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fskimospy

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Isn't it a simple matter, COVID is not those other viruses?
It spreads too easily and replicates too fast within the human body. Total, lasting, immunity is not likely something that could ever be achieved.

Let us know when the Flu or Cold viruses are eradicated. COVID is their big brother, and will forever be with us until medical science advances beyond current limitations.
As I mentioned, it is precisely because COVID is not the flu that it would be more amenable to eradication. COVID (and I believe all coronaviruses) have an RNA checking mechanism somewhat akin to what humans have in our cells to prevent replication mistakes. This drastically reduces the mutation rate for COVID as compared to influenza.

Like Measles, COVID is the flu's big brother in terms of virulence and transmissibility but it is the flu's little brother in its ability to mutate quickly. And Measles is a good example of a disease we have been able to almost entirely eradicate in the developed world.

So... I guess... same question again.
 

eelw

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Once again for the slow kids in the back: cloth masks are not for your protection, they are for protecting other people from you, and they are very effective at that.

You are making the world a worse place for everyone else.
Certain materials, actually it promotes potential spread. Studies show gaiters don’t block water droplets at all. It actually makes them smaller and easier to aerosolize. I still continue to wear my 3 ply cloth mask. Not in an environment where I’m scare of infection. But yeah I’ll use a medical mask when in potential higher risk areas.
 
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Commodus

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An unvaccinated Czech singer died after she purposefully caught COVID-19 to access certain locations. Her partner and son also caught the virus, but they were fully vaccinated and recovered properly. It's more sad than "haw haw" as she wasn't a conspiracy loon — she just had the misguided notion that the vaccine was worse than the disease, and ignored her family's pleas to take care of herself.

 
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dullard

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Gone are the days of masking up and vaxxing to protect others. We know that doesnt work.
1. I never said KN95 or N95 masks are not effective. Dont put words in my mouth.
Who is putting the words in your mouth? They are your own words. If you were only intending to talk about the worst kinds of masks, then please mention that limitation in your posts. You exaggerate and hope that you aren't called out. Over and over again.

N95 masks are effective and have been readily available for everyone since about fall 2020. No, N95 masks aren't perfectly effective, but they are pretty damn close especially if more and more people use them. There is absolutely no valid reason that anyone isn't using N95 masks when in danger of being exposed or of exposing others. N95 masks are soon to be free at grocery stores and pharmacies. https://www.wsj.com/articles/free-n...le-at-pharmacies-white-house-says-11642586403
 
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Heartbreaker

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An unvaccinated Czech singer died after she purposefully caught COVID-19 to access certain locations. Her partner and son also caught the virus, but they were fully vaccinated and recovered properly. It's more sad than "haw haw" as she wasn't a conspiracy loon — she just had the misguided notion that the vaccine was worse than the disease, and ignored her family's pleas to take care of herself.


This again highlights why allowing previous infection as Vaccine exemption, is terrible policy. It actively encourages Antivaxxers to get infected on purpose.

I posted previously in this thread about someone else who died the same way. Becoming infected on purpose to get a vaccine exemption (but they weren't a famous person).
 
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Fenixgoon

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This again highlights why allowing previous infection as Vaccine exemption, is terrible policy. It actively encourages Antivaxxers to get infected on purpose.

I posted previously in this thread about someone else who died the same way. Becoming infected on purpose to get a vaccine exemption (but they weren't a famous person).
It's a short stop away from the "let it run rampant so we all get here immunity" strategy.

hospitals are bad now...the suffering from such a strategy would be even more unfathomable
 
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Who is putting the words in your mouth? They are your own words. If you were only intending to talk about the worst kinds of masks, then please mention that limitation in your posts. You exaggerate and hope that you aren't called out. Over and over again.

N95 masks are effective and have been readily available for everyone since about fall 2020. No, N95 masks aren't perfectly effective, but they are pretty damn close especially if more and more people use them. There is absolutely no valid reason that anyone isn't using N95 masks when in danger of being exposed or of exposing others. N95 masks are soon to be free at grocery stores and pharmacies. https://www.wsj.com/articles/free-n...le-at-pharmacies-white-house-says-11642586403

Wow, so now he's griping that people pointing out his horrible broken arguments are putting words in his mouth? I mean he used to at least play stupid when he'd get called out after he'd post garbage links and make arguments that his own links didn't even support, but seems like he's devolved to just screaming that everyone is being mean and unfair to him for his own idiocy.


