Cpu cooler req for Intel 4770k?

[MtSeldon]

've been using my Intel 4770k with the stock cooler , temps were a little high but it was without a problem. I set the Ram to XMP ,2133mhz, a few months ago.. Now even very rarely I got crashes.


Now I want to change the cpu cooler and thermalpaste, I'm a bit inexperienced a bit about it.

-It has to be easy to install , fool proof as much as possible.

-since I won't be OC 'in it much I guess I don't need those huge coolers that put some stress on the mainboard.

-Quite as much as possible.


What would be your recommendations?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hyper 212?
Gammax 400?

 

[SlowBox]

I have used Hyper 212 before and it cools very good, however you may want to get different fans for it as the stock ones are just too noisey. Get 2 quiet 120mm fans, One to push air in and one to push it out. Also I would only get the 212 if your going to overclock... just side note. good luck

 

[ClockHound]

Cryorig M9i is cheap, matches 212 performance, but easier to install and quieter than the 212.

It's like the Hyper 212 of 2018 - where the 212 was the Hyper 212 of 2012. ;-)

 

[MtSeldon]

Thank you for the replies , Cryorig M9i makes sense. Good performance and not very heavy , since I won't be OCing much it will be enough.

How about AIO coolers. Best one for my case (600T) seems CORSAIR HYDRO SERIES H100i v2 . Would you prefer that if you are not big on OC? Also is it true these AIO coolers are bad for the VRM and memory temps, since they don't create enough flow around the cpu?

 

[SlowBox]

Thank you for the replies , Cryorig M9i makes sense. Good performance and not very heavy , since I won't be OCing much it will be enough.

How about AIO coolers. Best one for my case (600T) seems CORSAIR HYDRO SERIES H100i v2 . Would you prefer that if you are not big on OC? Also is it true these AIO coolers are bad for the VRM and memory temps, since they don't create enough flow around the cpu?

If your not going to OC or just OC a little, no need to liquid cooling. Just buy a 212 or the Cryorig M9i that clockhound suggested.

 

[MtSeldon]

If your not going to OC or just OC a little, no need to liquid cooling. Just buy a 212 or the Cryorig M9i that clockhound suggested.

I'm not going to do extreme OC but I may experiment a bit.
From price point of view it actually makes sense. 1 cpu cooler + 2 12cm fan fans for case top would cost around 55usd -70 usd . If I buy a better cpu cooler they are more than 50usd alone , they weight like 900gr to more than 1kg .
and it will be 3 fans noise. AIO cooler radiator installs to the top of the case and two fans total. I may buy it around 80-90usd in amazon prime day. If AIO coolers doesn't have important negatives, it makes sense.

Those bigger coolers like Noctua 15s, they weight more than 1kg. It looks like they are going to bend the motherboard by time. Is it something to worry about?

 

[KillerBee]

Glad I saw this thread - I just installed the Hyper 212 Turbo about 2 weeks ago on an i7-7740x - works great.
Just remembered about sending in for the $10 rebate which brings it down to $30

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103241

edit: it may be too late to order now and get the rebate
form says valid only with purchases made between 06/01/2018 and 06/30/2018

edit2: looks like they made a new form and rebate is still valid through today
between 07/02/2018 and 07/08/2018

 

[SlowBox]

I'm not going to do extreme OC but I may experiment a bit.
From price point of view it actually makes sense. 1 cpu cooler + 2 12cm fan fans for case top would cost around 55usd -70 usd . If I buy a better cpu cooler they are more than 50usd alone , they weight like 900gr to more than 1kg .
and it will be 3 fans noise. AIO cooler radiator installs to the top of the case and two fans total. I may buy it around 80-90usd in amazon prime day. If AIO coolers doesn't have important negatives, it makes sense.

Those bigger coolers like Noctua 15s, they weight more than 1kg. It looks like they are going to bend the motherboard by time. Is it something to worry about?

You can still OC to the higest value the CPU will give, only thing is you then have to touch the CPU vcore .. The higher you take it the warmer your Rig will get. You need to find a sweet spot so it doesn't get crazy warm but is also a fantastic overclock and what not. good luck

 

[MtSeldon]

Thank you for the answers. I 'll choose between Cryorig M9i or H5.

Also Noctua is never mentioned, is it overrated?
Noone of the users advised AIO coolers, is there an important downside of them?

 

[ClockHound]

Noctua coolers, even the smaller ones are very good. But, maybe not very good value.

Low cost AIOs weren't suggested, possibly because they're a bad value - higher cost, more noise, suspect reliability for little, if any, performance gains.

If you want a great little cooler that supports overclocking, there's the Scythe Fuma. Under $50 and out performs AIOs at double the cost. See ehume's Fuma review on a 4790k.

