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Vegitto

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Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Originally posted by: Vegitto
EDIT: Are you saying I'm condesending or..? I failed comprehensive reading, so I don't quite understand . Also, I don't worship Satan (anymore).

More like I probably failed comprehendible writing ;-) No, that was not aimed at you.

Okay, thanks . Anyway, good luck with this and don't keep people from listening to your 'devil music' .
 

HN

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Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Well she just left for the day. Sent an email out to the whole floor saying that she was persecuted today, and she needs to go spend time with jesus. She walked around in her cube praying and speaking in "tongues". Then she started chanting you are not welcome here, get out, get out, get out. I get called in to my boss's office and he asks me if knew anything about what happened. I said, I knew about what happened, and that it is outright lunacy the way she is acting, and that she needs professional help. He then told me as I was walking out his office, 'Please don't stir her up anymore."
holy ******. i swear in an alternate universe there is a "The Office"-type sitcom called "Coworkers" and this is one of the bits.

So, now I need to plan phase 2 for when she comes back tomorrow. Yes, I probably will get eventually "released" from my contract early, but considering they are outsourcing my job, I do not really care.
I say serve this one cold. Friday the 13th is just a few days away :evil:
Do some quality brainstorming 'til then.
 

Vegitto

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
the kicker, she plays worship music in her cube loud enough that her and the boss can hear it 2 cubes down, but that is OK.
Complain about harrassment. Persistant attempts to press their religious vews on you constitute harrassment. I think that you actually have a case for harrassment and could, if they do nothing, legitimately file a complaint with the Dept. of Labor.

ZV

Do this. Seriously, do this.
 

Vegitto

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Originally posted by: HN
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Well she just left for the day. Sent an email out to the whole floor saying that she was persecuted today, and she needs to go spend time with jesus. She walked around in her cube praying and speaking in "tongues". Then she started chanting you are not welcome here, get out, get out, get out. I get called in to my boss's office and he asks me if knew anything about what happened. I said, I knew about what happened, and that it is outright lunacy the way she is acting, and that she needs professional help. He then told me as I was walking out his office, 'Please don't stir her up anymore."
holy ******. i swear in an alternate universe there is a "The Office"-type sitcom called "Coworkers" and this is one of the bits.

So, now I need to plan phase 2 for when she comes back tomorrow. Yes, I probably will get eventually "released" from my contract early, but considering they are outsourcing my job, I do not really care.
I say serve this one cold. Friday the 13th is just a few days away :evil:
Do some quality brainstorming 'til then.

Go buy a cow heart or something . Worked with the Jehova's witnesses .
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: altonb1The double-standard argument will only kick in IF you complain about HER music and she is also told that she has to stop playing it. If the complaint is made and she is allowed to continue listening, then the double-standard has been established and a complain to HR may be warranted.
Wrong. You are not legally required to make any comments regarding an issue prior to filing a complaint. He is 100% within his legal rights to file the complaint without ever notifying his boss or the offending party. The legitimacy of his complaint, in the eyes of the law, is not affected one bit by whether he made his objection known to his boss first.

ZV <--Works in HR, knows the laws around this.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Well she just left for the day. Sent an email out to the whole floor saying that she was persecuted today, and she needs to go spend time with jesus. She walked around in her cube praying and speaking in "tongues". Then she started chanting you are not welcome here, get out, get out, get out. I get called in to my boss's office and he asks me if knew anything about what happened. I said, I knew about what happened, and that it is outright lunacy the way she is acting, and that she needs professional help. He then told me as I was walking out his office, 'Please don't stir her up anymore."

So, now I need to plan phase 2 for when she comes back tomorrow. Yes, I probably will get eventually "released" from my contract early, but considering they are outsourcing my job, I do not really care.
*sigh*

You had a ready way to pull this whole thing down while looking like the rational one with some well-placed complaints to HR. Now, you've made yourself the bad guy here because you couldn't see the larger picture.

