Crack the code - FREE Ferrari!!! Maybe VERY hot if you can crack it :-)

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khstudios

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actually...u can download the option program thru here
i encrypted a text file containing the letter 'a' and this is the output...
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khstudios

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Jan 24, 2001
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OMG!!!!!!!!
I just figured out the password!!!
I can decode it now...BUT i still need the right filename (i think)
 
Feb 22, 2001
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<< << Utilizing a combination of Virtual Matrices and a 1,048,576 bit symmetric key, VME is impervious to brute force attacks. >>
No, not correct....just takes longer than other encryption keys..... hate statements like this
>>



There's a limit above which you can really say "impervious" without fear of contradiction. Look, let's say you've got a sooper-dooper computer cluster, watercooled and everything, that's so amazingly powerful it could crack a 1,024 bit key in one microsecond (a feat which I doubt all the computers in existence today simultaneously working together could achieve.) That same computer cluster could crack a 1,048,576 bit key in about 10^295 years... more or less a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years.

It's virtually impossible to describe just how long 10^295 years is, because you can divide it by enormously large numbers and still be left with an indescribably long amount of time. Our universe is about 10^10 years old, which means that 10^295 years is 10^285 times longer. Our universe contains about 10^80 atoms. If every single atom in the universe were a computer cluster a billion times more powerful than the one described above, and if every one of those atomic computer clusters had been running the entire life of the universe, they would by now have chugged through less than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
000000000000000000000000000000000001% (194 decimal places, give or take) of the possible keys. Still incomprehensible. If every single one of those atoms were actually a tiny 10^80 atom universe, and if every one of those universes consisted of nothing but computers a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion times more powerful than the one described above, and if they ran over the lifetime of a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion universes, they would plow through about 1/100,000,000,000th of the possible keys.

If the keys were randomly distributed, that incomprehensibly large number of computers running over that incomprehensibly large time would have about as much chance of finding the key as you've got of having red come up 37 times in a row on a roulette wheel. Feeling lucky?

If they're really using a 1,048,576-bit key, I think they're safe to say they're impervious to brute-force attack.

Disclaimer: My math might be a bit off here... but only by a few billion billion billion years, give or take
 

Okimoto

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The easiest.. by far the easiest way to crack this encryption relies on an 'old school' method. We have the addresses of the company. A little social engineering will determine where the research and development department rests. Take a group of anand-techers... and mob the place during the day time! The first one to get to the intellectual information first wins! I can imagine about 8000 of us just showing up with our laptops... plugging ourselves into every single ethernet jack, accessing every workstation.. until we find what we're looking for!

Or like mission impossible... da da da dum dum... da da da dum dum...
your mission if you choose to accept it...
 

ken2001

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I bet no Ferrari at all. How could you guys for sure they will give you the car if, only if you break the code?
 

ChefJoe

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screw the car, if you crack it start reverse engineering the stuff you have, add a few more bits to the key, then do a press release saying "the unbreakable code is not unbreakable, but my new one is!!! it has 100 more bits making it 100*unbreakable. Investors are welcome."
Hire the CS dude and a math/crypto specialist and you'll be rolling in corporate dough (at least enough to start a lease on the ferrari)
 

Bonerrrrrrr

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Jul 24, 2001
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It was easy

8675309.......just like the song

Oh yeah, I guess only old people remember that.........these youngsters will never figure it out
 
Feb 22, 2001
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Oops.

As it turns out, I did make a mistake in my math (that's what I get for trying to calculate at 12:30 AM). And not a little mistake, either... a very big one. I was way too optimistic. The amount of time it would actually take to brute-force a 1,048,576 bit key is much, much longer than I stated.

How much longer? Well, take that incredibly vast amount of time I described, and double it. Then double it again. And again. And again. After you've doubled it a million times, you're still at a number that's an insignificant speck compared to the correct answer. Double it another 40,000 times or so and you're close.

