cpu upgrade from thuban ?

[1stezekiel]

Opinions about a switch from my thuban 1035t, to an fx 6300. More then likely, im going to xfire my r9 720... thanks.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Is you current mobo AM3+ compatible? (Perhaps with a BIOS flash?)

 

[podspi]

I personally wouldn't, I'd jump to an 8-series (if you have a mobo that is AM3+).

It's hard to recommend AM3+ right now otherwise, since it is:

1) Very clearly abandoned
2) Very clearly outdated.

What games are you afraid of being bottlenecked in? Thuban is still a decent gaming-cpu, especially w/ OC.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm not sure moving from a Thuban @ 3.4 to an FX6300 is worth it. Maybe if you can get the clock speed out of the FX it would be, but I'd probably go bigger or hold off for now, personally.

 

[1stezekiel]

Yeah its is v4.0 gigabyte 990fx ... am3+/fx. I like the crysis games, just picked up titanfall. Prly pick up bf4 as well.

 

[TeknoBug]

I went from a X6 1090T (OC'd to 3.8GHz 24/7, 4GHz on occasional periods) to a 4350 (briefly 8320 before that but donated that to a friend's son), it's roughly the same in gaming performance (X6 does a better job on stuff like 7zip or Movie maker video conversion, etc). The 4350 has a higher stock clock (4.2 and OC's to 4.6 even on 4+1 phase boards) and most games don't make use of more than 4 cores yet. And you'll probably be upgrading to an 8 core in the future with a new socket anyways.

You'd be going from a X6 with 6 true cores to FX with 3 cores and 3 fake module cores.

PS- IMO don't waste your money on BF4.

 

[1stezekiel]

Great info... thanks guys.

 

[Headfoot]

Yeah I'd say don't bother if its only to the 6300 but it would be worth it imo to go to the 8320 especially if you play Crysis 3 and BF4 (2 of the very small handful of games that use more than 4 threads). Although you can turn on Mantle in BF4 and relieve your CPU for 0 dollars spent. That won't necessarily apply to future games depending on how things play out

 

[Fox5]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=147

For comparison, you get a decent single threaded boost, but it's pretty much a wash on multithreaded.

If you want a semi-gaming related single threaded/cache dependent benchmark, check out this one from a gamecube emulator.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AunYlOAfGABxdFQ0UzJyTFAxbzZhYWtGcGwySlRFa1E#gid=0

The FX cpus can be up to a quarter faster (mostly from clock speed gains), but your money could be better spent on a haswell cpu and motherboard if you're already on ddr3. If you're on DDR2, I'm not sure the fx series even supports that.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Dump the ancient platform and move on instead of doing these minor update attempts that ends out expensive. And in your case upgrade to an i5.

 

[AtenRa]

He already has a 990FX V4.0 Gigabyte motherboard, recommending him to spend more for Intel motherboard + CPU is not the brightest thing.

My advice will be to upgrade to FX8320 and OC to 4GHz with the default cooler. That way you will get both higher single and MT performance than your current CPU.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Dump the ancient platform and move on instead of doing these minor update attempts that ends out expensive. And in your case upgrade to an i5.

I think your disdain for AMD is clouding your judgement. His motherboard has plenty of current features. AMD hasn't updated the FX chipset in a while, but motherboard makers have added features themselves. An eight core FX still has a long useful life ahead of it.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I think your disdain for AMD is clouding your judgement. His motherboard has plenty of current features. AMD hasn't updated the FX chipset in a while, but motherboard makers have added features themselves. An eight core FX still has a long useful life ahead of it.

I think you forget how slow the FX CPUs are. And doing upgrades with minimal effect for a moderate/high cost just to reuse a motherboard doesnt make sense. Specially when talking about the FX8xxx series.

 

[AtenRa]

I think you forget how slow the FX CPUs are.

Latest game using an archaic Unreal Engine 3, FX8350 doing just fine.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2370857&page=4

 

[daveybrat]

If you decide to upgrade, i'd recommend getting this:

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8320FRHK...ywords=fx+8320

AMD FD8320FRHKBOX FX-8320 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition

You can't really go wrong with $139.99 for an FX 8-Core cpu. Certainly a lot cheaper than buying an i5 AND a new motherboard.

I'd do it if my board was AM3+, but since it isn't, my next upgrade will be an Intel someday.

 

[SPBHM]

If you decide to upgrade, i'd recommend getting this:

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8320FRHK...ywords=fx+8320

AMD FD8320FRHKBOX FX-8320 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition

You can't really go wrong with $139.99 for an FX 8-Core cpu. Certainly a lot cheaper than buying an i5 AND a new motherboard.

