A lot of untold stories about people either not getting care of getting substandard care because MGATS want to own the libs and respect their freedom.A veteran hailing from Texas just died of gallstone complications because the ICU beds were full.
Veteran dies of treatable illness as COVID fills hospital beds, leaving doctors "playing musical chairs"
The surge in new COVID cases is putting an enormous strain on hospitals, jeopardizing patients who cannot get the medical attention they need because of a lack of space.www.cbsnews.com
Out of curiosity, what preceded point one? Why did those antivaxx groups decide they wanted Invermectin in the first place?
Pierre Kory and the Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC)
In December 2020, Chair of the US Senate Homeland Security Committee Ron Johnson used a Senate hearing to promote fringe theories about, and unproven treatments for, COVID-19, including ivermectin.[470] Among the witnesses was Pierre Kory, a pulmonary and critical care doctor, who erroneously described ivermectin as "miraculous" and a "wonder drug" to be used against COVID-19. Video footage of his statements went viral on social media, receiving over one million views as of 11 December.[440] In the United Kingdom, Andrew Hill, a senior research fellow at Liverpool University, posted a video of a draft meta-analysis that went viral before it was removed.[453] An evidence-based review of Hill's paper by scientists at the Interdisciplinary Centre for Health Studies in Valparaíso, Chile found "serious methodological limitations" which cast the findings into doubt.[438]
In the United States, the use of ivermectin for COVID-19 is championed by an organization led by Kory called Frontline COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC),[453] which promotes "the global movement to move #Ivermectin into the mainstream".[442] The effort has gone viral on social media, where it has been adopted by COVID deniers, anti-vaccination proponents, and conspiracy theorists.[442] A review article by FLCCC members on the efficacy of ivermectin, which had been provisionally accepted by a Frontiers in Pharmacology, was subsequently rejected on account of what the publisher called "a series of strong, unsupported claims based on studies with insufficient statistical significance" meaning that the article did "not offer an objective [or] balanced scientific contribution to the evaluation of ivermectin as a potential treatment for COVID-19".[471] David Gorski has written that the narrative of ivermectin as a "miracle cure" for COVID-19 is a "metastasized" version of a similar conspiracy theory around the drug hydroxychloroquine, in which unspecified powers are thought to be suppressing news of the drug's effectiveness for their own profit.[472]
Bad paper, spun by this guy at Senate Hearing went Viral:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_misinformation#Ivermectin
A lot of untold stories about people either not getting care of getting substandard care because MGATS want to own the libs and respect their freedom.
Then they end up in the hospital and some of them are like oops. To late fuckhead, you are contributing to the demise of someone else
Pieces of shit
Our regional hospital administration got on local news and sounded like mafiosos--"Gee, it'd be a real shame if someone suffered an accident over the next week or so."
Apparently, EMS staff are complaining because they can't even drop off patients at hospitals--one crew had to wait THREE HOURS in the waiting room with someone needing an ED bed. I guess by law they can't leave until their patient is admitted into hospital care, meaning that crew couldn't take any other calls.
Drive extra safe out there and lay off the extreme sports for a while.
So what? There's only one real solution, which is for nearly everybody to be vaxxed. The rest of it is just bullshitting away from the truth.
So what? Seriously? Vaccines are a part of the solution but they don't appear to be the "one real" solution at all.
Experts are now saying that the Delta variant makes herd immunity impossible.
Reaching herd immunity is “not a possibility” with the current Delta variant, the head of the Oxford Vaccine Group has said.
Giving evidence to MPs on Tuesday, Prof Sir Andrew Pollard said the fact that vaccines did not stop the spread of Covid meant reaching the threshold for overall immunity in the population was “mythical”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical
We currently have nothing that will completely stop transmission. The CDC says the viral load of vaccinated people with breakthrough cases is the same as in unvaccinated people.
Documents shared at the confidential congressional briefing also show that vaccine efficacy has taken a hit from delta. The CDC estimates efficacy may be 75 to 85 percent against the new variant rather than 94 percent effective or more against the original COVID-19 strain.
There are 35,000 symptomatic breakthrough cases each week, the presentation shows.
Up to 15 percent of deaths in May were among vaccinated people, the presentation shows. That contrasts with previous public CDC data showing deaths occur in a tiny number of vaccinated people, just 0.0005 percent. https://www.rollcall.com/2021/07/30/cdc-report-shows-vaccinated-people-can-spread-covid-19/
Even if everyone were vaxxed, covid is not going away. People will still be spreading and dying from covid. It is time to turn a much greater focus toward treatment options and nothing should be off the table especially off label trials of existing drugs which have been proven safe. Before anyone tries to twist my words, I don't recommend at home trials of any "prevention, cure, etc" you've researched on TikTok. Leave the trials to the experts.
So what? Seriously? Vaccines are a part of the solution but they don't appear to be the "one real" solution at all.
Experts are now saying that the Delta variant makes herd immunity impossible.
Reaching herd immunity is “not a possibility” with the current Delta variant, the head of the Oxford Vaccine Group has said.
Giving evidence to MPs on Tuesday, Prof Sir Andrew Pollard said the fact that vaccines did not stop the spread of Covid meant reaching the threshold for overall immunity in the population was “mythical”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical
We currently have nothing that will completely stop transmission. The CDC says the viral load of vaccinated people with breakthrough cases is the same as in unvaccinated people.