Before your little stunt, you had an open and shut harrassment case against the company and the woman and you could have made her life much more difficult. Instead, you chose the more juvenile response and while you're getting a few laughs from it, you aren't really turning the screws at all. To her, this is just proof that she's "important" in what shee perceives as God's plan. It's going to give her a martyr complex and just make her stronger. You could have had the company's HR and Legal departments on your side if you'd played it right.

ZV
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Well she just left for the day. Sent an email out to the whole floor saying that she was persecuted today, and she needs to go spend time with jesus. She walked around in her cube praying and speaking in "tongues". Then she started chanting you are not welcome here, get out, get out, get out. I get called in to my boss's office and he asks me if knew anything about what happened. I said, I knew about what happened, and that it is outright lunacy the way she is acting, and that she needs professional help. He then told me as I was walking out his office, 'Please don't stir her up anymore."

So, now I need to plan phase 2 for when she comes back tomorrow. Yes, I probably will get eventually "released" from my contract early, but considering they are outsourcing my job, I do not really care.
*sigh*

You had a ready way to pull this whole thing down while looking like the rational one with some well-placed complaints to HR. Now, you've made yourself the bad guy here because you couldn't see the larger picture.

Before your little stunt, you had an open and shut harrassment case against the company and the woman and you could have made her life much more difficult. Instead, you chose the more juvenile response and while you're getting a few laughs from it, you aren't really turning the screws at all. To her, this is just proof that she's "important" in what shee perceives as God's plan. It's going to give her a martyr complex and just make her stronger. You could have had the company's HR and Legal departments on your side if you'd played it right.

ZV
You don't honestly believe that they'd side with him?
 

6StringSamurai

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Well she just left for the day. Sent an email out to the whole floor saying that she was persecuted today, and she needs to go spend time with jesus. She walked around in her cube praying and speaking in "tongues". Then she started chanting you are not welcome here, get out, get out, get out. I get called in to my boss's office and he asks me if knew anything about what happened. I said, I knew about what happened, and that it is outright lunacy the way she is acting, and that she needs professional help. He then told me as I was walking out his office, 'Please don't stir her up anymore."

So, now I need to plan phase 2 for when she comes back tomorrow. Yes, I probably will get eventually "released" from my contract early, but considering they are outsourcing my job, I do not really care.
*sigh*

You had a ready way to pull this whole thing down while looking like the rational one with some well-placed complaints to HR. Now, you've made yourself the bad guy here because you couldn't see the larger picture.

Before your little stunt, you had an open and shut harrassment case against the company and the woman and you could have made her life much more difficult. Instead, you chose the more juvenile response and while you're getting a few laughs from it, you aren't really turning the screws at all. To her, this is just proof that she's "important" in what shee perceives as God's plan. It's going to give her a martyr complex and just make her stronger. You could have had the company's HR and Legal departments on your side if you'd played it right.

ZV


It does not matter, this is a contract job, it ends in 3 weeks, they are outsourcing my job to India. She is a FTE of the bank, I am not, just a contractor, yes I could push and get her reprimanded, and live the last 3 weeks of my life in the proverbial hell lol. Or, I can keep fvcking with her, pushing those buttons, freaking her out etc. Juvenile? Most definately. Fun and worth it? You better bet your dead sacrificed goat head it is.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Well she just left for the day. Sent an email out to the whole floor saying that she was persecuted today, and she needs to go spend time with jesus. She walked around in her cube praying and speaking in "tongues". Then she started chanting you are not welcome here, get out, get out, get out. I get called in to my boss's office and he asks me if knew anything about what happened. I said, I knew about what happened, and that it is outright lunacy the way she is acting, and that she needs professional help. He then told me as I was walking out his office, 'Please don't stir her up anymore."

