Cracker Barrel Fires 73-Year-Old Vet Who Gave Muffin to Needy Man

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angminas

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Cracker Barrel is fucked because they did the right thing and fired and employee who wouldn't stop giving away their product after 4 warnings. All the outrage over this is a perfect example of how the average American has zero critical thinking skills. We are a country of entitled idiots who can't even recognize that employees have to follow the rules to keep their job.

So the guy is old and a vet, how does that give him the right to give away his employer's property? I respect and thank all veterans for their service, but that doesn't automatically make them good people. Some vets I have personally met are despicable pieces of shit.

Anyway, how much does a muffin cost? If the old guy fells that strongly about feeding the homeless, does he buy food with his own money for them or just give them what he takes from his employer?

The real outrage should be that all the idiots sharing their outrage on social media also have the right to vote and help decide the fate of this country. That's damn scary and the reason this country is so fucked.

Pretty much.
 

Exophase

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Next time someone asks for money at the gas station take them into the station shop and hand them a candy bar off the counter. When the police apprehend you tell them it's a matter of morality. Be sure to call Fox News.
 

angminas

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I wonder how many of the people who are pissed at Cracker Barrel would have no problem if I reached into their purses or cars to get money to give to the homeless.

I also wonder how many of them have given anything to the homeless lately.
 

smackababy

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Next time someone asks for money at the gas station take them into the station shop and hand them a candy bar off the counter. When the police apprehend you tell them it's a matter of morality. Be sure to call Fox News.

I may not be old, but I am a vet, so there would be public outrage at the 'abuse' I would suffer.
 

Exophase

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I didn't see anyone mention this, but I think this guy is extra full of himself for taking this story to the news (or letting it be taken to the news if it was someone he told). This isn't going to affect any kind of positive change, it's just riling up a bunch of people to vindicate your wrongful behavior and punish someone you want to get back.
 

poofyhairguy

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What I don't get is this concept that we all "owe" vets a little extra.

I mean, we all appreciate you going and risking your life to protect oil company profits (if Iraq Wars), but this isn't the Vietnam Era with a draft. We have an all-volunteer military, and people are obviously compensated enough to join or they wouldn't do it.

And I am a fan of that, I think the military is a great way to move up the societal ladder if you started on rock bottom (like momma hits crack rocks bottom). I just don't think the world owes these vets anything they want on top of the tens of thousands of dollars in direct compensation, medical benefits, tuition, etc. already given.
 

Exophase

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I mean, we all appreciate you going and risking your life to protect oil company profits (if Iraq Wars), but this isn't the Vietnam Era with a draft. We have an all-volunteer military, and people are obviously compensated enough to join or they wouldn't do it.

Well, to be fair, he is a veteran of the Vietnam war, so there's a pretty good chance he was drafted.

Still, this sort of thing shouldn't grant people special treatment in their workplace. If you want to show your appreciation there are plenty of ways you can do it that aren't unfair to other people. I don't expect for a minute that people would be bringing up someone's wrongful incarceration in defense of this treatment.
 

smackababy

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What I don't get is this concept that we all "owe" vets a little extra.

I mean, we all appreciate you going and risking your life to protect oil company profits (if Iraq Wars), but this isn't the Vietnam Era with a draft. We have an all-volunteer military, and people are obviously compensated enough to join or they wouldn't do it.

And I am a fan of that, I think the military is a great way to move up the societal ladder if you started on rock bottom (like momma hits crack rocks bottom). I just don't think the world owes these vets anything they want on top of the tens of thousands of dollars in direct compensation, medical benefits, tuition, etc. already given.

The fact that it is an all-volunteer military and we are in an active engagement is a lot more meaningful than conscription. Sure, you might not agree with the war, but if these people didn't volunteer, what do you think happens? Do we not fight in these conflicts? Ha! No, either you or your children are drafted. At the very least, thank the veterans for taking your spot. If you really think the vets get such great benefits, you're kidding yourself. As a software developer in the military, I was making $36k a year, and I damn sure wasn't enjoying 40 hour work weeks.

I will say that as a vet, I don't think I am owed a damn thing. I really don't even care if people appreciate it. Just don't come bitching to me when we have to reinstate the draft because nobody is volunteering anymore.

I also am of the opinion 2 years mandatory service would do a world of good for the youth. That will help curb all that entitlement and give some discipline to a generation that certainly needs it.
 

JulesMaximus

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He'll probably just go back on unemployment now which was probably what he wanted all along anyway.
 

ultimatebob

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What does his vet status have to do with anything?

It's a Fox News piece. The fact that he's a vet makes the story score extra points with the conservatives that they're trying to keep entertained between Obama bashing sessions

It would have scored even higher if he was a concealed carry gun owner as well!
 

poofyhairguy

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The fact that it is an all-volunteer military and we are in an active engagement is a lot more meaningful than conscription. Sure, you might not agree with the war, but if these people didn't volunteer, what do you think happens? Do we not fight in these conflicts? Ha! No, either you or your children are drafted. At the very least, thank the veterans for taking your spot.