I'd do it if my board was AM3+, but since it isn't, my next upgrade will be an Intel someday.

agreed, you already have the motherboard, so this 8320 for that kind of money + OC will be a solid upgrade over 3.4GHz PII.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I think you forget how slow the FX CPUs are. And doing upgrades with minimal effect for a moderate/high cost just to reuse a motherboard doesnt make sense. Specially when talking about the FX8xxx series.

So we can agree his motherboard has plenty of current features?

The FX aren't slow. I've logged hundreds of hours worth of use on i5's and FX CPU's. I'd have no trouble recommending one based on performance/price, the only real problem I see is the upgrade path which makes it hard to recommend when building a completely new system (though an FX eight core still has many useful years ahead of it).

 

[guskline]

He already has a 990FX V4.0 Gigabyte motherboard, recommending him to spend more for Intel motherboard + CPU is not the brightest thing.

My advice will be to upgrade to FX8320 and OC to 4GHz with the default cooler. That way you will get both higher single and MT performance than your current CPU.

I agree. I built my son-in-law a 8320 rig (Asus Sabertooth 990FXrev2 mb) with a ssd and a GTX650TI and it's a solid rig. I have a AIO cooler for the CPU and have it OC'd to 4.0 so it's a clone of the 8350.

 

[sm625]

Dont expect to get more than 4.4GHz from the FX. And you need at least 4GHz just to match the 3.4GHz overclock on the old 1035T. In terms of added performance per dollar, upgrading thuban to piledriver is a terrible value. You get literally less than 0.1% performance increases per dollar. Seriously. It's like upgrading an i5-2300 to an i5-2400, except its not as fast as either of those.

 

[AtenRa]

Dont expect to get more than 4.4GHz from the FX.

Why is that ??

 

[sm625]

Because that is about the same "level" of overclock he had on his 1035T. If he can hit 4.6 on the FX, then it probably means he could also hit 3.5 or 3.6 on the thuban.

 

[TeknoBug]

If you're on DDR2, I'm not sure the fx series even supports that.

He said 990FX, I doubt there's any 990FX boards with DDR2... is there?

He already has a 990FX V4.0 Gigabyte motherboard, recommending him to spend more for Intel motherboard + CPU is not the brightest thing.

My advice will be to upgrade to FX8320 and OC to 4GHz with the default cooler. That way you will get both higher single and MT performance than your current CPU.

I said in another post that I went from a 1090T to an 8320 (OC'd it to 4GHz as well) and barely noticed a difference from the 1090T, though the OP is using a 1035T it's slightly slower than the 1090T, still the jump is going to be fairly marginal since Thuban's instruction per cycle speed is slightly higher or almost equal to Piledriver's.

 

[pyjujiop]

Switching to a six-core FX would be little more than a sidegrade, but going to an 8320 or 8350 will give you a big performance boost.

I had a 1035T for a long time and ran it at 3.6, then upgraded to an 8350 on the same board. At stock, the 8350 was just ahead of the overclocked Thuban, except in multi-core aware applications, where it won easily. But when I overclocked the 8350, it was clearly an improvement. It reached 4.5 GHz at stock voltage and is stable at 4.85 with 1.48v. Even at 4.5, it's clearly faster than the 1035T at 3.6 was, by at least 20 percent and often more than that.

Your motherboard will handle the 83x0 with no problem. I've been running on the 970 version of that board, the 970A-UD3, for well over a year with no issues.

I won't recommend the AMD 9-series chipset platform and FX to anyone buying from scratch, because it's a dead end and there are better ways to spend your money. But if you're already invested in AM3+, then the 83x0 processors still make very good sense as upgrades.

 

[AtenRa]

I said in another post that I went from a 1090T to an 8320 (OC'd it to 4GHz as well) and barely noticed a difference from the 1090T, though the OP is using a 1035T it's slightly slower than the 1090T, still the jump is going to be fairly marginal since Thuban's instruction per cycle speed is slightly higher or almost equal to Piledriver's.

For a single card that may be true in a lot of games, but the OP said he will like to CrossFire his R7 270. So i believe the FX8320 at 4GHz will give him a nice boost over the Thuban.
If he wants to go with the FX6300 he will need to OC to 4.6GHz+ in order to get a substantial performance boost over his 1035T at 3.4GHz. He can do that by using a better cooler.

 

[Vesku]

Personally I'd just hold out for now and keep an eye out for a good deal on a 3770K/4770K or whatever the broadwell 4+HT will be. Possibly wait as long as the winter holiday sales. Just don't think it's worth it to go from a Thuban to a FX. At least that's my suggestion as someone who had a 1090T as their main system until recently.