Documents shared at the confidential congressional briefing also show that vaccine efficacy has taken a hit from delta. The CDC estimates efficacy may be 75 to 85 percent against the new variant rather than 94 percent effective or more against the original COVID-19 strain.
There are 35,000 symptomatic breakthrough cases each week, the presentation shows.
Up to 15 percent of deaths in May were among vaccinated people, the presentation shows. That contrasts with previous public CDC data showing deaths occur in a tiny number of vaccinated people, just 0.0005 percent. https://www.rollcall.com/2021/07/30/cdc-report-shows-vaccinated-people-can-spread-covid-19/
Even if everyone were vaxxed, covid is not going away. People will still be spreading and dying from covid. It is time to turn a much greater focus toward treatment options and nothing should be off the table especially off label trials of existing drugs which have been proven safe. Before anyone tries to twist my words, I don't recommend at home trials of any "prevention, cure, etc" you've researched on TikTok. Leave the trials to the experts.
My understanding is that herd immunity is possible, but only if we also vaccinate younger kids. And that won't really happen until 2022.
I had thought this as well but more recent information says otherwise.
As it is, COVID-19 may become less of an issue simply by becoming endemic. The Spanish Flu pandemic didn't end because the virus went away; it just softened to the point where it was just an inconvenience for the vast majority of infected people. COVID-19 may end up being reduced to a bad cough... if so, it might just be a question of how soon that happens.
Successful mutations by definition are ones that improves an organisms chance to reproduce, so these COVID mutations seem to me to be very much “usual”.One can hope but this critter seams to be a bit unusual in the sense that mutations aren't becoming weaker. In fact, it appears to be the opposite.
What the CDC actually says is vaccinated individuals spread the disease less and have a viral load present for less time than the unvaccinated:
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.www.cdc.gov
So vaccines reduce spread on top of reducing severity.
I also see no reason why boosters can’t be designed to address delta and other variants.
One can hope but this critter seams to be a bit unusual in the sense that mutations aren't becoming weaker. In fact, it appears to be the opposite.
Of course it is. That's how natural selection works.
There has been this myth floating around that the virus will just naturally attenuate over time and become like the common cold.
This is not supported by any science or plausible theories. It's not supported by the mechanics of how the virus infects and spreads. It's completely ignoring the selection pressures and what favorable mutations have been identified in the lab and what their effect will be.
There is no reason to believe covid will become "nicer" or less infectious over time, and certainly not in the time frames that are relevant to the pandemic.
Longer this thing hangs around, more changes it has to optimize itself, and less possibility it's defeated.
Amongst unvaccinated, it appears to be getting close to matching the most contagious of viruses. Even so, 95% vaccination rates would certainly stop it cold today - but that’s impossible without vaccinations for children.Yeah, I don't get why it would become less severe.
The only obvious evolutionary pressure is for it to become more infectious. A strain that spreads more easily will almost by definition become the dominant one (as first "alpha" and subsequently "delta" did). I don't see any reason why it would become less deadly _unless_ it was starting from a position of being extremely so, to the point where it was killing people before they got to infect anyone else. If it's only modestly deadly, and also has a longish asymptomatic period, then why would there be any pressure on it to become less lethal?
Amongst unvaccinated, it appears to be getting close to matching the most contagious of viruses. Even so, 95% vaccination rates would certainly stop it cold today - but that’s impossible without vaccinations for children.
Agree there is minimal pressure for virus to become more or less deadly. Unfortunately, the current middling level of vaccinations combined with rampant unchecked spread amongst unvaccinated is a perfect breeding ground to evolve new vaccine resistant strains for which there is a significant evolutionary advantage.
Yeah, I don't get why it would become less severe.
The only obvious evolutionary pressure is for it to become more infectious. A strain that spreads more easily will almost by definition become the dominant one (as first "alpha" and subsequently "delta" did). I don't see any reason why it would become less deadly _unless_ it was starting from a position of being extremely so, to the point where it was killing people before they got to infect anyone else. If it's only modestly deadly, and also has a longish asymptomatic period, then why would there be any pressure on it to become less lethal?
Now I think about it, I don't get why viruses don't evolve to have longer asymptomatic periods. The ideal strategy surely would be to stealth-spread - appear to do nothing for a very long time, while speading to others, then rapidly kill (or not kill at all - just continue to not do very much). I can only assume that it's hard for a virus to control what symptoms it causes, as that depends on how the immune system of the host reacts?
I'm not trying to argue against vaccines and boosters. Just pointing out that, even if you could get everyone on board (which will never happen) vaccines are not going to eliminate the spread or risk of dying from covid. I'd like to see a much greater emphasis on treatment and/or alternative forms of prevention.
Another anti masker, antivaxxer who took ivermectin instead dead. He leaves a wife, 3 daughters and a fourth on the way.
His updated gofundme account says he passed today.
A Texas man who protested against face masks will be transferred to hospice after being hospitalized for nearly a month with COVID-19
I'm not trying to argue against vaccines and boosters. Just pointing out that, even if you could get everyone on board (which will never happen) vaccines are not going to eliminate the spread or risk of dying from covid. I'd like to see a much greater emphasis on treatment and/or alternative forms of prevention.