I'm not going to overclock. Second, is it worth it to me, a mandrake linux user (and winXP on the side), who doesn't do much gaming (GTA Vice City, UT2K03), to have "top" quality ram (to me anyway lol) such as Kingston HyperX/HyperZ? Or can I just use the cheap "whatever-is-on-sale-at-compusa" stuff? What I mean is that for the money I save, is the performance/stabilty hit (if any) worth it? One last thing. Amount. First, is that "Dual Channel" (I think its called, but its the thing where having 2 sticks is faster than 1) thing worth it? For example, I plan on having 1GB of ram, sooner or later, but Im gonna start out with 512MB. I wanna just get 1 stick of 512 now, then in like a year (or whenever funds allow) get another stick of 512. During that year or whatever that I run with one stick, will i see a noticable performance hit?

PSU
Right now I have an L&C 350W ATX psu, which is P4 compliant, and comes with the little 12V jack, which came with a case I bought from electroseller.com. Now this is what you would call a generic PSU. For my Pentium 3 500MHz, 1 agp card, 4pci cards, 1hdd, 2 optical drives, and 4 fans (not including psu), it works fine, and has since I bought it a year ago. Now I understand that a much powerful system will put a strain on it, but how long do you think it will last? Should I wait till I have enough $$$ to purchase a new one? I usually run the system from 2PM-10/11PM, but every once and a while i run it all night (2PM - 7/8AM).

HSF
OK this is the last question. From the prices I've seen on newegg, its usually cheaper (or sometimes like a $1 or 2 more) to get the retail cpu, which comes with a HSF. Is this good enough? I don't plan to overclock, and am just worried about noise. Is this one pretty quiet? I'm gonna use AS3. I really don't want to have to spend another $20-30, but if I have to I will.

Sorry for the extra long post, but I want to get all my questions answered. Thanks in advance!

-Josh S.

EDIT: Fixed Links.
 

boyRacer

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CPU:
Id go with the Barton.

RAM:
Dual channel or 1GB of ram isn't worth it if you're just a casual user... and don't go for the whatever is on sale brand ram. Crucial works fine in my bros rig. No fancy heatspreaders or anything.

PSU:
I would get a better PS if you're buying new components. I wouldn't risk anything new on generic PSs... it could wipe them all out.

HSF:
The retail HSF are fine since you're not going to overclock. As far as noise... frankly retail fans never did bother me but it seems like some people have super hearing and buy something quieter. The Zalmans work nice and are very quiet but I honestly don't think you need it.

Good luck.
 

SpeedFreak03

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Thanks for the quick response boyracer! Yeah I was looking around, and I can afford a decent psu, such as this allied 400w: NewEgg. Not the refurb, but the top one ($30). Do you think this is good enough? Thanks again, Josh
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: SpeedFreak03
Thanks for the quick response boyracer! Yeah I was looking around, and I can afford a decent psu, such as this allied 400w: NewEgg. Not the refurb, but the top one ($30). Do you think this is good enough? Thanks again, Josh

Personally... I would just put another $20 and get an Antec or something and not worry about it after that. The Allied you pointed out has gotten good reviews though and some people here even recommend them... sorry I can't help you much regarding that. Maybe there's someone else here that can give more input.
 

tbates757

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Originally posted by: LbJustinTime
Do you plan on Overclocking?

Since I'm positive you read the entire post before you posted P), he stated "First of all, I'm not going to overclock."

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LbJustinTime

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Originally posted by: LbJustinTime
Do you plan on Overclocking?

Since I'm positive you read the entire post before you posted P), he stated "First of all, I'm not going to overclock."

lol

I swear i read the whole post.. Just tired.
 

SpeedFreak03

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As far as the PSU goes, I talked to a friend today, and he recommended this one: NewEgg. It's the top one, not the one with the blue fans. Anyway, do you guys think that 350W is enough? I don't plan to add anything as far as hdd goes, but i plan to replace the cdrw with a dvd writer when the technology is better/faster/cheaper. And justin, I don't plan to overclock lol. I was tired when I wrote the post, so if you guys need anything clarified just say the word! Thanks again, Josh
 

boyRacer

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350w is fine. my bro is running a 2100+@2700...1gb ram... 3 Hds Raid 0... 2 optical drives and a 9700... rock solid.
 

SpeedFreak03

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Thats good about the PSU then. So heres my plan: I found this stick of Corsair DDR400 512MB here: NewEgg. I'm gonna go with that, unless this is bad ram. I'm going with the Barton 2500 retail cpu, and using the retail hsf. And I'm going with the Antec 350W PSU here: NewEgg. Now I have another question about motherboards. I really like this board: NewEgg. It would be perfect for me, as it has everything I need. The only thing I need to know is if this is a quality board. Does anybody have this board? If this does turn out to be a good board, then I will certainly buy it! Thanks again for all your guy's help, and boyracer, enjoy your new rating
 
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