Couple of firsts for me today at work

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Conky

Lifer
May 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
I despise child molestors but why were you looking through this guys stuff?

When I repair peoples systems I do what ever it takes to get it fixed and that's it. I respect a customer's privacy even if they are dirtbags.

It wasn't exaclty hidden...in fact, it wasn't hidden at all.
Sounds like a tard. Anyway, I am glad you contacted the cops for his kiddy porn. That is the vilest crime there is outside of actual child molesting which that kind of porn only encourages.


 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Colt45
Just cause the guy had mein kampf doesn't make him a nazi.

or did they outlaw books in the US now too?

Continuing on that thought; I actually sought out the Anarchists' Cookbook.

I think I have to write a letter to Homeland Security about you.

Done and done
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Colt45
Just cause the guy had mein kampf doesn't make him a nazi.

or did they outlaw books in the US now too?

No, it makes him a goth, which is 1000x worse.

...What?

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Heh, don't even get me started...

I think it's too late for that
 

Colt45

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Colt45
Just cause the guy had mein kampf doesn't make him a nazi.

or did they outlaw books in the US now too?

Who called him a nazi?

That was just my assumption when you said offbeat.
I despise fascism, but I don't see a problem with books. I'm kinda curious about the book, perhaps I'll read it someday.
 
May 16, 2000
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I have both of those on my system right now along with an al qaeda training manual and a bunch of other military and para-military manuals. Although the Mein Kampf is there for my Nazi Germany class, the others are purely recreational reading.

Remind me not to hire you for anything.
 

halik

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
I despise child molestors but why were you looking through this guys stuff?

When I repair peoples systems I do what ever it takes to get it fixed and that's it. I respect a customer's privacy even if they are dirtbags.

It wasn't exaclty hidden...in fact, it wasn't hidden at all.


are we talking about child pornography or jailbait porn?
 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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Realisticallt, I bet the cops cant do anything. You or they had n right to view his private data so I bet a lawyer would chew this up easily if it ever went to court... It's like when a cop finds evidence during an illegal search (no warrant) then even if the evidence is a video of the guy committing a murder it is not admissable in court.

edit: furthemore this guy is probably going to want to kill you now and probably knows where to find you...

 

ijester

Senior member
Aug 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: lozina
Realisticallt, I bet the cops cant do anything. You or they had n right to view his private data so I bet a lawyer would chew this up easily if it ever went to court... It's like when a cop finds evidence during an illegal search (no warrant) then even if the evidence is a video of the guy committing a murder it is not admissable in court.

edit: furthemore this guy is probably going to want to kill you now and probably knows where to find you...

Actually, a private citizen working on a computer that finds stuff in plain sight is perfectly legal evidence. Nothing at all like the cops.

 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: ijester
Originally posted by: lozina
Realisticallt, I bet the cops cant do anything. You or they had n right to view his private data so I bet a lawyer would chew this up easily if it ever went to court... It's like when a cop finds evidence during an illegal search (no warrant) then even if the evidence is a video of the guy committing a murder it is not admissable in court.

edit: furthemore this guy is probably going to want to kill you now and probably knows where to find you...

Actually, a private citizen working on a computer that finds stuff in plain sight is perfectly legal evidence. Nothing at all like the cops.

Especially when the customer authorizes the business to access the data on his computer.
 

intogamer

Lifer
Dec 5, 2004
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How the bloody hell can you even run Norton!

With my experiences with spyware and viruses it lags up the computer!
 

DaiShan

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Ktulu
wow how was that computer even functioning with that many viruses/trojans

It wasn't really. That scan was done on another machine with an ext. drive enclosure.

Didn't think to use safe mode??
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Ktulu
wow how was that computer even functioning with that many viruses/trojans

It wasn't really. That scan was done on another machine with an ext. drive enclosure.

Didn't think to use safe mode??

::sigh::

It's much easier to just pop the HD into an enclosure on another system than it is to boot into Safe Mode and have to deal with Spyware that loads with SafeMode and reloads itself when closed in Safe Mode, and has all sorts of mechanisms to stay on the computer. 5 minutes to pop it out, a much faster scan, and 5 minutes to pop it back in.

