Crack House or Mansion

Tiamat

Lifer
Nov 25, 2003
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wow 2M$ for those POS. I thought it was bad in Boston,MA and NoVA/DC from my experience. DAMN.
 

mmntech

Lifer
Sep 20, 2007
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The housing market never crashed up there?

Nope. It's been red hot in Canada despite the recession. Vancouver is really bad. Most younger residents there can't afford to buy a house without at minimum a 40 year mortgage. Puts you in debt for life. Things are a little better here but not much. Average price for a house in Toronto is $500,000. You could get a palace in the US for that.
 

ShawnD1

Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Are Vancouver homes just really expensive? Those "mansions" look like shacks...
In Canada, anything with windows is a mansion. Sometimes they even come with natural gas!

I'm a little confused how the housing prices can be that way. Basically that means nobody ever really owns their house. You can have a 40 year mortgage that never gets paid off or you can sell it to someone else who takes on the debt that they too will never pay off. It's basically like renting the house but you get some of the money back when you move; it never becomes your house.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Nope. It's been red hot in Canada despite the recession. Vancouver is really bad. Most younger residents there can't afford to buy a house without at minimum a 40 year mortgage. Puts you in debt for life. Things are a little better here but not much. Average price for a house in Toronto is $500,000. You could get a palace in the US for that.

It really depends on where in the US. Real Estate is so highly overpriced in so many places.
 

rockyct

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Jun 23, 2001
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Nope. It's been red hot in Canada despite the recession. Vancouver is really bad. Most younger residents there can't afford to buy a house without at minimum a 40 year mortgage. Puts you in debt for life. Things are a little better here but not much. Average price for a house in Toronto is $500,000. You could get a palace in the US for that.
Here in San Diego, the housing prices were getting pretty insane but a million would buy a pretty nice house. Not quite a McMansion, but a nice house. I think the average house sold in San Diego was over 400k for a while. The housing crash really knocked down prices as most of these people couldn't afford a mortgage payment that actually paid down the principle. I don't see how people working in Vancouver can really afford a million dollar house. I'm sure with most of those homes pictured, the real value is in the lot so the house is probably going to be torn down.

I went to Vancouver during the Olympics and it really is a wonderful city so I see why it's so popular. My relatives live in Port Moody in beautiful houses they've had for decades. I can only guess how much they'd go for.
 

mmntech

Lifer
Sep 20, 2007
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It really depends on where in the US. Real Estate is so highly overpriced in so many places.

Still, it always impresses me watching those real-estate shows from the US. You get people complaining that a house is over their budget at $250,000, and the place is massive. Prices tend to vary in the Toronto area but you can't get a decent house for under that. You're lucky if you can get a small townhouse for $200,000.

A lot of the properties up here are over valued. New builds in my area tend to be huge homes on tiny lots, going for $400,000+. Maybe about 2000sq ft. Take this beauty which is on a lot half the size of my parents place.
http://www.homefinder.ca/listing/details/W1838051/941-hepburn-rd-milton-ontario

Problem is the building is pretty much worthless. It's the land that appreciates in value the most. So from an investment approach, it makes little sense to fork out that much.
My parent's house has been appraised at $350,000 FWIW. Same amenities as the house above. All upgraded in the last 5 years. Used to be a premium area before they built a mall that blocks our view of the Niagara Escarpment.
 

esun

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Nov 12, 2001
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Still, it always impresses me watching those real-estate shows from the US. You get people complaining that a house is over their budget at $250,000, and the place is massive. Prices tend to vary in the Toronto area but you can't get a decent house for under that. You're lucky if you can get a small townhouse for $200,000.

"The US" is a big place. Really big. $200,000 in, say, West Los Angeles will get you absolutely nothing (maybe a really crappy foreclosure). $200,000 in Montana will probably buy you a couple acres and a nice house. $200,000 in Manhattan will buy you a cardboard box.
 

Connoisseur

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Sep 14, 2002
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"The US" is a big place. Really big. $200,000 in, say, West Los Angeles will get you absolutely nothing (maybe a really crappy foreclosure). $200,000 in Montana will probably buy you a couple acres and a nice house. $200,000 in Manhattan will buy you a cardboard box.

Hey... that's not fair... that's a disservice to the box. $200k would probably not even get you that much since you're technically required to park the box somewhere to consider it home. The land on which the box is parked is valued at more than that.
 

Pegun

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Jan 18, 2004
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I was hoping this would be in relation to Detroit. I was just there last weekend so I think I may recognize some of the buildings.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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hah. My house, which has less than $40k left on the loan, is twice as big as most of those "mansions". It'll be paid off in ~7 years.

People shouldn't put up with that shit. I don't care how nice the neighborhood is, it isn't worth being in debt for life and never owning shit.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Nope. It's been red hot in Canada despite the recession. Vancouver is really bad. Most younger residents there can't afford to buy a house without at minimum a 40 year mortgage. Puts you in debt for life. Things are a little better here but not much. Average price for a house in Toronto is $500,000. You could get a palace in the US for that.

Depends where in the US, same in Canada. $500k will only get you a condo in my city. And $500k will also buy you a palace in certain parts of Canada.

Love Vancouver. May be a future hometown.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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Yeah it's real. I was wondering when this would get posted on here.

The city of Vancouver itself is fairly small in area, and yeah it's expensive. Most people are paying for the land, and will destroy those little pieces of crap to put up a nice house. There's a lot of foreign money coming in which has kept the prices up, and the Olympics have created more of an international market for real estate here.

The thing is, a lot of those houses are owned free and clear for 2 reasons: 1. Foreigners with tons of cash buy them outright. 2. They were actually bought for $40k way back in 1952.

It is proving to be an interesting city development problem. Now only super rich people can afford places in Vancouver, yet teachers (like my wife) and policemen still have to work here, and the emphasis is on public transit and sustainable living. It's hard for a teacher to feel as part of the community if she has a 1 hour commute, so now a lot of the city planning is going into approving development projects consisting of a few towers and townhouses, where the townhouses are really expensive, the lower parts of the towers are cheaper units with laminate counters, basic appliances, and carpet, and the higher units are the teak floor/granite counters/subzero freezer units, which allows doctors, lawyers, and investment bankers to live with the teachers, cops, and plumbers that work in their neighbourhoods.

People here are starting to realize that a bunch of condos/townhouses with no yard are perfectly fine to raise a family in, so long as there is a generous helping of park space nearby and a local train station, or the ability to walk to work.
 

zanejohnson

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Nov 29, 2002
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those houses i listed arent in some bad location either... there on a private country club, about an hour north of Dallas.... i guess the town that country club is in is a little grimey, but DFW is literally right down the freeway.. and it's all suburban from here to there...
 

iGas

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Feb 7, 2009
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Ha

Is it really that bad there?
They are exaggerated it, unless the houses are on water front.

The price of Vancouver/Victoria is very high compares to the rest of the country.

One of the property here (in the average part of town) my family friend is considering buying and it is price at a cool $1 million dollars. The house is 98 year old at 1700 sqf, and is a dozer bait borderline on a .69 acre lot. And, it make this house look like a mansion.
 
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