Hamburglar, here's how you figure something like this out:

A brute-force attack takes time proportional to the total number of possible keys. Adding one bit to the key length doubles the keyspace, just like adding one bit to a binary number doubles its highest value (or adding one digit to a decimal number multiplies its highest value by 10.) So a 1,025 bit key will take twice as long to crack by brute force as a 1,024 bit key, and a 1,026 bit key will take four times as long, and an N-bit key (N>1024) will take 2^(N-1024) times as long.

This means a 2,048 bit key will take 2^1024 times longer than a 1,024 bit key... and the huge amount of time I gave in my last post was actually how long it would take to brute-force a 2,048-bit key. 2^1024 = approximately 10^309. Here's where fun with exponents comes in. If you divide X^M by X^N, you get X^(M-N), which means that if M is large, you can divide your number by some pretty darned impressively big amounts without making much of a dent. So, for example... your 2^2048 bit key will take 10^309 times longer than a 2^1024 bit key. How long does a 2^1024 bit key take? Let's say one microsecond. There are 10^6 microseconds in one second, so that means your 2^2048 bit key will take 10^309 / 10^6 = 10^(309-6) = 10^303 seconds to crack. There about 3x10^8 seconds in a year... divide and see that our 2048-bit key takes between 10^294 and 10^295 years. The age of the universe is 10^10 years, divide and our key will take 10^285 times the universe's age. Now, 10^309 is immensely larger than 10^285 (by a factor of the age of the universe in microseconds) but 10^285 is still way, way, way outside anything we can comprehend. We need to shrink it by a lot before we can begin to understand it.

The error I made in my math earlier was that I for some reason divided 1,048,576 by 1,024 and decided that the megabit key would be 2^1,024 times harder to crack. What I actually should have done is subtracted 1,024 from 1,048,576, and come up with a difficulty factor of 2^1,047,552. This number is so big that I can't even think about it, or my head will explode.

In fact, a 1,048,576 bit key is so ridiculously huge, so absurdly bigger than it needs to be to completely stymie brute force attack, that I suspect there's something else at work here. That key is part of the encryption at a fundamental level, and it needs to be so big not to prevent brute-force attack, but to prevent a more classical cryptographic analysis of the ciphertext. I bet that with smaller keys, patterns emerge in the encrypted text that can be analyzed.

(If you think about it, 1,048,576 bits is big enough to encrypt a 128K document using the key as a one-time pad. That sort of encryption really is unbreakable, even in theory.)
 

mpevah2

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<<
It's virtually impossible to describe just how long 10^295 years is, because you can divide it by enormously large numbers and still be left with an indescribably long amount of time. Our universe is about 10^10 years old, which means that 10^295 years is 10^285 times longer. Our universe contains about 10^80 atoms. If every single atom in the universe were a computer cluster a billion times more powerful than the one described above, and if every one of those atomic computer clusters had been running the entire life of the universe, they would by now have chugged through less than 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000...
000000000000000000000000000000000001% (194 decimal places, give or take) of the possible keys. Still incomprehensible. If every single one of those atoms were actually a tiny 10^80 atom universe, and if every one of those universes consisted of nothing but computers a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion times more powerful than the one described above, and if they ran over the lifetime of a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion universes, they would plow through about 1/100,000,000,000th of the possible keys.

If the keys were randomly distributed, that incomprehensibly large number of computers running over that incomprehensibly large time would have about as much chance of finding the key as you've got of having red come up 37 times in a row on a roulette wheel. Feeling lucky?

If they're really using a 1,048,576-bit key, I think they're safe to say they're impervious to brute-force attack.

Disclaimer: My math might be a bit off here... but only by a few billion billion billion years, give or take
>>



There have to be more than 10^80 atoms in the universe. I know 2 people who must occupy 10^65 atomes each....
 

Iceyburnz

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Feb 21, 2001
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We need the little kid from Mercury Rising..

"U put our super secret code on a website for a free ferrarri...I dont ever remember authorizing this...."

Hahahahaa
 

Ben50

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Anybody have a quantum computer handy so we can find this things instantaneously?
 
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