Maybe up to a point. I personally believe if we had a draft today America WOULD get in fewer conflicts because then there would be a greater political persuasion to avoid fighting for that reason.

It has been shown time and time again that modern politicians want to avoid making hard choices, whether that is death panels, social security reform or immigration reform. If the "children" of America were stolen away and forced into conflicts then thanks to the rise of social media there would be a huge backlash. Any fighting outside of an invasion of our shores would lack political support and helicopter parents would dismantle the government to keep their special snowflake out of the action.

It would kinda cut our nuts off, I will admit that.

If you really think the vets get such great benefits, you're kidding yourself. As a software developer in the military, I was making $36k a year, and I damn sure wasn't enjoying 40 hour work weeks.

Sure a person who is a skilled laborer can do better than the military. In my experience with military doctors it seems those who make a career out of it are simply too untalented or unmotivated to succeed in the private arena.

But take someone from Detroit whose daddy and granddaddy made a living making cars at a factory that no longer exists with no hopes for a college scholarship or any way to pay for college. For them the military offers a pretty good deal.
 

Brian Stirling

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It's a Fox News piece. The fact that he's a vet makes the story score extra points with the conservatives that they're trying to keep entertained between Obama bashing sessions

It would have scored even higher if he was a concealed carry gun owner as well!

It's a Fox News pieces being dished out like Coolaid to a receptive audience of brain dead followers. You can almost see the glazed look on the faces of there viewers as they swallow it hook, line and sinker...

Not that I'm all that pleased with what CNN has become...


Brian
 

MongGrel

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Nothing much to see here.




Omar Khayyam > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”



― Omar Khayyam


Bit scarey how things apply to life sometimes.


 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I'm a long time "foodie" and, this is total bs. All the policy princesses who think he should have been fired can kiss my ass. Policies have never once made a buck or served a customer. People do that. Samuel Clemens made a statement to the effect of "people who follow regulations and rules without fail are even stupider than those who break them at every opportunity. " I expect my employees to use their heads and experience to make the right decision. Policy is a guideline, nothing more.
 

Rakehellion

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I'm a long time "foodie" and, this is total bs. All the policy princesses who think he should have been fired can kiss my ass. Policies have never once made a buck or served a customer. People do that. Samuel Clemens made a statement to the effect of "people who follow regulations and rules without fail are even stupider than those who break them at every opportunity. " I expect my employees to use their heads and experience to make the right decision. Policy is a guideline, nothing more.

They let him break the rules 4 times. There are plenty of more trustworthy people who can do his job.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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They let him break the rules 4 times. There are plenty of more trustworthy people who can do his job.

Putting policy ahead of people is exactly why the U.S. is fucked right now. You can NOT run a service based company by negative feedback. If you do, it guarantees you will go broke slowly.
 

Rakehellion

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Putting policy ahead of people is exactly why the U.S. is fucked right now. You can NOT run a service based company by negative feedback. If you do, it guarantees you will go broke slowly.

So they should let him give away hundreds of muffins? He isn't the first person to be fired for theft and won't be the last.

If he wants to give away things, he can buy them with his own money. I'd have fired him too for arrogance.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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So they should let him give away hundreds of muffins? He isn't the first person to be fired for theft and won't be the last.

If he wants to give away things, he can buy them with his own money. I'd have fired him too for arrogance.

You're trying too hard. "Hundreds " of muffins not found.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Nice selective reply. :thumbsup:

When should he be fired? The tenth muffin? The fiftieth? Can he give away muffins only to homeless people or just anyone who's in a rush?

You've left out the part about expecting employees to use their heads and experience. I guarantee that the employee in question has more than you. Policy is for those who need training wheels.
 

Rakehellion

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You've left out the part about expecting employees to use their heads and experience. I guarantee that the employee in question has more than you. Policy is for those who need training wheels.

I don't give a fuck about policy and if he had so much experience he'd be running the joint. 73 years old or 17, you don't fuck with my business. I'm in charge, so I decide who gives away muffins, bar none.

He isn't the first person to be fired for theft and won't be the last, so this "negative press" shit is overdone.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I don't give a fuck about policy and if he had so much experience he'd be running the joint. 73 years old or 17, you don't fuck with my business. I'm in charge, so I decide who gives away muffins, bar none.

He isn't the first person to be fired for theft and won't be the last, no this "negative press" shit is overdone.

Do us all a favor and stay out of the food business. You don't understand it. You also don't understand why people would work at a job and not want to be the owner or, person in charge. A word of advice in the unlikely event you do wind up owning a company. You'll avoid high turnover and make better profits if you don't try to control every detail. Your employees make your company a success or failure, not you.
 
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