Covidiots thread

[eikelbijter]

Lol ‘indiscriminately’.

I guess that’s what comes from either not understanding English or being a huge liar.

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Indiscriminately definition, without exercising discernment or making appropriate distinctions

I'm not sure what you're getting at. That's what a mandate is in essence, an indiscriminate rule. Of course there can be exceptions but the main mantra is EVERYBODY that fits the category HAS to do it.

 

[MrSquished]

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Indiscriminately definition, without exercising discernment or making appropriate distinctions

I'm not sure what you're getting at. That's what a mandate is in essence, an indiscriminate rule. Of course there can be exceptions but the main mantra is EVERYBODY that fits the category HAS to do it.

You should post the whole definition, it shows that the stuff indiscriminately is just simply used incorrectly. It doesn't fit.

 

[NWRMidnight]

This is about humans, and the English are not THAT different from the Americans. Well, I guess the latter's children are far more obese, which IS a serious comorbidity. Your water analogy is preposterous, I wont even go there...

Whole point I was trying to make was, that believing under 18s should be vaccinated indiscriminately is NOT accepted science worldwide, it just isn't. In the black & white world of THIS forum you guys seem to only want to have it either/or but it's not that simple.

You are a fucking idiot. There's a fast differences in immune system, environment, and healthcare wise that directly influence every fucking aspect of how one country's citizens vs another are effected, react, and fight the virus. If you actually understood that, you would understand my water analogy.

Even people who live in the same area can have vastly different results due to differences in their environment, diet, sanitation of their living environment that directly influences ones immune system.

But you to fucking dumb to even understand any of that, and seem to have zero clue about vaccines where you go off and try to argue that vaccinations are not an acceptable Science world wide. Something you seem to think means something. It doesn't mean Jack shit and has zero relevancy. We are not talking about the world you stupid fuck! We are talking about the USA, one of the most medically advanced countries in the world. What hinders us is our healthcare system structure (affordability), not the medical knowledge behind it. If humans where "relativity" the same around the world, then why are their vast differences between the health of the citizens of each country and how they react to this virus and others?

 

[fskimospy]

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Indiscriminately definition, without exercising discernment or making appropriate distinctions

I'm not sure what you're getting at. That's what a mandate is in essence, an indiscriminate rule. Of course there can be exceptions but the main mantra is EVERYBODY that fits the category HAS to do it.

Except of course the mandate has provisions to exempt those with medical issues from it, which is exactly the ‘appropriate distinction’ to be made. Everyone else should get it because, well, duh.

It’s okay that you didn’t understand the word, English isn’t your first language and it’s a hard one to learn!

 

[Muse]

1. Strange semantics there buddy, but OK. I said how we dealt with it AND are dealing with it. We should have know that Osterholm was right all along, and that we CAN'T stop this thing. Influenza is even worse, but Corona mutates SO readily, we just can't a vaccine right now that has any lasting protection against infection. I think the manufacturers KNEW it, but now we all know.

But guess what, our hospitals here have no problem and haven't for a while. I'm not saying we won't, but so far it seems like Omicron is less serious than Delta and we have a LOT of people with natural immunity and/or vaccines. At the same time, I remember MULTIPLE times when a bad flu epidemic caused beds in the hallways of the hospitals too. Don't get me wrong, I KNOW that Covid is probably 4 times as deadly as a bad flu.

That said, unless we force EVERYONE to get a booster every six months, it's silly to force anyone to get one. Now again, I've recommended 2 friends to get it. I'm not against it AT ALL. I'm against forcing people to take it. And in all honesty, I don't want to take this booster. MAYBE one made for Omicron or newer, but from what I've read, sterilizing protection from a booster now is only 2 months or so. I had my original vaccination 4 months ago or so.

2. I'm not sure which bolded text you mean.

3. Your question is tricky of course with an escape valve built in: "of similar makeup". I would say that Holland is similar enough in its genetic makeup, with a relatively healthy active population and diet, similar rates of obesity. Just looked it up:

Sweden	20.60%	10,160,169
Slovakia	20.50%	5,460,721
Netherlands	20.40%	17,173,099

Of course there are differences in population density and such, but Holland doesn't have any mega cities, or slums, and Stockholm is about the same size as Amsterdam:
Amsterdam/Population
821,752 (2015)


Stockholm/Population
975,551 (Dec 31, 2020)

I've seen a few documentaries about Sweden's approach and I PROMISE YOU, there is a LOT less damage done to its society as compared to Holland.

4. I completely agree with your assessment of lockdowns.

Looks to me after scanning a dozen responses in this thread in a row that it has (at least at this point) deteriorated into an exchange between 2 posters. Maybe the two of you should take it to PMs. I mean, it's impossible to figure out where the two of you are getting and clearly not worth the trouble to try.

I'm against forcing people to take it.

Fortunately, your stance there doesn't count for shit.

