CPU overheating/usage problems!

xagent

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Ok, i've had my Athlon tbird 1.4 GHz with the Soyo Dragon motherboard with VIA chipset for nearly a year now with no problems up until a month ago. It was even overclocked by 100 MHz to 1.5 all the time. And i had a good Antec full tower case, lots of airflow, and a good heatsink/fan - the Antec Jet Cool.

i formatted about a month and a half ago due to some unrelated problem (IE and My Computer took a minute to load after clicking on them but rest of the computer ran perfectly fast)

when formatting I got a new hard drive, the IBM Deskstar 80 GB 7200 rpm

well about 2 weeks after my computer just mysteriously froze three times one afternoon and evening. First time i didn't suspect anything, but third time my computer wouldn't reboot as i didn't hear the double set of beeps and nothing showed up. I had a feeling it might be some fail safe thing in the BIOS and my CPu was overheating. I left it off for 15 minutes came back, it booted up but everytime i went to the BIOS to look at the temperature it would go to the temp section and jsut freeze there, esc or any buttons didn't work. my BIOS would just freeze. and the shocking thing was the temperature reading was 75 degrees Celsius! i knew this was too high, so I shut down for 2 hours, came back and downloaded a CPU temp program called Speedfan quickly and it showed my temperature rise from 30 something degrees to 64 degrees in just 5-10 minutes after booting up.

I shut down for the night, and the next day and for the next week it ran fine... 55(idle) - 59(in use) degrees. but that's only with the AC on in the house. With the AC off it ran from 59-61 degrees at IDLE and i never let it get higher cause i just turned the AC on.

i left my comp on overnight and 24/7 as usual for a week until one morning i noticed everything kept going slow every now and then. windows when maximized and minimized would stutter, if i right clicked, it'd take a couple of second for the window to pop up. i couldnt test any games cause i hadn't reinstalled any after formatting. i reboot, go out for the rest of the day and come back to find my computer frozen and the idle temperature at 61 degrees.

even weirder... looking at Speedfan i noticed the CPU usage kept spiking to 100% every 3-5 seconds, then jumping back to 10-30%, then back to 100. and i had NO programs running except speedfan. and for the first minute after rebooting it would run fine but after than minute is when it would start spiking, as if something kept randomly using my CPU every few seconds. i thouht i had a virus. even leaving it off the whole night did nothing.

then mysteriously i reboot to install a virus scan software and notice my comp running at full speed and normal, and CPU temperature staying at 57-58 degrees. i scanned for viruses and found none, and CPu usage no longer spiked. it was weird and I did nothing to cause the spikage to start, or stop.

so it was back to normal,,, 56-59 degrees in usage with the AC on. but whenever the AC was off temperature rose up to 5 degrees, even at idle.

i go on vacation for a week and come back to find the temperature has slowly risen again. This time even with the AC on in the house it runns from 59-60 degrees, even at idle, and with the AC off it went from 61-64 degrees. The only programs i ever have open are AIM, Winamp, Internet explorer, and sometimes mIRC. but i don't even play games. i can't imagine what the temperature would rise to if I were to install my games back up and start playing first person shooters, let alone overclock it again.

sorry for the long post, but ANYONE got a clue why my computer is doing this? The sudden overheating to 75 degrees, the freezing, then going back to normal for weeks, then the CPU usage randomly spiking to 100%, then stopping after a day, and now the temperatures slowly rising. I know for a fact that 61 degrees is too hot for an idle CPU, even one in use. and why is the AC being on and of in my house seeming to make such a difference?

Could it be that i'm using a heatpad instead of thermal compound... but I did have it overclocked and played nonstop games for a year with the heatpad perfectly fine... or do heatpads wear out after time and you gotta replace them? I checked my fan thru the BIOS (when it doesn't freeze) and thru speedfan and it's running fine.
 

jna

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Heatpads are bad. Should you have bumped the heatsink a bit when installing the hard drive, you would have broken the contact.
 

xagent

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no, i didn't bump the heatsink i'm sure of that

as for the heatpad i know they aren't good, but the fact is i had the heatpad with the CPU overclocked and it running cool and normal for nearly a year. then after i formatted i never overclocked my CPU again, and after 2 weeks or so of being at the default clock speed all the weird problems started happening, like it shooting to 75 degrees for no reason, then after that stopped a week later CPU usage spiking to 100, and now the reghular temperature slowly rising.

it's at 61 degrees right now and it's close to idle. i got no programs running except this window and AIM
 

xagent

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but what makes this weird is, it didn't stay at 75 degrees. it just went up there for a day randomly and kept freezing my comp, then next day without my doing anything it wa back to normal. same with the CPU spiking. One night i was using it and it was perfectly fine. i go to sleep and leave it on. come back to find it going slow every few seconds. then the next day it was finbe and i didn;t do anything.
 

jna

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Hmm.. only suggestions I have are to reinstall heatsink with thermal grease (any kind is better than nothing), and make sure the fan is still running at full RPMs.
 

holybaboon

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Aug 11, 2002
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Hey man,
according to the honchos at AMD the maximum temperature that the Thunderbird can stand before it go kaput is 90c.....
i am using the same processor as you and i think 60-70c are okay. FYI i am living in Malaysia, where it is freaking hot, and my processor is running at 66c-69c and at that temperature everything is okay (I am using the ASUS hardware monitor in the BIOS). your problem is pretty mysterious but i think it is your mobo..
 
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