Cracker Barrel Fires 73-Year-Old Vet Who Gave Muffin to Needy Man

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poofyhairguy

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It is fucking depressing how cowed people are that they think that they need to defend a corporation over the loss OF A FUCKIN MUFFIN!!
The issue is that homeless people talk, and next shift he could of had a line of them waiting for muffins. A bunch of homeless hanging around runs off paying customers.
 

Veliko

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The issue is that homeless people talk, and next shift he could of had a line of them waiting for muffins. A bunch of homeless hanging around runs off paying customers.

Ah, the smell of bullshit just gets stronger and stronger!
 

kaerflog

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Its amazing how many people are defending this old man.
When I first click on this thread I thought firing a him was pretty low too but when I found out he was told to stop 4 times already theres no excuse.
Seriously, when you are told to stop giving away stuff, STOP. Its not your restaurant.
 

Exophase

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How is it different? Well, you've already said how it's different in your question - it's bigger.

If I take a pen home from work no-one really gives a shit. If I take an entire crate home with me then I may well get fired.

But you don't know how many times he's been doing it or how many times he'd continue to do it. What if he made a habit of giving to this same person all the time, or other people? Why would he not? It could add up to a lot of stuff he wasn't supposed to give out.

If this were a single isolated incident and he promised not to do it again that'd be one thing. But it wasn't, he did stuff like this before and he defended it as being the moral obligation of the company so I don't see why he wouldn't keep doing it.
 

Brian Stirling

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Hey, this is all about Conner starting another of these threads that is guaranteed to start a flame war. And, before this one fades away I'm sure he'll start another one.

This isn't P&N but I guess that doesn't matter anymore, when you can come to a new place that isn't already inundated with political BS and can then convert that place into a hotbed of political nonsense -- mission accomplished!

This tactic of turning everything into politics works and it works well. We brought the worlds most sophisticated weapons to Iraq and clobbered the forces we faced but they continued to spew there hate and are now stronger than ever -- they're winning.

If only this tactic was actually good for us....


Brian
 

Veliko

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But you don't know how many times he's been doing it or how many times he'd continue to do it. What if he made a habit of giving to this same person all the time, or other people? Why would he not? It could add up to a lot of stuff he wasn't supposed to give out.

If this were a single isolated incident and he promised not to do it again that'd be one thing. But it wasn't, he did stuff like this before and he defended it as being the moral obligation of the company so I don't see why he wouldn't keep doing it.

We don't know how many times he's done it, no, yet that doesn't stop you and others from wildly speculating that he'll be bringing down the moral fibre of the country if he does it again.
 

angminas

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It's astonishing how many posters are whipping themselves up into a frenzy about this. The notion that restaurants are on the brink of financial collapse due to food being given away and that bankruptcy is only being held at bay thanks to the valiant efforts of control freak managers blindly sticking to each and every rule is absurd.

Source: 18 years in the restaurant business, including 3 in management.

Your move.
 

angminas

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Sorry, am I supposed to be impressed by this statement?

Not if you're stupid enough to talk out your ass about things you clearly don't understand. But I thought I'd give you a chance to look in the mirror and say to yourself, "Self, you're a dumbass", rather than having people who know what they're talking about do it for you.

However, since you didn't take me up on the offer...*ahem*...you're a dumbass.
 

Veliko

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So you're seriously going to claim that restaurants across the nation are on the brink of collapse due to the actions of employees like those in the news story?

And your trump card against anyone who cares to disagree is "I was a restaurant manager".
 

Rakehellion

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If this were a single isolated incident and he promised not to do it again that'd be one thing. But it wasn't, he did stuff like this before and he defended it as being the moral obligation of the company so I don't see why he wouldn't keep doing it.

Exactly. He's just an uptight asshole with a sense of entitlement.
 

surfsatwerk

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So you're seriously going to claim that restaurants across the nation are on the brink of collapse due to the actions of employees like those in the news story?

And your trump card against anyone who cares to disagree is "I was a restaurant manager".

I would say the trump card is people defending employee theft are stupid.
 

angminas

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So you're seriously going to claim that restaurants across the nation are on the brink of collapse due to the actions of employees like those in the news story?

And your trump card against anyone who cares to disagree is "I was a restaurant manager".

No, they WOULD collapse very, very quickly if people who did stupid shit like that didn't get fired. Which keeps other people from doing it, so the store can stay open. It's not about one muffin, it's about a million muffins.