So, now I need to plan phase 2 for when she comes back tomorrow. Yes, I probably will get eventually "released" from my contract early, but considering they are outsourcing my job, I do not really care.
*sigh*

You had a ready way to pull this whole thing down while looking like the rational one with some well-placed complaints to HR. Now, you've made yourself the bad guy here because you couldn't see the larger picture.

Before your little stunt, you had an open and shut harrassment case against the company and the woman and you could have made her life much more difficult. Instead, you chose the more juvenile response and while you're getting a few laughs from it, you aren't really turning the screws at all. To her, this is just proof that she's "important" in what shee perceives as God's plan. It's going to give her a martyr complex and just make her stronger. You could have had the company's HR and Legal departments on your side if you'd played it right.

ZV
You don't honestly believe that they'd side with him?
Had he not placed the lyrics on her chair? They'd have sided with him in a heartbeat assuming his story is 100% accurate.

His music is played at low volumes.
The song in question is clearly not satanic.

Her music is played loudly enough for people to hear several cubes away (iffy claim)
She left a salvation tract on his desk (100% certain that this would be considered harrassment.)

It's the "salvation tract" that does it. That's a violation and there's not a public company in the US that wouldn't act on it. Legal would freak out on her for that.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
It does not matter, this is a contract job, it ends in 3 weeks, they are outsourcing my job to India. She is a FTE of the bank, I am not, just a contractor, yes I could push and get her reprimanded, and live the last 3 weeks of my life in the proverbial hell lol. Or, I can keep fvcking with her, pushing those buttons, freaking her out etc. Juvenile? Most definately. Fun and worth it? You better bet your dead sacrificed goat head it is.
Doesn't matter. Trust me, long run you'd have done a lot more damage to her by taking the other road.

Your life wouldn't have been hell, they'd have been walking on eggshells around you.

ZV
 

Injury

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Jul 19, 2004
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If everyone else is allowed to listen to their praise music, you should sh!t on everyone and go to HR about it.

They'll put a no music policy before you can make it back to your desk, or side with you and tell you to listen to whatever you want.

If HR won't do anything, grow a pair and turn the music back on.

If the boss doesn't like it, tell him or her that you aren't turning your music off unless EVERYONE does, and then drop the word "discrimination" but not "lawsuit" in a different sentence.
 

Stuxnet

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Wow... this woman sounds like she's begging to be made an example of. Time to commence Jim > Dwight shenannigans.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: DefDC
No pentagrams or demons are needed. Just snack exclusively on Devil Dogs, or other Devil's Food cake, put up a flyer for the New Jersey Devils game, and keep some handy Red Devil lighter fluid nearby. Spill something, and offer to get your Dirt Devil and sweep it up.

LMFAO

Very nice!

You see? That's very much the type of prank Jim would pull on Dwight!
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
It does not matter, this is a contract job, it ends in 3 weeks, they are outsourcing my job to India. She is a FTE of the bank, I am not, just a contractor, yes I could push and get her reprimanded, and live the last 3 weeks of my life in the proverbial hell lol. Or, I can keep fvcking with her, pushing those buttons, freaking her out etc. Juvenile? Most definately. Fun and worth it? You better bet your dead sacrificed goat head it is.
Doesn't matter. Trust me, long run you'd have done a lot more damage to her by taking the other road.

Your life wouldn't have been hell, they'd have been walking on eggshells around you.

ZV

Agreed, and it would have been just as fun to watch her trying to cope and get around the actual rules that hr and legal would enforce.

 

6StringSamurai

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Ridiculous, but so is the fact that you don't have headphones on.

Dude read the thread! lol I stated I was told I could not wear headphones as i was not "approachable" then.

 

JDMnAR1

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Well since you don't seem too concerned about pursuing any action through appropriate channels to get the situation addressed, you might as well break out some Marilyn Manson or King Diamond.
 

6StringSamurai

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Originally posted by: JDMnAR1
Well since you don't seem too concerned about pursuing any action through appropriate channels to get the situation addressed, you might as well break out some Marilyn Manson or King Diamond.


