CPU Temp TOO HIGH! P4

imported_goku

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Ok after deciding which processor to choose for my Abit IC7-G system I bought a P4 2.8C and now its running hot! I have a POLO 735 3 in 1 running at full speed and the CPU temp is 67C whats going on? This is the temp NOT underload! Please guide me to fix this high temp. I used Artic Silver and the CPU is at the right voltages/is normally clocked! Please help me!
 

LTC8K6

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ABIT huh? It's probably really 57C, but that's still high for idle.

Was it a retail CPU? If so, did you remove intel's TIM pad from the HS?
 

imported_goku

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The case is OPEN! If I close it, it probably will be worse. Im going to get a better case fan but that shouldnt help too much.
 

imported_goku

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Im not using Intel's stock fan. Yes it was a Retail Processor, if your not referring to the intel standard fan then I dont know what your talking about.
 

LTC8K6

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Well it ain't the TIM then!

Thermal Interface Material. It's the black patch on the bottom of the retail HSF.
 

Blain

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Wow, I just saw 127C for my P4, just before I shut it down!
I was doing some online gaming and noticed that my connection was stalled. I finally exited out and noticed the temp in my toolbar.
My CPU fan had stopped Back up and running... no harm... no foul.

BTW, I was using Speed Fan to monitor my temps. I don't know why my MB didn't shut down when the temps got that high.
 

dp004i

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67 at idle is way too high, I'm getting around 42 idle on Abit IS7-G with P4 2.4C running at 3.2GHz with Zalman 7000Cu at low speed (around 1200RPM).
 

GreatBarracuda

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I see u are using a Zalman 7000Cu. I would like to ask you how you have found it so far? Good cooling? Less noise?
 

Nebor

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As long as your computer is stable, those are just numbers that your motherboard makes it. It pulls them right out of it's southbridge.

Seriously, I've seen my P4 3ghz w/ zalman 7000cu hit 84C before (I forgot to turn the fan up.) It sits, every day all day @ 71C under load from Folding@home. I think it idles around 54C or so. My point is, temperatures don't matter as long as your computer is stable! Run a prime 95 stress test for a few hours, let the temp max out. If it's unstable, it will show errors in prime. My bet is, there's nothing wrong.
 

PsychoGears

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Hiya,

Yeah, I just bought a new CPU/mobo and now have additionally bought a Coolermaster Jet 4 cpu fan for socket 478s, 2 additional cooler master case fans in addition to the fan that my case came with, and applied arctic silver 5 as thermal paste and the damn thing is showing at 58 degrees C still according to the bios temperature gauge. Fans are turned way up etc. I have kinda bad luck with my PCs since my last one spontaneously blew up while I was playing a game, and that was back in 2k2. This is my first main station PC in a long time and I'm skittish about building these things. I was real careful not to breath on anything.

Well, I hope those temps are wrong, because my computer doesn't feel like it's blowing out 58 degrees C (or 138 F) of air when I put my hand inside the box and feel around the air....

-TJ
 

PsychoGears

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Oh also I left my PC on overnight (while I slept) and the CPU registered at 61C when I woke up in the morning. Fun.

-TJ
 

imported_goku

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Yea the processor is a real b!tch. I tried overclocking to 3.3GHZ but barely posted. The sad thing is, when I bumped it up that much it only moved 1*C! Stupid Abit heat detection. Is there any reason why it wont post past 3.3? Or is it simply because I didnt increase the voltage. Crap the prob is, I dont know if I am safely overclocking it because I dont know its temp! ARGH
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Nebor
As long as your computer is stable, those are just numbers that your motherboard makes it. It pulls them right out of it's southbridge.

Seriously, I've seen my P4 3ghz w/ zalman 7000cu hit 84C before (I forgot to turn the fan up.) It sits, every day all day @ 71C under load from Folding@home. I think it idles around 54C or so. My point is, temperatures don't matter as long as your computer is stable! Run a prime 95 stress test for a few hours, let the temp max out. If it's unstable, it will show errors in prime. My bet is, there's nothing wrong.

I agree I don't care what the temps are as long as it's stable. Those probs are full of *it* first off all, secondly the chips are rated to run WELL above you alls quoted temps.
 