The Fuma is overkill for a modest overclock tho.

 

[SlowBox]

Thank you for the answers. I 'll choose between Cryorig M9i or H5.

Also Noctua is never mentioned, is it overrated?
Noone of the users advised AIO coolers, is there an important downside of them?

Or, get the Hyper 212 and possibly change the 120mm fans to quiet ones. good luck

 

[aigomorla]

Also Noctua is never mentioned, is it overrated?
Noone of the users advised AIO coolers, is there an important downside of them?

Noctua makes very good coolers, however they are also very overpriced.
Its basically a 40 dollar cooler with a 20 dollar fan and they charge 60 dollars.

There are cheaper alternatives to look for if your willing to sacrifice either some performance, or some quietness.
This is why most of us don't flat out recommend a Noctua. Its like recommending a Bently to a guy who is looking for a 4 door without him saying his budget, or asking for one.

AIO's are mixed.
They do not last forever like a air heat sink does.
They have 2 parts on them which can break.
The pump motor is not as reliable as a fan motor, and you will get loss of performance by loss of coolant after 2 years of use.
They tend to be louder then an Air sink.

I typically will only recommend an AIO if:
1. You have a tight spot you need to cool, and a standard low profile air cooler just wont cut it.
2. You are constantly moving the PC around where its possible to damage the motherboard if you install a tower sink.

 

[Organik]

Also don't forget the Hyper 212 is tested and proven. Also you can easily change fans on it if you like.

 

[stAbb]

Luckily, there are multiple good options on the market right now.
My recommendations from lowest to highest price:

Gelid Tranquillo Rev. 4
Scythe Fuma
Scythe Ninja 5 / Scythe Mugen 5 PGGH edtion

I use the Mugen 5 personally.
It has the cooling performance of the Scythe Fuma but with a fans that won't spin up to an audible level in my case no matter what I throw at my system.

Don't just take my word for it, google these coolers.
Look at the installation video's as well to get an idea how easy they are to install.

With kind regards,
stAbb

 

[ao_ika_red]

Gammax 400

I'm still using this one. Such a performer for low cost air cooler. It once cooled the power hog 860k with ease.

 

[MtSeldon]

Thanks for all the replies.
cryorig was the one that's best suitable for me. But after checking the videos, I saw it's designed to be installed while the motherboard is out. And removing the motherboard from the case is quite a hassle so I went with my second choice. Cooler Master RR-212TR-16PR-R1 Hyper 212 LED Turbo.
I could install it while the motherboard still installed, considering I'm a newbie it wasn't hard, seems I was overthinking. But in contrast to the reviews, it blocked the first ram row, that was unexpected. In video reviews, fans were quite high from the rams (motherboard Asus Hero Maximus VI, Corsair vengeance rams)

Now the highest I see on Intel stress test is 65 degrees, That's quite good, with the stock cooler the temperature hit 100degress in a few seconds and it was throttling immediately.

Had two bad purchases.
Cooler Master R4-200R-08FC-R1 MF200R RGB ,a 200mm fan as replacements for the Corsair 600T front fan . Now it fits, but a part of it squeezes the drive bay a bit . Also, I tought despite being a 3pin fan my motherboard still could control its speed but Asus software can't control it , there isn't an option in the bios. Some motherboards said to be able to control 3 pin fans, mine isn't one of them.
a 120mm to 140mm adapter, so I can install the silent 140mm Noctua fan at the back. It a part of the case blocks the fan from installing, so another lemon purchase. These are the most annoying parts of DIY computers.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

If no serious over-clocking on an i7-4770K, then anything comparable to the Cryorig or Hyper 212 already mentioned.

If you only want to OC "a little bit," you should be able to twist up the multiplier at the stock voltage until you reach instability. At that point, just tweak the VCORE a little bit until it passes a serious stress test. Those coolers should be able to handle that sort of OC, which is a preliminary step to more extensive clocks.

Any greater investment in a rig of that generation would seem to be money wasted. At the same time, you should get plenty of mileage out of that rig. I still have two Sandy Bridgers running tip-top -- a 2600K and a 2700K. They were previously clocked up to 4.7Ghz, but they do routine duty for other family members, so I set the clocks back to stock. Noctua NH-D14 and an EVGA Superclock (successor model) for coolers, respectively.

 

[MtSeldon]

I wanted to upgrade from 4770k to new Ryzen but the IPC gain wasn't worth it really. With a new graphics card this system will perform nicely maybe like 1-2 more years.Maybe I can still use the new cpu cooler with a new system too.

There is a problem with monitoring the cpu temp. Asus software show a signifanctly lower cpu temperature than HWmonitor. Intel Extreme tuning software shows a similar temperature to hwmonitor. Guess this is the one I should be looking.