I am not at all, I do not work for the bank directly I am contracted to them via another company and that contract ends on October 31st.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
Originally posted by: acemcmac
headphones


Oh I was using some ultimate ears IEM, MUCH better sound, and I can isolate the people around me that do not know how TO USE THEIR INSIDE VOICE!!!! @#$@# but, get this...I am then told, that the team feels I am not approachable enough, bear in mind that I am one of the top 2 producers on the team, who cares if I am approachable. Oh and I am approchable, anytime someone came in my cube, I took them out and helped them. So now its no headphones, and no "offensive" music. sigh

lol. do you really need the job or the reference? i would just tell your boss that satan told you to quit early and screw the next few weeks. if they're gonna accuse you of being a satanist, why let them down?

No I need the money from the job for the next 3 weeks, and thats the funny part, I am what I would consider agnostic, oh and the kicker, she plays worship music in her cube loud enough that her and the boss can hear it 2 cubes down, but that is OK.


If you want to be factual and make them regret it. File a complaint with HR your last week. By them making you turn down what they thought was something against their religion and are now playing music of theirs. They are I am sure violating corporate policy of no religion.

Some woman tried to give my wife some religious pamphlet. After she told her boss that woman speaks to no one for the most part now and has removed a pile of stuff from her desk. She had a PILE of pamphlets of several types so I guess my wife was not the first to get an earful from her.

So contact HR and tell them your story if you are factual in what you have said.

 

Chaotic42

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Looks like you're contracting at the same company that I work for.

If you wanted to move this to HR, you really could. They appear to have *zero* tolerance for any kind of BS like this.

At least in my division.
 

homestarmy

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Find some Christian Rock, play it louder than normal. Then when they complain, tell them you have turned over a new leaf and you're listening to PETRA (or some other christian music, the harder the better - maybe Creed or something?).

Then when they're away, switch it to what you like, have it setup to quickly switch back to christian music.
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: 6StringSamurai
I am normally a pretty calm guy. I sit in my cube I listen to my music, and I do my job. Well the first part of my rant is as such:

Sitting in my cubice (office + cube) and I am busting out some tickets, when I have that feeling on the back of my neck that someone is watching me. I turn around and behold " The Office Biatch" cometh.
She asks me "What are you listening to?"
So I said, "This, oh its Van Halen"
She responds, " I thought I heard something about the devil"
Me: "Yeah, it's the song "Running with the Devil"
Her: "Gasp, are you trying to invite Satan into your life, you know you can become demon posessed if you listen to this stuff long enough. I am afraid I am going to have to ask you to change the song."

( now bear in mind this music cannot be heard outside of my cube, you have to walk into my cube to hear it, and and stand by me to even hear the words, well at least all the normal people in the office can only hear it when they are in my cube.)

I respond: "No, I am afraid I won't. I do not have the same beliefs as you, and you can not hear it from your cube.
Her: You are filling the airwaves in the office with demonic spirits, that will hinder the work of the Lord.
Me: uh....*blink* looks around to see if I am on camera and this is a joke
Her: I will see that this is stopped.

She F(*& goes to my boss, who shares her beliefs, he then comes over and tells me that my music is affecting the morale of the office and that I need to turn it off.

Cliffs:

Bitch
Moan
@#$@#$

Thankfully, I only have a few more weeks here, oh and yeah this is at one of the top 5 banks in the nation.


only in america.
 

flexy

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
I would tell your boss that you feel like your religious beliefs are being infringed upon and that imposing their religious beliefs on you is affecting your morale, and that you will consider taking this to court.


seriously.
 

JMoore

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Originally posted by: flexy
Originally posted by: SagaLore
I would tell your boss that you feel like your religious beliefs are being infringed upon and that imposing their religious beliefs on you is affecting your morale, and that you will consider taking this to court.


seriously.


and if they fire you, you can then sue the company for firing you because of your religous beliefs lol!
 
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