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uclaLabrat

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.
Sure. Lots of people in your situation are dead. End of story. If you get it, and based on omicron you will, you will probably be fine. Or, you can take an extensively tested, safe, and free (or damn near it) to reduce that risk by 10-100 fold.

That's pretty easy math.
 

VashHT

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.
The reasons have been explained again and again, if you don't know by now it's because you're either lying or you're in a media bubble.
 

Andro Boy

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The reasons have been explained again and again, if you don't know by now it's because you're either lying or you're in a media bubble.

Nah, I just don't see the point. Most of my friends and acquaintances feel the same as me. As for a media bubble, I feel like there's a little projection there. Most people stuck in a media feedback loop seem to be the ones still absolutely terrified of Covid and still thinking it's March 2020. Unless you're referring to far right QANON media bubbles, which I don't associate with.
 

Andro Boy

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Sure. Lots of people in your situation are dead. End of story.
Did they have existing comorbidities? Every story I've seen thus far of an unvaccinated individual under 40 dying of Covid has been high on the BMI scale. The only exceptions I've seen are a few bodybuilders in their late 30's and 40's, and judging by their physique, they were likely abusing steroids.
 
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brycejones

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.
Because you really don’t know if it’s going to be no worse than the flu. Also why would want to be sick with the flu for days when a simple shot could prevent that?
 

VashHT

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Nah, I just don't see the point. Most of my friends and acquaintances feel the same as me. As for a media bubble, I feel like there's a little projection there. Most people stuck in a media feedback loop seem to be the ones still absolutely terrified of Covid and still thinking it's March 2020. Unless you're referring to far right QANON media bubbles, which I don't associate with.
How about the fact it reduces chances to spread it to others? That's been one of the main reasons I've seen reported for healthy younger people to get it. Anyways, all of my friends and acquaintances are boosted by now, not sure why it matters if yours don't want to take it.
 
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feralkid

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.


Wow, you must be exhausted from lifting that rock you've been living under.
 

repoman0

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.

I don’t think you should get the vaccine. The longer you and people like you drag this on, the more work from home policies become normalized and the more likely they are to stick around. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying it. Also it’s pretty funny when idiots get Darwin awards due to completely preventable diseases so thanks for being a part of that.
 

MtnMan

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More covidiots among America's elite fighting force


I found these lines particularly cringeworthy:




I'm sure the judge can describe exactly why other required vaccines are totally ok, but this particular one flies afoul of the constitution /S
That would be an easy one to challenge. Part of everyone's medical record is their vaccination record. If they have every been vaccinated for anything... it's pure bullshit*, and they have two options.
Get the jab, or get a less than honorable discharge.

* religion is pure bullshit anyway, but that's a different discussion.
 

kitkat22

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Did they have existing comorbidities? Every story I've seen thus far of an unvaccinated individual under 40 dying of Covid has been high on the BMI scale. The only exceptions I've seen are a few bodybuilders in their late 30's and 40's, and judging by their physique, they were likely abusing steroids.

I've seen plenty of people die without comorbid conditions. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist. I take care of these people personally. Sucks sending a "healthy" patient to the ICU only to die a few days later from a virus.
 

eelw

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.
Why so scared of the vaccine? But obviously you’re too selfish to know this is the responsible thing to do.
 
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MtnMan

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To laugh at this shows how fucking sick this motherfucker is.

@weblooker2021 you are one sick fuck, and I acknowledge that is the sole purpose of your miserable existence. Sympathies to your family, and the trees for the waste of oxygen they produce to keep your miserable ass alive.

I also know you are a fucking coward, and while you spewed your anti-vax bullshit, you got scares and got the jab when the Delta variant came on the scene.

PS - @webtroll2021, no need to reply, you are on ignore.
 
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Heartbreaker

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The reasons have been explained again and again, if you don't know by now it's because you're either lying or you're in a media bubble.

Or he's a sock puppet for Weblooker. He repeating the same completely selfish prick argument.

"It probably won't hurt me, so I'll just get it and spread it to other people that it may kill, and that's OK, because I don't care about other people"
 

Andro Boy

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Or he's a sock puppet for Weblooker. He repeating the same completely selfish prick argument.

"It probably won't hurt me, so I'll just get it and spread it to other people that it may kill, and that's OK, because I don't care about other people"
Not a sock puppet, and it's been stated before that the vaccine doesn't stop the spread and only somewhat reduces symptoms, which defeats the "selfishness" argument, since it's literally a personal choice at that point. Just look at all of the Omicron cases in fully vaccinated people.

Edit: As a side note, how is it selfish to not take the shot if I feel the potential side effects for a younger male (myocarditis, muscle spasms, etc) are not worth it? I have no recourse if something in the shot fucks me up. Isn't it selfish to threaten people's livelihood for making a personal decision involving their health? Where's the concern for obese people or anyone else making unhealthy lifestyle choices using up hospital resources?
 
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Heartbreaker

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Not a sock puppet, and it's been stated before that the vaccine doesn't stop the spread and only somewhat reduces symptoms, which defeats the "selfishness" argument, since it's literally a personal choice at that point. Just look at all of the Omicron cases in fully vaccinated people.

It slows the spread which is critical to keeping hospitals running.

We were essentially getting things under control before Omicron, mainly because of the vaccine. Omicron changed the game since it's mutations reduce vaccine effectiveness, requiring a Booster to regain effectiveness.