What the fuck is with you? They make it illegal to ride a motorcycle without wearing a helmet. Why? It endangers the rider. You have to wear a seat belt. It protects you. They're "forcing people." Forcing people to get vaccinated protects them against getting sick, getting fucked up for life (long covid), dying, taking up resources in the health care system that could be used for other purposes, very very expensive resources. BUT, their refusing to get vaxxed not only endangers them it endangers everyone else. People refusing to get vaccinated is making life a living hell for health care workers. Their suffering as well as that of their family and friends and the professionals caring for them, is unimaginable. As well, the antivaxxers are fucking up the world and local economies and are FUCKING UP MY LIFE. Yes, I have to put off needed medical attention, I have to forgo doing things I'd like to do with my life. What the fuck is with you?

 

[Heartbreaker]

I'm against forcing people to take it. And in all honesty, I don't want to take this booster.

Just standard antivaxx BS.

Have you considered running for Governor of Florida? You could pass laws banning mandates aimed at slowing CV. It seems like a perfect fit for you.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Super genius Ted Cruz sees tweet about WA Government strictly banning dancing at parties (as a Covid distancing measure), and indignantly tweets:

“Blue-state Dems are power-drunk authoritarian kill-joys.
Washington State: NO DANCING ALLOWED!!!
Any rational & free citizen: Piss off.”

And, actually. "WA" Government is Western Australia, not Washington.

Ted Cruz mistakes 'Western Australia' for 'Washington State' in botched attack on 'power-drunk' Dems

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz apparently confused "Western Australia" with "Washington State" in an attempted attack on Democrats over COVID-19 restrictions on Wednesday night. On Twitter, Cruz falsely suggested that "Washington State" had banned dancing at private parties on New Year's Eve...

www.rawstory.com

Don't worry - I’m sure he’ll find a way to blame his children for this.

 

[Muse]

Just standard antivaxx BS.

Have you considered running for Governor of Florida? You could pass laws banning mandates aimed at slowing CV. It seems like a perfect fit for you.

It is BS, that poster is messed up.

 

[soundforbjt]

Heard from a friend today that two friends got the virus this week, neither was vaccinated, one waited until he was so sick he had to call his son to take him to the hospital. SMH.

 

[MtnMan]

I listen to fire and EMS units being dispatched at times during the day.

There are the expected calls, accidents, chest pains, heart attacks, strokes.

The two types that are becoming dominate and are at least 50% of the calls I hear

... overdoses, which seem to mostly be in parked cars at a fast food place or other store...

... and difficulty breathing with COVID symptoms, or a positive COVID test. Heard one today, one person, and one 3-year-old difficultly breathing coughing up blood, etc., ... use full PPE, the entire family has COVID.

 

[shortylickens]

Because courage is apparently flexible.

206 Marines discharged for refusing COVID-19 vaccine - UPI.com

A total of 206 Marines have been discharged after refusing to comply with the Pentagon's COVID-19 mandate, a Marine Corps representative said Thursday.

www.upi.com

 

[MtnMan]

Because courage is apparently flexible.

206 Marines discharged for refusing COVID-19 vaccine - UPI.com

A total of 206 Marines have been discharged after refusing to comply with the Pentagon's COVID-19 mandate, a Marine Corps representative said Thursday.

www.upi.com

I saw a Marine pass out, getting a shot in sick bay.

 

[Muse]

Because courage is apparently flexible.

206 Marines discharged for refusing COVID-19 vaccine - UPI.com

A total of 206 Marines have been discharged after refusing to comply with the Pentagon's COVID-19 mandate, a Marine Corps representative said Thursday.

www.upi.com

IMO, the US is better protected with those 206 people being civilians.

 

[Muse]

Super genius Ted Cruz sees tweet about WA Government strictly banning dancing at parties (as a Covid distancing measure), and indignantly tweets:
-snip-
And, actually. "WA" Government is Western Australia, not Washington.

When you're senator from Texas brains don't help. I sincerely believe that.

 

[pmv]

Because courage is apparently flexible.

206 Marines discharged for refusing COVID-19 vaccine - UPI.com

A total of 206 Marines have been discharged after refusing to comply with the Pentagon's COVID-19 mandate, a Marine Corps representative said Thursday.

www.upi.com

I was playing one of the versions of Civilization recently, and was wondering why it is that "marines" in that game only become available as a unit type, once you develop penicillin. Couldn't see what the connection was.

Then I had the thought that maybe that feature was added by someone who had served in the regular army, and they were making an indirect comment about the habits of those in the rival branch and the kind of 'shots' they end up needing to have. I wonder if that was some sort of very subtle intra-service dig?

 

[pmv]

Disappointing. Strange that so many got the first two jabs and then decide to opt-out of the booster.

I was a little apprehensive about it (was half-inclined to wait till I'd seen the endocrinologist about my thyroid thing) but on the day decided it was best to just get it over with while it was on offer. Seeing the figures about omicron I'm glad I did.

Huge numbers of people in England ‘not turning up for Covid booster jabs’

Health leaders report some clinics are only a third full as ministers claim to have met target

www.theguardian.com

A huge number of people in England are not turning up for their Covid vaccine appointments, health leaders have said, saying as many as 40% of bookings are missed.