Zebo

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+/- 20C!! Thanks for the link.

It's really too bad they did'nt test same boards. I have found two identical boards were different by 10C. Of course this could related to my imperfect TIM between the two samples but after that I simply set shut down in BIOS to 95C and generally ignore thier wild interpretations.
 

jhurst

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I wouldnt be concerned if my temps were in the 50's idle, but idling in the 60's I think there is a problem. I have an Abit IC7 and a 2.8 (OC'ed to 3.6), and my system idles @ 35C and load 53C. Using the Zalman 7000Cu.

Your temps make me wonder if you have your HSF installed correctly. I would do a just reinstall the CPU/HSF, maybe spend $30 on a Zalman, and $5 on some AS5, reinstall everything, and don't worry about temps. The stock Intel HSF is not adequate IMO for heavy CPU use. My load temps would reach 67-68C with the stock HSF. I know the CPU is rated to run up to like 75-80C or w/e b4 it starts doing its clock-throttling business, but I still don't like seeing the temps that high.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: jhurst
I wouldnt be concerned if my temps were in the 50's idle, but idling in the 60's I think there is a problem. I have an Abit IC7 and a 2.8 (OC'ed to 3.6), and my system idles @ 35C and load 53C. Using the Zalman 7000Cu.

Your temps make me wonder if you have your HSF installed correctly. I would do a just reinstall the CPU/HSF, maybe spend $30 on a Zalman, and $5 on some AS5, reinstall everything, and don't worry about temps. The stock Intel HSF is not adequate IMO for heavy CPU use. My load temps would reach 67-68C with the stock HSF. I know the CPU is rated to run up to like 75-80C or w/e b4 it starts doing its clock-throttling business, but I still don't like seeing the temps that high.

You should email Intel immediately. They obviously have no idea what they're doing. :roll:
 

Yanagi

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you could also touch your heatsink to see if its warm to the touch. If it is, then your cpu temps are quite high. if its not. then your mobo is reading the temps wrong.
 

imported_zenwhen

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Check to make sure there is no dust under your Heatsink Fan. I was getting similar temps and had a nasty furball to deal with when I looked under the fan.
 

imported_goku

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Dude I just bought the fan a day ago anyways yea the heatsink isnt hot to the touch, problem is when I put the heat sensing diode underneath the heatsink it runs at full speed. For example 55*C=5500 RPM 22*C=2200RPM. See I first hooked this fan up with it's standard thermal stuff to a P4 1.7 then found out they dont work in this system, so I then bought a 2.8C from frys and some Arctic Silver 5. I took a tissue and wiped off the old stuff. Used the Arctic Silver 5 on the CPU then attached the Heatsink back. Im pretty sure I put enough on at it wasnt too much, for example I spit the stuff out and spread it with the arctic silver 5 nossle. I still have no Idea why its being read in the bios so hot, the heat probe came with the fan and was wondering should I go out and buy a digital reader to hook up to the diode or do you buy another set. The fan is a POLO 735, technically a Volcano 12! ARGH
 

imported_goku

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Have another question, should I put the heat sensing Diode on the heatsink where it touches the CPU or attach the Diode on the heatsink where it "Doesnt" touch the CPU die. Also when putting Arctic Silver 5 on the CPU die, what happens if you fill up the hole on the CPU with the stuff? I also possibly put too much Arctic Silver.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: Blain
Wow, I just saw 127C for my P4, just before I shut it down!
I was doing some online gaming and noticed that my connection was stalled. I finally exited out and noticed the temp in my toolbar.
My CPU fan had stopped Back up and running... no harm... no foul.

BTW, I was using Speed Fan to monitor my temps. I don't know why my MB didn't shut down when the temps got that high.

127C is not possible. The core would probably start to melt down. And witht that type of heat might even crack. Also the TIM might start to boil and evaporate. No something would have been fried dude.

-Kevin
 

Gamingphreek

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It cant... probably just a bad reading or something. The core would meltdown at 260F. If it didn't melt down it would crack. Like i said earlier... i thnk these are bad temp readings because something would have gotten fried.

-Kevin
 
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