CPU Temp TOO HIGH! P4

[Todd33]

My P4 runs about 60-64C during load with a Zalman 7000Cu-Al. It doesn't crahs, so it must not be a problem. I think Intel rates the newer P4 for over 80C.

 

[imported_goku]

Yes but I hear about people running thier CPUs at 30*C. What do you think I should do to achieve temps in that range. Also Where do you go to find heat sensors, it seems the one that came with the pol 735 has turned to sh!t.

 

[xEDIT409]

Whoa, I'm gettin 47 on idle on my Prescott, with the Intel HSF.

 

[imported_goku]

Do prescotts really run that high?

 

[xEDIT409]

Originally posted by: goku2100
Do prescotts really run that high?

Yeah they do. But it seems like they can handle it.
When I play a game, I check my temp, and it's at 60 C, but goes back within a min to 47.

I also went to a LAN party two days ago, and played for hours on end with no problems. And I never even shut down my PC that night.

So overall, yea these Prescotts can get hot, but it seems to me that they can definately handle the heat.

 

[PsychoGears]

An update on my PC

I've been playing DAoC today and I've crashed 3 times today now so I know there's *something* wrong with my system, because I've never crashed in this game before with my previous systems.

Anyway, here's my checklist, lemme know if I missed anything:

300W power supply powering the following:

2 7200 RPM IDE hard drives
2 DVD drives
1 Floppy Drive
1 DFI LanParty 865 mobo
1 Pentium IV 2.8GHz chip
1 stick of corsair ram (512 MB)
1 ATI 9600 XT card
1 Soundblaster Live card
3 case fans (2 back 1 front) set to highest setting
1 cooler master jet 4 fan set to highest setting

all 3 case fans and HSF are spinning as high as I can get them. I put AS5 between the HSF and CPU.

Am I missing something? I'm starting to suspect maybe my power supply is too low to support all this stuff....

-TJ

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Well, I was a "software and database guy" for many years, and I'm relatively new to the Over-Clocking pastime. I've always been cautious after spending money on equipment -- I'm still using a Laser printer that's ten years old. On average, I've squeezed up to nine years out of two or more computers -- beyond the point where you'd just throw them away out of obsolescence (but they make decent file servers and proxy servers . . . . so . . . ).

I'm trying to focus on keeping the temperatures way down without having to try water-cooling or spend $650 on a Vapo-Chill kit. It seems to me that 57C is way to high for an idle temperature.

I checked the site comparing ABIT and ASUS temperature readings. Just with my ASUS P4P800, I have a BIOS CPU-temp reading of maybe 83F versus the ASUS Probe reading of 77F, and a thermal sensor reading of 89F. But it would seem -- if the heatpipe-heatsink is doing its job, one would expect a higher reading off the copper heatsink. In any case, I never have IDLE temperatures above the high 30s in Centigrade -- certainly never above 40C.

Who knows for sure? I'm asking -- the question is not just rhetorical . . .

 

[iwearnosox]

I have the same motherboard with a stock clocked 2.4c with no fan on it running at 45c idle so something is definately wrong with your setup.

(giant heat sink on mine.)

Edit: Where did you get the 2.4c- maybe it's a rebadged processor?

 

[Nebor]

Again, it's just an Abit calculation error. Don't worry about the temps as long as your PC is stable. You will NEVER (without refrigeration) achieve the temperatures people with other boards quote (35c.) Their boards read differently than yours.

 

[imported_alex007]

:| It gets me mad. I have a INTEL P4 Presscott precessot with a 1mb of L2 cache. WIth the intel retail cpu fan i got like 46c. I though that was pretty high so i go and buy a very high praised Zalman CNPS7000-CU. You would think that my temp would drop, noooooo, my bios (in my MSI Neo2 PFISR) says my temp is 50c!!. WTF. My case temp is averages 38c. I dont get it. I alredy upgraded my bios to see if there was a problem, but their isnt, still shows the same temp!!! According to my bios i was better off with the intel retail cpu fan. I did everything it said in the instructions , expect i dididnt clean off the thermal grease from when i had the Intel fan. But i aded the thermal grease taht came eith the zalman fan.

PLZ someone, is my temp readign wrong or whats goign on

 

[GrandSpleen]

Originally posted by: alex007
I did everything it said in the instructions , expect i dididnt clean off the thermal grease from when i had the Intel fan. But i aded the thermal grease taht came eith the zalman fan.

Believe it or not, that could be your problem. You want to apply a rather thin layer of paste -- just enough to cover the area. The initial contact between the heatsink and the proc is the most important, as the purpose of the heat-conducting thermal grease is to fill in the microscopic valleys that exist on the surface of the heatsink. Without that, those pockets would be filled with air, which doesn't conduct the heat as well. If you have a thicker layer of grease, you're not reducing the amount of air that will be conducting heat, but rather increasing the amount of distance between the processor and the heatsink (more layers of paste = more distance), and therefore decreasing contact between the two, effectively lowering the heatsink's capabilities.