 

[IronWing]

Super genius Ted Cruz sees tweet about WA Government strictly banning dancing at parties (as a Covid distancing measure), and indignantly tweets:

“Blue-state Dems are power-drunk authoritarian kill-joys.
Washington State: NO DANCING ALLOWED!!!
Any rational & free citizen: Piss off.”

And, actually. "WA" Government is Western Australia, not Washington.

Ted Cruz mistakes 'Western Australia' for 'Washington State' in botched attack on 'power-drunk' Dems

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz apparently confused "Western Australia" with "Washington State" in an attempted attack on Democrats over COVID-19 restrictions on Wednesday night. On Twitter, Cruz falsely suggested that "Washington State" had banned dancing at private parties on New Year's Eve...

www.rawstory.com

Don't worry - I’m sure he’ll find a way to blame his children for this.

Cruz is a Southern Baptist and he's bitching about a ban on dancing? The man needs some self awareness.

 

[pmv]

Cruz is a Southern Baptist and he's bitching about a ban on dancing? The man needs some self awareness.

What is the origin of the phrase "that could lead to dancing"?

Answer (1 of 3): Here’s the version I heard. A man wanted to convert to Orthodox Judaism. The rabbi invited him to a party so he could get to see jews having fun, and the man noticed that the men danced together, and the women danced together, but men and women never danced together. When he ask...

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A man wanted to convert to Orthodox Judaism. The rabbi invited him to a party so he could get to see jews having fun, and the man noticed that the men danced together, and the women danced together, but men and women never danced together. When he asked the Rabbi, he was told that in their faith it was forbidden for men and women to dance with each other.

The man became worried that maybe he had gotten himself into something he really couldn’t believe in. When he got the Rabbi alone, he asked, “What about sex?’

The Rabbi replied, “Within the marriage, sex is a mitzvah, a blessing.”

“Any restrictions on that?” The man asked. “Woman on top? Rear entry? Standing up?”

“No! No!” the Rabbi exclaimed. “Not standing up! It might lead to dancing.”

I've heard that joke being told about both Orthodox Jews and Baptists.

 

[Muse]

Disappointing. Strange that so many got the first two jabs and then decide to opt-out of the booster.

I was a little apprehensive about it (was half-inclined to wait till I'd seen the endocrinologist about my thyroid thing) but on the day decided it was best to just get it over with while it was on offer. Seeing the figures about omicron I'm glad I did.

Huge numbers of people in England ‘not turning up for Covid booster jabs’

Health leaders report some clinics are only a third full as ministers claim to have met target

www.theguardian.com

I got my booster ASAfuckingP, just like my first two shots. It'll be the same if and when a 4th shot is available to me.

 

[hal2kilo]

Super genius Ted Cruz sees tweet about WA Government strictly banning dancing at parties (as a Covid distancing measure), and indignantly tweets:

“Blue-state Dems are power-drunk authoritarian kill-joys.
Washington State: NO DANCING ALLOWED!!!
Any rational & free citizen: Piss off.”

And, actually. "WA" Government is Western Australia, not Washington.

Ted Cruz mistakes 'Western Australia' for 'Washington State' in botched attack on 'power-drunk' Dems

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz apparently confused "Western Australia" with "Washington State" in an attempted attack on Democrats over COVID-19 restrictions on Wednesday night. On Twitter, Cruz falsely suggested that "Washington State" had banned dancing at private parties on New Year's Eve...

www.rawstory.com

Don't worry - I’m sure he’ll find a way to blame his children for this.

Saw a thing on MSNBC about it, it even got Jim Carrey's attention. Can't find the twitter, link as I don't and am not.

 

[gothuevos]

IMO, the US is better protected with those 206 people being civilians.

Depends on how many join militias and what inside information they share.

 

[Heartbreaker]

I got my booster ASAfuckingP, just like my first two shots. It'll be the same if and when a 4th shot is available to me.

It helps:

Covid booster 88% effective against hospital treatment with Omicron

UK health officials said the latest data reinforces the importance of getting a third dose.

www.bbc.com

It found that a single vaccine dose reduced the risk of needing hospital treatment by 52%. Adding the second dose increased the protection to 72%, although after 25 weeks that protection had faded to 52%.
And two weeks after getting a third dose, that protection against hospitalisation was boosted to 88%.

 

[compcons]

Maybe someday we can find a way to deploy vaccines via pills so we can take them monthly in our homes. I will get the 4th, 5th, 6th,nth until the dumbasses who keep the going all die off.

 

[eelw]

Maybe someday we can find a way to deploy vaccines via pills so we can take them monthly in our homes. I will get the 4th, 5th, 6th,nth until the dumbasses who keep the going all die off.

Hell if this is what it takes, this is what everyone has to do. Prolonged by the stubborn and idiotic.

 

[Muse]

Depends on how many join militias and what inside information they share.

I don't see them doing that. Anyway, if the intelligence agencies fear them they have a head start. They know exactly who they are.

In recent years the "militias" haven't been doing so well, except for Jan. 6, which was a face palm. It's mostly the lone nuts who are succeeding in their acts of terror.