CPU Cooler for new 800MHz P4s

[Intelligence3]

I am building a new system with a Centerwood board and one of the 800MHz FSB Pentium 4s. I'm finding the selection of CPU coolers somewhat confusing. What CPU cooler do people recommend?

 

[theNEOone]

none. these CPU's can be passively cooled. it dissipates heat into its surroundings.

 

[RandySavage]

I personally didn't like the SLK800u for the canterwood chipset... I ordered a swiftech mcx4000, should be here friday or monday...

 

[Intelligence3]

Okay, maybe I'm not using the right terminology. Isn't this a CPU cooler? It's not passive.

 

[EdipisReks]

that is a heatsink/fan. the term "CPU cooler" could be construed as something like Prometia or other active systems. it's just semantics of course: theNEOone knew exactly what you meant and could have helped out. the fact that he chose to be a prick instead is just indicative of what is wrong with this forum. i chose the mcx4000 for the system in my rig. it should be a great choice for the 800 mHz parts. the zalman that you linked to is also nice, and very quiet. the thermalright heatsinks are also great.

 

[Prong]

If you buy a retail CPU, you might be happy with the stock unit. The 3.0C I got up and running yeasterday idles about 30 C. I used Arctic Silver 3 in lieu of what comes with the HS though.

 

[Wurrmm]

Thermal Take Spark 7. Has a great review here.

 

[Krk3561]

Best cooler available now

 

[vetteguy]

I too am looking for a HSF for my (forthcoming) 3.0GHz P4. I like both the Zalman CNPS7000 and the Swiftech MCX4000-B a lot for their cooling prowess, but I also want the capability to move my system if need be. I won't be moving it that often, but I want to be able to do so without the risk of damaging anything. I would like something decently quiet as well (which is why I was leaning towards the Zalman). Someone mentioned the stock Intel one performs pretty well. Thoughts?

 

[vetteguy]

Echoing my question from before...I'm ordering my processor today. If you had to choose, money being no object, and keeping in mind I may want to move my computer 5-10% of the time (probably less though), would you go with the stock Intel, the Zalman or the Swiftech?

 

[RandySavage]

well, if you're not overclocking, I would go with the stock hs/f... installs easy and does the job...

otherwise, I have been very pleased with my swiftech... have not used a zalman, but i'm sure it's great too...

 

[vetteguy]

Originally posted by: RandySavage
well, if you're not overclocking, I would go with the stock hs/f... installs easy and does the job...

otherwise, I have been very pleased with my swiftech... have not used a zalman, but i'm sure it's great too...

What about noise? How loud is the stock HSF compared to using, say, an 80mm Panaflo?

 

[b4417]

Originally posted by: vetteguy
I too am looking for a HSF for my (forthcoming) 3.0GHz P4. I like both the Zalman CNPS7000 and the Swiftech MCX4000-B a lot for their cooling prowess, but I also want the capability to move my system if need be. I won't be moving it that often, but I want to be able to do so without the risk of damaging anything. I would like something decently quiet as well (which is why I was leaning towards the Zalman). Someone mentioned the stock Intel one performs pretty well. Thoughts?

I did not like the Zalman (personally). Slid around on the processor a little, and I prefer a vise-like grip. I liked the Swiftech MCX4000 a lot, although it does require assembly with the MoBo out of the case, and you have to be quite careful to assure that it is level when you mount it (easy to mount it out-of-level, even though it appears to be fine visually). May be the best bet for a unit that gets moved around some, as it's rock-solid in its mounting once installed. Cools better than any other HSF unit I've personally tried as well. It *can be* noisier than the Zalman, but that all depends on what fan you put on it (I used a 92mm Vantec Stealth with very good results). The stock Intel unit is ok, but it doesn't cool as well as either the Zalman or the Swiftech, and it bends the crap out of the MoBo when you clamp it in place. Would be my (personal) last choice if you have the money to get one of the aftermarket units.

Bill

 

[Ozmodiar]

I will be getting this when I get my 3.0.

Anyone read up on it?

Oz

 

[Nerdwannabe]

Originally posted by: Ozmodiar
I will be getting this when I get my 3.0.

Anyone read up on it?

Oz

My friend has one of those TT crap and it does not perform better than his air cooled SLK-800 with ~35cfm fan.
We called TT to ensure the installation was correct and the temp is still similar to SLK-800.

IMO, big waste of money.

 

[vetteguy]

Originally posted by: Nerdwannabe

Originally posted by: Ozmodiar
I will be getting this when I get my 3.0.

Anyone read up on it?

Oz

My friend has one of those TT crap and it does not perform better than his air cooled SLK-800 with ~35cfm fan.
We called TT to ensure the installation was correct and the temp is still similar to SLK-800.

IMO, big waste of money.

It looks p!mp, but if it's no better than a HSF I agree it would be a big waste of money. Isn't it just a glorified peltier?

 

[Amorphus]

yeah. and it sucks. so don't get it.

 

[Crucial]

I thought it was already known that if it says thermaltake on it it's junk?

 

[Fallen Kell]

The Zalman is the way to go. Either the 7000-Cu or 7000-CuAl will do fine. In actuality the CuAl does a little better in terms of dissipating heat, but the Cu can withstand a much larger heat spike. Its up to you as to which you use, but remember the warnings with the Cu, it exceeds the normal weight limits for Intel HSF's by a LOT (more then double in fact). This means you can NOT move your system around when that heatsink is installed. It also means that you need to be careful when installing it so you do not damage the CPU, but that is a lesser problem. Basically you just need to watch moving the system around when it is installed. To avoid the hassle just get the CuAl. Like I said, it dissipates the heat faster then the pure Cu version (Al has a higher heat dissipation rate then Cu, but Cu has a lower heat resistance rate, thus it conducts heat faster, the combo has been shown to be a better cooler when your system has already reached full load).

 

[Nerdwannabe]

Originally posted by: Fallen Kell


To avoid the hassle just get the CuAl. Like I said, it dissipates the heat faster then the pure Cu version (Al has a higher heat dissipation rate then Cu, but Cu has a lower heat resistance rate, thus it conducts heat faster, the combo has been shown to be a better cooler when your system has already reached full load).

I would have to disagree with this statement though.
Cu should conduct and dispose heat faster than Al.

 

[Wurrmm]

Originally posted by: csaddict
I thought it was already known that if it says thermaltake on it it's junk?

Thermal Take is not junk. I do admit though that the peltier cooler is not worth it, but the other standard ones like the Spark 7 are really nice.

 

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