I'm dying laughing about the fucking dipshit howling how Carhartt is part of his brand and the $3000 a year he spends buying their shit. He was basically paying a brand to advertise for them. Even better would be with the admission that he considers Carhartt part of his branding that Carhartt gets his videos taken down or takes the money for monetizing their brand for himself. If only...
 
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pmv

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This again highlights why allowing previous infection as Vaccine exemption, is terrible policy. It actively encourages Antivaxxers to get infected on purpose.

I posted previously in this thread about someone else who died the same way. Becoming infected on purpose to get a vaccine exemption (but they weren't a famous person).

Yeah, though recovering from COVID probably does make you as resistant as being vaccinated, what you say is a point that hadn't previously occurred to me. I suppose because I hadn't realised there were people foolish or misguided enough to do that. Danger of perverse incentives.
 

Fenixgoon

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Yeah, though recovering from COVID probably does make you as resistant as being vaccinated, what you say is a point that hadn't previously occurred to me. I suppose because I hadn't realised there were people foolish or misguided enough to do that. Danger of perverse incentives.
Damn I can't find it right now but CNN just ran a story a few hours ago about how CDC analysis indicated vaccination is superior to prior infection (and of course, both are better than nothing at all).
The downside to prior infection being...you have to get infected in the first place.
 

weblooker2021

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Damn I can't find it right now but CNN just ran a story a few hours ago about how CDC analysis indicated vaccination is superior to prior infection (and of course, both are better than nothing at all).
The downside to prior infection being...you have to get infected in the first place.
link
 
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feralkid

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Yeah, though recovering from COVID probably does make you as resistant as being vaccinated, what you say is a point that hadn't previously occurred to me. I suppose because I hadn't realised there were people foolish or misguided enough to do that. Danger of perverse incentives.


You'd think anyone who tried it intentionally would make sure they remember not to die.
 

UNCjigga

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Bookmarked for the next time some Trumpist Qtard accuses the Left of being anti-freedom of speech:

Edit: "A screenshot of the email posted to Twitter by NBC News reporter Marc Caputo shows that Pino may have also accessed potentially confidential worker health information."

Ok--that may be more of a legit reason but odd that it wasn't the reason cited by his agency's spokesman.
 

K1052

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https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ is basically just pages and pages of similar things.

The trajectory is almost always the same:

1) stupid bravado/right wing conspiracy theories - It's not a big deal/I trust my immune system/Let's go Brandon.
2) get the disease but say you're doing fine
3) plead for help
4) die

Only forgot the Gofundme and the "shirt off his/her back" testimonial.
 

dawp

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So you want your company to do what SCOTUS said government can't do?
it's a private business, they can have their employees do it and I have no problem with it, it can affect productivity.

would you be okay with employees getting drunk during lunch?
 

weblooker2021

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it's a private business, they can have their employees do it and I have no problem with it, it can affect productivity.

would you be okay with employees getting drunk during lunch?
I am not arguing that private business can't do it. They absolutely can mandate vaccination, just wondering why you want your employer to do it unless it been their policy for many years. There is plenty of labor shortage, it seems a bit crazy to take chances that you will have even more labor shortage going forward by mandating vaccination.
 

Fenixgoon

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I am not arguing that private business can't do it. They absolutely can mandate vaccination, just wondering why you want your employer to do it unless it been their policy for many years. There is plenty of labor shortage, it seems a bit crazy to take chances that you will have even more labor shortage going forward by mandating vaccination.
There's also plenty of places that have people out sick. We're somewhere around 50 in quarantine I think? That's lost productivity right there. A 15 minute, $50 vaccine would pay for itself very, very quickly.

Everything indicates somewhere around 97% of people will get the jab rather than get fired. And for the 3% that leave? These are good jobs in my area, and plenty of people would be happy to take them.
 

repoman0

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My workplace mandated the vaccines and won’t be backtracking. We had 99%+ compliance anyway and still have far more applicants than job openings. We’re a bunch of physicists and PhD engineers so anti-science anti-public health people like webtard are vanishingly rare.
 
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