Nobody gives an eighth of a fuck whether you agree. Your opinion is meaningless, because it's simply a matter of mathematics. Everything used or sold in a restaurant costs money (usually far more than the uninitiated would expect). If not enough food is sold compared to how much is bought, the restaurant closes. It's that fucking simple. And if you don't think it can get out of hand in a biiiiiig hurry, you've never done the numbers in a restaurant, and you should be doing more listening than talking.
 

Veliko

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No, they WOULD collapse very, very quickly if people who did stupid shit like that didn't get fired. Which keeps other people from doing it, so the store can stay open. It's not about one muffin, it's about a million muffins.

Nobody gives an eighth of a fuck whether you agree. Your opinion is meaningless, because it's simply a matter of mathematics. Everything used or sold in a restaurant costs money (usually far more than the uninitiated would expect). If not enough food is sold compared to how much is bought, the restaurant closes. It's that fucking simple. And if you don't think it can get out of hand in a biiiiiig hurry, you've never done the numbers in a restaurant, and you should be doing more listening than talking.

I see we're back to baseless, angry scare mongering again.
 

BoberFett

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So you're seriously going to claim that restaurants across the nation are on the brink of collapse due to the actions of employees like those in the news story?

And your trump card against anyone who cares to disagree is "I was a restaurant manager".

You do realize that restaurants are an extremely tough business and go under all the time, don't you?

Meh, this Veliko asshole spouts his ignorant opinion all over this forum. It's not surprising it continue in this thread.
 

Veliko

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You do realize that restaurants are an extremely tough business and go under all the time, don't you?

And how many of those have gone under because some of their staff gave away the occasional muffin...?
 

angminas

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I see we're back to baseless, angry scare mongering again.

Let's talk major chain pizza.

Ingredients: $2-$6 a pound, usually more than what you'd pay at Walmart. Bulk discount? LOL. You're a captive audience, so they squeeze you for every cent. Same applies to Coke.

Makelines: $5k-$10k each.

Ovens: $10k-$25k each. $25 a day each to run them. (Two ovens = $1500 a month.) Have fun finding parts for the $10k ones...they're 30 years old.

Computers and shitty software with more bugs than a barnyard: $30k+

Rent and utilities: thousands of dollars a month. You have to password lock the thermostats so Billy Bob doesn't turn the AC down to 68 on his shifts.

High quality electronic scale for portion control: $180

Machine to spread cheese correctly: $700

Mop bucket that won't break in a month: $100

Pizza cutter: $23

Cash shortage if you're not careful: hundreds of dollars a month

Royalty fees: >10%

Labor: +/- 20% of gross

Food: +/- 30% of gross

Profit: +/- 5% IF the store is well run; many stores lose money and close

It's like juggling steaks while moonwalking through a pack of rabid dogs. All day, every day.

My trump card is I know what I'm talking about. You can disbelieve it if you want...but, as we've established, that would make you a dumbass. Might as well disbelieve gravity.
 

Veliko

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That's a nice list but I don't see what it's got to do with the news story or your continued insistence that restaurants are closing down because their staff are handing out free muffins all the time.
 

poofyhairguy

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Ah, the smell of bullshit just gets stronger and stronger!

The only bullshit is that this guy thought it was a good idea to go to the press with this.

If I am a future employer I will associate that guy with theft and he won't even get an interview from me.
 

Veliko

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The only bullshit is that this guy thought it was a good idea to go to the press with this.

If I am a future employer I will associate that guy with theft and he won't even get an interview from me.

He's 73 so I don't think he's likely to be wanting to climb the corporate ladder.
 

angminas

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That's a nice list but I don't see what it's got to do with the news story or your continued insistence that restaurants are closing down because their staff are handing out free muffins all the time.



i'm out
 

pcgeek11

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That's a nice list but I don't see what it's got to do with the news story or your continued insistence that restaurants are closing down because their staff are handing out free muffins all the time.

Wow! You really are a dumbass.
 

Veliko

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That list was nothing more than a long-winded way of saying that restaurants have it tough, a point that I haven't disagreed with.

So no, I'm not a dumbass, unlike you who seems to be impressed by someone's ability to regurgitate inane details.
 

BoberFett

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I'm still waiting to find out what your charitable contributions are. And I'm talking about what you give away of your own, not other people's belongings that you give away.
 
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