I'm assuming you've never had to deal with especially vicious Spyware.
 

Howard

Lifer
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Brings up an interesting philosophical argument. Is it better to respect the client's privacy, or to go LoKe on the child porn in order to [potentially] save children from harm?
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Howard
Brings up an interesting philosophical argument. Is it better to respect the client's privacy, or to go LoKe on the child porn in order to [potentially] save children from harm?

The client has no privacy. If they're paying me to sift through their HD and clean all the crap off of the HD, they better not have anything on there that would jeopardize my operations or me operating within the confines of the law.

The ethical question would be whether or not to report the child porn, because in order to know it was child porn, you'd have to have looked at it. In the eyes' of the law, that makes you just as guilty as the perp. Which is why you're supposed to call the authorities if you assume there is child porn on the computer.
 

Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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Man, I'm glad you didn't work at the book store where I was checking out mein kampf. I'd have been arrested for reading a book that has nothing to do w/ me being a Nazi.

BTW, LOL @ OP using NAV.
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Colt45
Just cause the guy had mein kampf doesn't make him a nazi.

or did they outlaw books in the US now too?

Who called him a nazi?

That was just my assumption when you said offbeat.
I despise fascism, but I don't see a problem with books. I'm kinda curious about the book, perhaps I'll read it someday.

Not at all, off beat could even be a good thing. Obviously in this case, it isn't.
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I have both of those on my system right now along with an al qaeda training manual and a bunch of other military and para-military manuals. Although the Mein Kampf is there for my Nazi Germany class, the others are purely recreational reading.

Remind me not to hire you for anything.

I know the OP looked like it might be a long read for you, but the mein kampf blurb was just the first part.

I could care less if a customer has mein kampf, swastikas, or anything else relating to nazi germany. That wasn't why the cops were called.
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
I despise child molestors but why were you looking through this guys stuff?

When I repair peoples systems I do what ever it takes to get it fixed and that's it. I respect a customer's privacy even if they are dirtbags.

It wasn't exaclty hidden...in fact, it wasn't hidden at all.


are we talking about child pornography or jailbait porn?

child pornography
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: ijester
Originally posted by: lozina
Realisticallt, I bet the cops cant do anything. You or they had n right to view his private data so I bet a lawyer would chew this up easily if it ever went to court... It's like when a cop finds evidence during an illegal search (no warrant) then even if the evidence is a video of the guy committing a murder it is not admissable in court.

edit: furthemore this guy is probably going to want to kill you now and probably knows where to find you...

Actually, a private citizen working on a computer that finds stuff in plain sight is perfectly legal evidence. Nothing at all like the cops.

Actually, the cops just documented what they saw as my co-worker searched the machine for them. After the initial portion of files that prompted the call to the police, there we also some "hidden" folders.
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: Ktulu
wow how was that computer even functioning with that many viruses/trojans

It wasn't really. That scan was done on another machine with an ext. drive enclosure.

Didn't think to use safe mode??

::sigh::

It's much easier to just pop the HD into an enclosure on another system than it is to boot into Safe Mode and have to deal with Spyware that loads with SafeMode and reloads itself when closed in Safe Mode, and has all sorts of mechanisms to stay on the computer. 5 minutes to pop it out, a much faster scan, and 5 minutes to pop it back in.

I'm assuming you've never had to deal with especially vicious Spyware.

exactly
 
Dec 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Howard
Brings up an interesting philosophical argument. Is it better to respect the client's privacy, or to go LoKe on the child porn in order to [potentially] save children from harm?

The client has no privacy. If they're paying me to sift through their HD and clean all the crap off of the HD, they better not have anything on their that would jeopardize my operations or me operating within the confines of the law.

The ethical question would be whether or not to report the child porn, because in order to know it was child porn, you'd have to have looked at it. In the eyes' of the law, that makes you just as guilty as the perp. Which is why you're supposed to call the authorities if you assume there is child porn on the computer.

I didn't have to watch anything to know it was child pornography. They were mpegs and windows provided thumbnails, that's all I needed to see to call.
 
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