That, I imagine could cause your 4° increase.

EDIT: Oops, forgive me for ressurecting this thread. I found it in a search and didn't even look at the date until after I'd posted.
-GS

 

[rickyman]

Originally posted by: GrandSpleen

Originally posted by: alex007
I did everything it said in the instructions , expect i dididnt clean off the thermal grease from when i had the Intel fan. But i aded the thermal grease taht came eith the zalman fan.

Believe it or not, that could be your problem. You want to apply a rather thin layer of paste -- just enough to cover the area. The initial contact between the heatsink and the proc is the most important, as the purpose of the heat-conducting thermal grease is to fill in the microscopic valleys that exist on the surface of the heatsink. Without that, those pockets would be filled with air, which doesn't conduct the heat as well. If you have a thicker layer of grease, you're not reducing the amount of air that will be conducting heat, but rather increasing the amount of distance between the processor and the heatsink (more layers of paste = more distance), and therefore decreasing contact between the two, effectively lowering the heatsink's capabilities.

That, I imagine could cause your 4° increase.

EDIT: Oops, forgive me for ressurecting this thread. I found it in a search and didn't even look at the date until after I'd posted.
-GS

i have abit ic7, p4 2.8c

p4 2.8c : average temp is 39c , system average temp is 27c

i am using mbm5 for monitoring.

i am using zalman 7000b/alcu for cooling cpu.

 

[V00D00]

Originally posted by: alex007
:| It gets me mad. I have a INTEL P4 Presscott precessot with a 1mb of L2 cache. WIth the intel retail cpu fan i got like 46c. I though that was pretty high so i go and buy a very high praised Zalman CNPS7000-CU. You would think that my temp would drop, noooooo, my bios (in my MSI Neo2 PFISR) says my temp is 50c!!. WTF. My case temp is averages 38c. I dont get it. I alredy upgraded my bios to see if there was a problem, but their isnt, still shows the same temp!!! According to my bios i was better off with the intel retail cpu fan. I did everything it said in the instructions , expect i dididnt clean off the thermal grease from when i had the Intel fan. But i aded the thermal grease taht came eith the zalman fan.

PLZ someone, is my temp readign wrong or whats goign on

Zalman products are geared towards low noise, not low temps.

The Zalman 7000 Cu isn't for prescotts. The 7700 is for prescotts. Maybe that's your problem... or maybe that's just a typographical error.

I have a 7700 Cu, and it's never done me wrong. I have no idea what my temps are though.

 

[Duvie]

Why the hell would you dig this up after 8 months????

 

[HannibalTheCannibal]

LOL Your going to get "A" better case fan? Try to get 5 better case fans and see what happens. 3 intake 2 exhaust.

 

[LTC8K6]

expect i dididnt clean off the thermal grease from when i had the Intel fan. But i aded the thermal grease taht came eith the zalman fan.

That's certainly one of your problems.

 

[Leper Messiah]

what about, say a CACCK 0334 running at 71C? A64 of course. Don't want to run them that high.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: jhurst<BR>I wouldnt be concerned if my temps were in the 50's idle, but idling in the 60's I think there is a problem. I have an Abit IC7 and a 2.8 (OC'ed to 3.6), and my system idles @ 35C and load 53C. Using the Zalman 7000Cu. <BR><BR>Your temps make me wonder if you have your HSF installed correctly. I would do a just reinstall the CPU/HSF, maybe spend $30 on a Zalman, and $5 on some AS5, reinstall everything, and don't worry about temps. The stock Intel HSF is not adequate IMO for heavy CPU use. My load temps would reach 67-68C with the stock HSF. I know the CPU is rated to run up to like 75-80C or w/e b4 it starts doing its clock-throttling business, but I still don't like seeing the temps that high.

<BR><BR>You should email Intel immediately. They obviously have no idea what they're doing. :roll:

They're not, if at stock speeds, their CPUs start to thermal-throttle, and run at lower than their rated speeds. I think that was the implied caveat there, try adding "... if you want to keep the operating temps during heavy use below those temps that are known to cause throttling." to his statement, see if it makes more sense then. However, if the heatsink is getting very warm, and CPU temps are still too high, then obviously one does need better cooling of the heatsink too. I had that problem with the stock AMD HSF included with my XP1800+. It's an all-Al model, with a wimpy 2500 RPM fan. I replace the fan with a 5200 RPM one off of my old GlobalWin VOS32, and now it stays nice and cool.