But if you haven't had a vaccine by now, you can't use Omicron as an excuse. You didn't get the vaccine because you are just a selfish prick.

This isn't something you do just for yourself, but for your community, but you just coincidentally parroting the other one, don't give a shit about your community... thus selfish prick.
 

Andro Boy

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It slows the spread which is critical to keeping hospitals running.

We were essentially getting things under control before Omicron, mainly because of the vaccine. Omicron changed the game since it's mutations reduce vaccine effectiveness, requiring a Booster to regain effectiveness.

But if you haven't had a vaccine by now, you can't use Omicron as an excuse. You are just a selfish prick because it isn't just about you.
Omicron is also basically the flu at this point, which is basically how all viruses eventually evolve. The mass hysteria over Omicron is so transparent at this point, it makes no sense. There will always be a new variant or excuse to continue mandates and lockdowns. This is clearly not about a virus anymore, and I'm starting to question if it ever was.

Also, the vaccines still only target the original strain of the virus, and are less effective against the Delta and Omicron variants, so getting endless boosters isn't going to end this.
 

compcons

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Omicron is also basically the flu at this point, which is basically how all viruses eventually evolve. The mass hysteria over Omicron is so transparent at this point, it makes no sense. There will always be a new variant or excuse to continue mandates and lockdowns. This is clearly not about a virus anymore, and I'm starting to question if it ever was.

Also, the vaccines still only target the original strain of the virus, and are less effective against the Delta and Omicron variants, so getting endless boosters isn't going to end this.
Glad to see we have another virologist to clarify the science for us. I think we are a whole 2 months into this new variant and our resident genius totally understand that this one is just like the flu. Whew!!! So relieved. This shit will be done by February!!!

Also glad to see that Ando Boy knows that the current booster had no effect on the Delta or Omicron variants. We can stop wasting time with this shot nonsense. I don't know why the experts are not actively participating in this thread. Fucking CDC should be listening to this genius to sort out what to do next.
 

outriding

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.

you are invincible. Now go and play in the road
 

esquared

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sigh..another one
If you read this link apparently the provaxxers were mocking her death and the insane antivaxxers
were saying she died from the vaccine.

Her husband cleared all of this up, because these shameless anti vax mothereffers have no problem just making
up shit.

"In a sad sign of the times, Ernby’s death also led to a public feud between anti-vaxxers and pro-vaxxers in the comments section of her Facebook page, with pro-vaxxers posting memes appearing to mock her death and anti-vaxxers falsely claiming she had died as a result of the COVID-19 jab.

Ernby’s husband, Mattias Ernby, appeared to confirm his wife had not been vaccinated in response to a Facebook user who claimed she had died of blood clots after getting vaccinated.

“She was NOT vaccinated. That was the problem,” Mattias Ernby wrote.

 
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sportage

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Can anyone here explain why someone like me, a 29 year old male with a normal BMI and no comorbidities, needs a vaccine that doesn't even stop transmission for a virus that at it's worst is basically a bad flu for someone with my circumstances? I know it's trendy to point the finger at every unvaccinated individual as an "antivaxxer science denier", but a lot of us just don't see the point. It also doesn't help that the official Covid narrative had changed so much before the first does were even available that I simply don't trust the media and all their self-appointed experts. I'm an "essential" worker who's also never been tested, either, and I'm fine after two years of this.

YES. Gladly I will explain.
First off, life is not always only about YOU.
Second, the media is not confusing people. It is the people refusing to take the pandemic seriously that are confusing people.
Third, the variants. Vaccines lessen the spread of infection and thus the creation of new variants. Sure, maybe the current variants will not affect you personally, but what about the next variant or the variant after THAT?
You wear a seatbelt because of big government, you pay taxes because of big government, you obey stop signs because of big government, so why not wear a mask and take the vaccine for the sake of big government?

Remember what it is to be a patriot.
To do what you can to help your fellow American.
Think of WWII, when people sacrificed for the benefit of all. So be a good patriot and get vaccinated if not for yourself then for grandma or the kiddies or the stranger sitting next to you.
An if you feel that the big government is trying to kill you or poison you or control your brain by pushing the vaccine, well then you are a Q and that I can not help you with.
You see, I'm not a professional shrink.
 
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nOOky

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Omicron is also basically the flu at this point, which is basically how all viruses eventually evolve. The mass hysteria over Omicron is so transparent at this point, it makes no sense. There will always be a new variant or excuse to continue mandates and lockdowns. This is clearly not about a virus anymore, and I'm starting to question if it ever was.

Also, the vaccines still only target the original strain of the virus, and are less effective against the Delta and Omicron variants, so getting endless boosters isn't going to end this.

I find that funny. "Just the flu" lol like 5 years ago before covid if you would have asked people if they wanted to get the flu they would have said "sure, it's not that bad". The flu is bad, it can leave you bedridden and weak, and it kills many, many fine people.
 
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gothuevos

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Omicron is also basically the flu at this point, which is basically how all viruses eventually evolve. The mass hysteria over Omicron is so transparent at this point, it makes no sense. There will always be a new variant or excuse to continue mandates and lockdowns. This is clearly not about a virus anymore, and I'm starting to question if it ever was.

Also, the vaccines still only target the original strain of the virus, and are less effective against the Delta and Omicron variants, so getting endless boosters isn't going to end this.

What part of the US has been in any sort of "lockdown" since spring 2020?

There are endless (ie, yearly) boosters for influenza, and it's quite effective at keeping it from overwhelming our healthcare system.
 
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